Why is Ohana so behind the times?

Spiritual_Chaos

Has anyone asked Eddie about this? Visiting this last fall and having a greeeeeeeeeeat time seeing Neil Young, I was very surprised by how dreadfully meat-focused the festival was. Barely anything vegetarian to choose from at all. It's easy to stand on stage and talking about whales and the ocean and showing a video about the planet with Pearl Jam music as the soundtrack, but Eddie and the festival doesn't walk the talk at all. It was quite a disgraceful sight. 

Compare this to Sweden's most famous/mainstream music festival Way out West (where Neil Young also has cancelled a gig - so let's refer to it as a sister festival):

The festival is vegetarian and has been completely meat free and largely dairy free since 2012.

During 2019 year’s festival, the carbon footprint from an average meal was 0,38 kg CO2e, which is below WWF’s One Planet Plate recommendation of 0,5 kg CO2e. We also CO2e marked the menus at the festival so you could easily make a decision when you wanted to eat and drink. The meat and dairy industry accounts for 14,5% of the greenhouse gas emissions globally*, which exceeds the emissions from the transport sector (cars, boats, trains, planes, others). By becoming vegetarian we lowered our emissions by 40% – and 15% of the festival’s visitors say they eat more veggie food after they’ve been to Way Out West. Yay!

TLDR: Way out West Festival which is Sweden's most mainstream music festival and brings 70.000 people in, is all vegetarian.


Even "Sweden Rock" with 170.000 of these types of people have plenty of vegan and vegetarian options:







And today this popped up in my feed:

And where does this environmental-focused Eddie stand with his festival? A bunch of basic food trucks with pretty much nothing vegetarian and with seemingly no pro-active take on what is being served at the festival. because being pro-active about the planet means vegetarian options.

Let's all collectively just say: Yuck.

Ukuleddie Vegger

I stand behind this. 

Shaindli1

Especially since 1992 Ed was against animal cruelty.

THEBIBLEISTEN

THEBIBLEISTEN

Shocker, this Chaos guy complaining again. That’s all you do. How much free time do you have? 

Tim Simmons

Well, Sweden is more Vegetarian (10%) than the US (4%). So thats probably why. A US festival selling more animal based products is just catering to the market's demands.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/510038/identify-vegetarian-vegan.aspx
https://animalequality.org/news/2014/04/07/10-of-the-swedish-population-is-now-meat-free/

Falling Down

I flew 3500 miles to Ohana in 2021. Guess my carbon footprint was already bad enough that a plant based sandwich wouldn’t have changed much… Do the Swedish festivals ban entrance those that travel to Goteborg by plane? 

Ohana does so much for the local community that I’m not sure it needs to change much at this point. Best thing for the environment would be to cancel the event. 

tylermoore

It’s simple. What sells the most? If people bought more, there’d be more veggie/vegan options. 

You’re going to a music festival in a beach. Idk how environmentally friendly any of that is. Humans next to oceans usually aren’t a good mix when it comes to pollution 

Ryan

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Shocker, this Chaos guy complaining again. That’s all you do. How much free time do you have? 

The only thing surprising is that his post didn’t have a KISS reference.

Tim Simmons

Or Friday the 13th. Or Nightmare on Elm Street. Or Terminator 2.

pjl44

One of Way Out West Fest's partner sponsors is Pepsi lol

pjl44

Corn syrup confirmed vegan though

THEBIBLEISTEN

Fun fact: the top Swedish vegetable is the Rutabaga. Maybe sneak a bag of those in with you . Just remember, watch out for the lack of street lights as you run home. 

JeBurkhardt

An entirely vegan menu at an American festival like the one in Sweden would be a tough sell, but there should be more options. I would bet that it wouldn't be too difficult to locate a few vegan only food trucks or vendors in Southern California. It could also be that the vegan businesses have tried it before, didn't get the amount of business that they needed to be profitable and decided not to do it again.  

Indifference

Only food complaint at Ohana is the lines.

David.Narwhal

While I personally don't mind the options that were available, I was hoping there would be more vegan/vegetarian options to try as that's my preference these days and was very surprised there were not many presented given some of the points OP is making.

This was my first time at Ohana so I'm not sure if this is normal or the last festival was an exception. 

RatherStarved

Price of food and lines are a bigger issue than selection.  

JeBurkhardt

RatherStarved said:

Price of food and lines are a bigger issue than selection.  

I went in 2021 and the alcohol prices were pretty crazy as well. 

mace1229

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Barrett's Lemonade sounds like probably vegan.

on2legs

Will no one speak for the plants and vegetables?  No one?!??

Loujoe

Truth. ^oddly agree. I'm an avid gardener and no kidding feel a little bad to cut lettuce and pull up roots. To pick and eat the fruit or vegetable as intended is not a big deal. 

I eat meat and kind of starting to feel bad. It just tastes so good.

Just respect it all and the meat will have the last laugh as my arteries clog up.

Love you all.

Plan to eat a couple hot dogs for lunch. There's no lettuce or vegetables harmed there.
Although the place I go hits it with a pickle and onions. And might have fries. Oh well. Fml

mcgruff10

Loujoe said:

Truth. ^oddly agree. I'm an avid gardener and no kidding feel a little bad to cut lettuce and pull up roots. To pick and eat the fruit or vegetable as intended is not a big deal. 

I eat meat and kind of starting to feel bad. It just tastes so good.

Just respect it all and the meat will have the last laugh as my arteries clog up.

Love you all.

Plan to eat a couple hot dogs for lunch. There's no lettuce or vegetables harmed there.
Although the place I go hits it with a pickle and onions. And might have fries. Oh well. Fml

heading to rutt's hut for a ripper?

ComeToTX

JeBurkhardt said:

RatherStarved said:

Price of food and lines are a bigger issue than selection.  

I went in 2021 and the alcohol prices were pretty crazy as well. 

bring in your own and you only have to buy a couple of mixers.

Loujoe

mcgruff10 said:

Loujoe said:

Truth. ^oddly agree. I'm an avid gardener and no kidding feel a little bad to cut lettuce and pull up roots. To pick and eat the fruit or vegetable as intended is not a big deal. 

I eat meat and kind of starting to feel bad. It just tastes so good.

Just respect it all and the meat will have the last laugh as my arteries clog up.

Love you all.

Plan to eat a couple hot dogs for lunch. There's no lettuce or vegetables harmed there.
Although the place I go hits it with a pickle and onions. And might have fries. Oh well. Fml

heading to rutt's hut for a ripper?

Hot Dog Johnny's perhaps
Rutts is a little far for me now

mcgruff10

Loujoe said:

mcgruff10 said:

Loujoe said:

Truth. ^oddly agree. I'm an avid gardener and no kidding feel a little bad to cut lettuce and pull up roots. To pick and eat the fruit or vegetable as intended is not a big deal. 

I eat meat and kind of starting to feel bad. It just tastes so good.

Just respect it all and the meat will have the last laugh as my arteries clog up.

Love you all.

Plan to eat a couple hot dogs for lunch. There's no lettuce or vegetables harmed there.
Although the place I go hits it with a pickle and onions. And might have fries. Oh well. Fml

heading to rutt's hut for a ripper?

Hot Dog Johnny's perhaps
Rutts is a little far for me now

I used to go there all the time as a kid!  That's a nice stretch of water behind there; I always wanted to fish it.  Love the Pequest.

THEBIBLEISTEN

You’re not grunge unless you rock out with a bag of carrots in your back pocket. 

lexicondevil

If Ohana was vegan you'd have a lot of broke vendors. More choices would be great, but then you also need nut-free and gluten-free options. Pleasing everyone can be tough. You can read any the threads on this board and see that in a minute.

Abe Froman

“Dreadfully meat focused”  😂😂😂😂😂

bootlegger10

I like steak.  I like chicken.  I like pork.  I like fish.  I like eggs.   

Time is short, I have an appointment at noon, at noon in hell.  

dmbolp

Have been 3 times; never eaten anything there.  Heck, 500+ concerts and I can't think of ever eating at one, unless a VIP situation

THEBIBLEISTEN

The OP just likes to complain and nitpick every little thing he can about pretty much everything . He’s never happy and needs to voice it in every thread he can. It’s exhausting. Maybe it’s time to move on. Maybe he can start his own band and start his own festival and make it perfect for himself. Glass half full should be his band name.