#47 President Donald Trump

mickeyrat

DE4173 said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂 

Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016). 

I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).

Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?

hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.

Very.

The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?

yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans. 

imo she and walz left it all on the field

nothing to be ashamed of imo.

mickeyrat

https://www.threads.net/@theartcandee/post/DG6BJF3zXQL?xmt=AQGzM537nYwsxR_NpAQMoc2xVD3Pj6INDB1oywPPakIC8A

Did Donald Trump just admit talking to Putin about invading Ukraine before it happened?

JFC.

mickeyrat

https://www.threads.net/@rebcam2000/post/DG6Bo5ov1mD?xmt=AQGz-uhxVQUnU6SWv17_XivRhCPG_h5FcZ8nGJqQ_q9xyA

You might have seen the White House rebuttal regarding Trump's assertion that grants were spent on transgender mice. They put up a page on their website citing the grants. Well, I'm retired and have the time, so I looked up each grant on the usa spending website.
Here are the findings. (1/10)

mickeyrat

Social Security has contracts with every state that allow parents to register their newborns for Social Security cards at the hospital.

They also contract with states to find out when people die.

A week ago, the Trump Admin canceled both contracts with one state — Maine.

mickeyrat

Sen. chrismurphyct publishes a timeline of Trump's corruption.

mickeyrat

video...

https://www.threads.net/@factpostnews/post/DG6YWMbvKmT?xmt=AQGzhJWDGB7SH7vb4YkG9FLPVjNXIcQwL4n1bDDYKF-apQ

Trump when asked a question he doesn't like: "You're just a troublemaker, and you're not supposed to be asking that question"

Spiritual_Chaos

brianlux

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The US is a threat to the world (and obviously very much to Ukraine and Canada). And can not be trusted, in any way whatsoever. We all should have known when they didn't even have humane health care for it's citizens. What kind of a country doesn't have that? Obviously one that also can give this kind of power to one crazy man. One Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/world/canada/trump-trudeau-canada-51st-state.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2E4.Q8KL.0-WlJvakxSnC&smid=url-share

"The US is a threat to the world".  Your last post on this thread said that as well. 

That reminds me of when Russia was a major enemy of the U.S. and you'd hear Americans all the time say things like "You can't trust those commies",  "Kill the commies," etc.  All kinds of hatred for those people like they were all the same.  I met some Russian interpreters from Moscow when the Soviet Union collapsed and they were nothing at all like what the stereotypical beliefs were about those people.  I stayed up all night talking to them and they were amazing and good souls.

We're not all Trump.

Spiritual_Chaos

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The US is a threat to the world (and obviously very much to Ukraine and Canada). And can not be trusted, in any way whatsoever. We all should have known when they didn't even have humane health care for it's citizens. What kind of a country doesn't have that? Obviously one that also can give this kind of power to one crazy man. One Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/world/canada/trump-trudeau-canada-51st-state.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2E4.Q8KL.0-WlJvakxSnC&smid=url-share

"The US is a threat to the world".  Your last post on this thread said that as well. 

That reminds me of when Russia was a major enemy of the U.S. and you'd hear Americans all the time say things like "You can't trust those commies",  "Kill the commies," etc.  All kinds of hatred for those people like they were all the same.  I met some Russian interpreters from Moscow when the Soviet Union collapsed and they were nothing at all like what the stereotypical beliefs were about those people.  I stayed up all night talking to them and they were amazing and good souls.

We're not all Trump.

Weird when Norm McDonald has that bit about Germany starting a war against the whole world, that he didn’t specify when mentioning Germany that he didn’t ment every person in Germany starting a war against the whole world. 

Made it really hard for me to understand what he was saying. Why would anyone use the name of the country like that without specifying that not every baker, farmer and fussball player in Germany started the war?

Or when they say ”Sweden has won this years eurovision song contest”. I didn’t personally win? Many of us didn’t? When ABBA won in -76 it was them four and their crew.  Why doesn’t they specify that a lot of people in Sweden aren’t ABBA and should be excluded?

It’s so hard to understand. 

And why are people in the Ukraine thread allowed to say ”Russia started the war” or ”Russia is the aggressor”. DO THEY REALLY MEAN EVERY RUSSIAN CITIZEN. STARTED THE WAR. 


So no Brian. I wouldn’t argue that you as an individual is a threat to the whole world. I’m pretty sure you are removed from the sentiment that the US is a threat to the world. 

brianlux

Spiritual_Chaos said:

brianlux said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The US is a threat to the world (and obviously very much to Ukraine and Canada). And can not be trusted, in any way whatsoever. We all should have known when they didn't even have humane health care for it's citizens. What kind of a country doesn't have that? Obviously one that also can give this kind of power to one crazy man. One Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/world/canada/trump-trudeau-canada-51st-state.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2E4.Q8KL.0-WlJvakxSnC&smid=url-share

"The US is a threat to the world".  Your last post on this thread said that as well. 

That reminds me of when Russia was a major enemy of the U.S. and you'd hear Americans all the time say things like "You can't trust those commies",  "Kill the commies," etc.  All kinds of hatred for those people like they were all the same.  I met some Russian interpreters from Moscow when the Soviet Union collapsed and they were nothing at all like what the stereotypical beliefs were about those people.  I stayed up all night talking to them and they were amazing and good souls.

We're not all Trump.

Weird when Norm McDonald has that bit about Germany starting a war against the whole world, that he didn’t specify when mentioning Germany that he didn’t ment every person in Germany starting a war against the whole world. 

Made it really hard for me to understand what he was saying. Why would anyone use the name of the country like that without specifying that not every baker, farmer and fussball player in Germany started the war?

Or when they say ”Sweden has won this years eurovision song contest”. I didn’t personally win? Many of us didn’t? When ABBA won in -76 it was them four and their crew.  Why doesn’t they specify that a lot of people in Sweden aren’t ABBA and should be excluded?

It’s so hard to understand. 

And why are people in the Ukraine thread allowed to say ”Russia started the war” or ”Russia is the aggressor”. DO THEY REALLY MEAN EVERY RUSSIAN CITIZEN. STARTED THE WAR. 


So no Brian. I wouldn’t argue that you as an individual is a threat to the whole world. I’m pretty sure you are removed from the sentiment that the US is a threat to the world. 

Good points and clarification, thanks!

If I sounded defensive, it's at least in part because I am ashamed that so many here in the U.S. do side with the current people in power who are a threat.  I wish there was some way those of us who are not in favor of that threat could tell the rest of the world how we feel.   I recently bought an LP that came from France (a French pressing of Roxy Music's Avalon) and I actually thought about telling the seller, "Oh by the way, not all of us here in the U.S. are horrible people, and many of us admire the European stance against tyranny!"  But I stuck with business because I don't know the seller. 

PJ_Soul

Brian, I'm pretty sure literally everyone knows there are a lot of Americans who are againt the Trump administration. The whole world is basically force-fed its entire crazy election campaign drama for 2 our of every 4 years of our lives, lol.

josevolution

https://www.military.com/history/medal-of-honor-recipient-erased-pentagons-dei-purge.html?amp

What a god damn shame to be trying to erase history! This petulant prick is all about retribution his approval ratings are in the dumps he knows most of the world hates him so it’s all about getting back at people 

The Juggler

mickeyrat said:

Sen. chrismurphyct publishes a timeline of Trump's corruption.

His speech on this was great. You do not need to search for corruption. It is right out in the open. Nobody seems to care.

The Juggler

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂 

Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016). 

I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).

Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?

hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.

Very.

The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?

yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans. 

imo she and walz left it all on the field

nothing to be ashamed of imo.

The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.

mickeyrat

The Juggler said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂 

Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016). 

I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).

Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?

hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.

Very.

The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?

yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans. 

imo she and walz left it all on the field

nothing to be ashamed of imo.

The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.

and was on the ticket before he dropped out

Gern Blansten

The Juggler said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂 

Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016). 

I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).

Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?

hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.

Very.

The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?

yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans. 

imo she and walz left it all on the field

nothing to be ashamed of imo.

The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.

yep...given the situation it was the best move

The Juggler

mickeyrat said:

The Juggler said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂 

Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016). 

I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).

Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?

hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.

Very.

The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?

yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans. 

imo she and walz left it all on the field

nothing to be ashamed of imo.

The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.

and was on the ticket before he dropped out

So stupid. It was a close election that could have gone either way. Nobody got destroyed. 

brianlux

PJ_Soul said:

Brian, I'm pretty sure literally everyone knows there are a lot of Americans who are againt the Trump administration. The whole world is basically force-fed its entire crazy election campaign drama for 2 our of every 4 years of our lives, lol.

Which I'm guessing was also a bit confounding considering the rest of the world compresses their election process to a much shorter time.  If the U.S. can generally be criticized as a whole for something, it is that we have a political system has become dysfunctional and that craves attention.

DE4173

The Juggler said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂 

Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016). 

I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).

Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?

hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.

Very.

The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?

yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans. 

imo she and walz left it all on the field

nothing to be ashamed of imo.

The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.

My point is for President in 2020 there were several candidates that Democrats preferred to then Senator Harris for whatever reasons, so when it came to the presidential general election in 2024, it shouldn't be a surprise that she wasn't the preferred candidate for the same and additional reasons.

The Juggler

DE4173 said:

The Juggler said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

mickeyrat said:

DE4173 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Harris was the sitting VP. Come on. You have to acknowledge that obviously changes things. Maybe they should have let Hillary run again? 😂 

Senator Hillary Clinton (pre-emails and additional actions/inactions, etc that hurt her candidacy in 2016) lost the Dem primary in 2008 because of other reasons, so it's not outside the realm of possibility of her losing other elections (2016). 

I don't recall what Senator Kamala Harris's popularity was in 2020 (when she didn't have one electoral vote), so it's not outside the realm of possibility that she would lose other elections (2024).

Vice President Harris having four years of experience as VP definitely made a positive difference for her as a candidate in 2024. I don't know how she would've fared in an open primary, but if she lost, by lack of votes by Dems, would it be okay because the Dems said no thanks, but in a general election her loss is not okay?

hard to have any delegates when you drop out before Iowa.

Very.

The support was not there for her from the Democrat party and Democrat voters in that primary and that's okay, but losing in a general election is not okay because of other factors?

yes, top of ticket 100 days out. a county or two in Pa and Maricopa Az are conducting an inquiry in the counting process as there were some glitches at that critical time. Fuckstick made certain statements suggesting shenanigans. 

imo she and walz left it all on the field

nothing to be ashamed of imo.

The primary thing is so funny to me. I love how these people just gloss over the fact that she was on the ticket in 2020 when they won the election.

My point is for President in 2020 there were several candidates that Democrats preferred to then Senator Harris for whatever reasons, so when it came to the presidential general election in 2024, it shouldn't be a surprise that she wasn't the preferred candidate for the same and additional reasons.

Okay. Well my point is this: so fucking what? 81 million people then voted for her and Biden in the general. This is also noteworthy because Biden was the oldest candidate at the time so a lot of them were under the assumption she'd likely be on the ticket in 2024. 

In '08 and a few times prior Democrats also preferred someone else to Joe Biden, but then also voted for him to win the 2020 election. 

Before winning in '88 Republicans preferred someone else other than George HW Bush. He then went on to become president.

Before winning in '80 Republicans preferred someone else other than Ronald Regan. He then went on to become president. 




Your point would be valid if context and history did not exist.