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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,791
    edited March 3
    tbergs said:
    hunterh75 said:

    Napolean enjoying billions of US tax dollar money.  He doesn't have dirt on Trump like he does Biden's family ties to Ukraine and use that to extort our money.  Napolean got a smack down Oval Office style. 
    With this line of thinking then surely you must be wondering what dirt Putin has on Trump to extort him to pull the US from our allies side and berate the leader of the country that was invaded, calling him a dictator. Better do some stretching first though, I don't want you to get hurt doing your mental gymnastics.
    Honestly, do people still believe it's dirt on trump having him act this way?

    I don't.  He just admires strongmen and wants to be like one and have his government do what he wants like Putin does.  He obviously thinks aligning with Russia makes him appear strong and will make him $.  I think that is it.  That's all it has ever been. 
    If it was really this simple, and trump isn't at least in some sort of cahoots with Putin & Russia, why would Paul Manafort have met w/ a Kremlin agent to pass along polling data while working for trump's campaign in 2016? 
    Because the trump campaign wanted Russia's help and certainly promised benfits.

    I really do not think there is a singular thing that could ruin Trump politically if it came out.  MAGA don't care.
    I agree in that there's no amount of dirt that could tank him. He really is teflon don, no argument there. 

    That doesn't mean there isn't any collusion between him & Putin though. I think the relationship goes way deeper than your suggestion that trump just admires and wants to be like him. There's way too much smoke for there to not be a fire. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    tbergs said:
    hunterh75 said:

    Napolean enjoying billions of US tax dollar money.  He doesn't have dirt on Trump like he does Biden's family ties to Ukraine and use that to extort our money.  Napolean got a smack down Oval Office style. 
    With this line of thinking then surely you must be wondering what dirt Putin has on Trump to extort him to pull the US from our allies side and berate the leader of the country that was invaded, calling him a dictator. Better do some stretching first though, I don't want you to get hurt doing your mental gymnastics.
    Honestly, do people still believe it's dirt on trump having him act this way?

    I don't.  He just admires strongmen and wants to be like one and have his government do what he wants like Putin does.  He obviously thinks aligning with Russia makes him appear strong and will make him $.  I think that is it.  That's all it has ever been. 
    If it was really this simple, and trump isn't at least in some sort of cahoots with Putin & Russia, why would Paul Manafort have met w/ a Kremlin agent to pass along polling data while working for trump's campaign in 2016? 
    Because the trump campaign wanted Russia's help and certainly promised benfits.

    I really do not think there is a singular thing that could ruin Trump politically if it came out.  MAGA don't care.
    I agree in that there's no amount of dirt that could tank him. He really is teflon don, no argument there. 

    That doesn't mean there isn't any collusion between him & Putin though. I think the relationship goes way deeper than your suggestion that trump just admires and wants to be like him. There's way too much smoke for there to not be a fire. 
    Yeah I wasnt saying no collusion…

    I was referring to WHY there is collusion IMO
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,421
    hunterh75 said:

    Napolean enjoying billions of US tax dollar money.  He doesn't have dirt on Trump like he does Biden's family ties to Ukraine and use that to extort our money.  Napolean got a smack down Oval Office style. 
    I love it when the TDS sufferers come on here and spew the party line of bs, conspiracy theories, dogwhistles, and lies created by the writers at murdoch inc. 
    Thanks for the laugh.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,791
    tbergs said:
    hunterh75 said:

    Napolean enjoying billions of US tax dollar money.  He doesn't have dirt on Trump like he does Biden's family ties to Ukraine and use that to extort our money.  Napolean got a smack down Oval Office style. 
    With this line of thinking then surely you must be wondering what dirt Putin has on Trump to extort him to pull the US from our allies side and berate the leader of the country that was invaded, calling him a dictator. Better do some stretching first though, I don't want you to get hurt doing your mental gymnastics.
    Honestly, do people still believe it's dirt on trump having him act this way?

    I don't.  He just admires strongmen and wants to be like one and have his government do what he wants like Putin does.  He obviously thinks aligning with Russia makes him appear strong and will make him $.  I think that is it.  That's all it has ever been. 
    If it was really this simple, and trump isn't at least in some sort of cahoots with Putin & Russia, why would Paul Manafort have met w/ a Kremlin agent to pass along polling data while working for trump's campaign in 2016? 
    Because the trump campaign wanted Russia's help and certainly promised benfits.

    I really do not think there is a singular thing that could ruin Trump politically if it came out.  MAGA don't care.
    I agree in that there's no amount of dirt that could tank him. He really is teflon don, no argument there. 

    That doesn't mean there isn't any collusion between him & Putin though. I think the relationship goes way deeper than your suggestion that trump just admires and wants to be like him. There's way too much smoke for there to not be a fire. 
    Yeah I wasnt saying no collusion…

    I was referring to WHY there is collusion IMO
    Gotcha.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,678
    edited March 3
    I've included only one particular part of this article below - the part that I think nicely demonstrates how disgusting and stupid MAGAs are.

    ‘They are harming ordinary people’: Trump’s funding cuts are taking a toll in North Carolina


    "..... Some USAID contractors in North Carolina have found themselves facing not just the devastation of losing their jobs, but also growing hostility and insults – both from strangers online and from political leaders who have pushed extreme views about the agency.

    The research institute RTI International, a major USAID contractor, has been listed among the top corporate philanthropists in the Raleigh-Durham region and, in addition to its global initiatives, has worked on projects to improve health outcomes in the state. But when the nonprofit organization announced last month that it was temporarily laying off dozens of staffers in North Carolina due to the Trump administration’s pause on foreign assistance, the news was met with glee from MAGA supporters online.

    “They have been stealing from the taxpayers for a very long time,” one user wrote on X. Another declared that the “grift for NC is over. The majority of us are so here for it.”

    Some zealous USAID critics have taken it upon themselves to snail mail their disdain. “I hope [your company] goes bankrupt and you and everyone else get laid off and stay unemployed forever,” stated a letter, a copy of which was obtained by CNN, that was sent to a foreign aid group that has also furloughed some workers in North Carolina. A staffer for another USAID contractor, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of concerns about backlash, said her firm has received “threat letters mailed to our office,” and that some employees had been directly targeted with harassment.

    The anger at USAID, where most staff have been fired or placed on leave, has echoed vitriol expressed from the top of the Trump administration. Trump adviser Elon Musk, who has led efforts to slash USAID’s budget in his role with the Department of Government Efficiency, declared the agency a “criminal organization,” calling it “a viper’s nest of radical-left marxists who hate America.” Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said USAID was “a sinister propagator of totalitarianism and war across the globe.” Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson accused the agency of “sowing bizarro destabilizing sexual politics into other people’s cultures” and “paying to wreck a lot of other places.”

    But staffers who have been laid off say that criticism radically distorted the work they were doing to try to save lives, promote the rule of law and boost America’s image abroad.

    “The rhetoric has felt like we are expendable, that foreign aid is not important, that, in fact, we’re wasteful,” said Ruth Garfinkel, a Durham mother of two who lost her job with a USAID contractor. “That’s very hurtful when you’ve spent 20 years doing this work and attempting to help people.”

    ........The Trump administration has portrayed various USAID projects as examples of “waste” and “abuse.” A White House webpage criticized specific initiatives, such as $1.5 million given to support opportunities for LGBTQ people in Serbia that according to contract data would increase employment potential and reduce workplace discrimination. Another project referenced is $6 million for development in Egypt that according to a linked USAID press release involved transportation access for rural communities and economic programs for families.

    Former USAID staffers argue that in addition to causing job losses, the agency’s undoing could more broadly undermine US security.

    Foreign assistance “prevents pandemics back home. … it prevents violent extremism from coming to our shores. It stems the tide of migration,” retired USAID counselor Chris Milligan told CNN. “When you turn that off and you fire the experts that are doing that, what’s the plan for keeping America safe?”........."

    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    hunterh75 said:

    Napolean enjoying billions of US tax dollar money.  He doesn't have dirt on Trump like he does Biden's family ties to Ukraine and use that to extort our money.  Napolean got a smack down Oval Office style. 
    LOL...at least spell Napoleon right. It told you it was wrong twice.

    I think he meant "Neapolitan".
    Have a scoop!
    Neapolitan Ice Cream - Gordon Food Service Store

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,368
    Remember when people said Trump is good for the stock market, morons
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,436

    NEW: Trump plans to sign an executive order to overtake the USPS by dissolving its leadership and placing it under his administration. This move would grant them immense power over mail-in ballots, a key target in Republican election fraud rhetoric. https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/trump-postal-service-executive-order-mail-voting-threat/
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,892
    Hawk123 said:
    Remember when people said Trump is good for the stock market, morons
    You're witnessing the Biden stock market today.
    We'll tell you tomorrow at 4PM who's market it is Tuesday.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,368
    Poncier said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Remember when people said Trump is good for the stock market, morons
    You're witnessing the Biden stock market today.
    We'll tell you tomorrow at 4PM whose market it is Tuesday.
    How do you figure this is Biden’s stock market?
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,847
    Hawk123 said:
    Poncier said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Remember when people said Trump is good for the stock market, morons
    You're witnessing the Biden stock market today.
    We'll tell you tomorrow at 4PM whose market it is Tuesday.
    How do you figure this is Biden’s stock market?

    Trump said it's not his economy for a year (lol), so it's sarcasm.

    I figure when it's good that Dems will say "you said it was Biden's economy for another year" (I'm not doing the wacky alternate lower/uppercase) and Reps will say "you only are responsible for when it's down."

    Race to the bottom.

    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,421
    DE4173 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Poncier said:
    Hawk123 said:
    Remember when people said Trump is good for the stock market, morons
    You're witnessing the Biden stock market today.
    We'll tell you tomorrow at 4PM whose market it is Tuesday.
    How do you figure this is Biden’s stock market?

    Trump said it's not his economy for a year (lol), so it's sarcasm.

    I figure when it's good that Dems will say "you said it was Biden's economy for another year" (I'm not doing the wacky alternate lower/uppercase) and Reps will say "you only are responsible for when it's down."

    Race to the bottom.

    He'll  be out of office for years and will still blame Biden for everything that goes wrong.
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,847
    Common sense people can put partisanship aside and assess where the credit is deserved and blame is deserved. On occasion there are numerous people to credit as well as to blame. The finger pointing is noise from minorities of the sides to appeal to their bases.
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,474
    edited March 4
    mickeyrat said:
    video....

    “A laughingstock all over the world.” Watch Donald Trump be humiliated twice by two world leaders within three days. What an embarrassment to our country.
    Too bad the laughingstock is also the world-bully. And a huge threat.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,626
    who going to watch the rapist tonight spew his grand plan and tell the world how everyone else is wrong and only he can fix it! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    not a chance
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,436
    I have 3 months of podcasts to listen to.
    and the collected works of mark twain on audible.....


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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,436
    just think of the sheer volume of annual visitors at these parks..... they come from the world over....


    The Trump administration announced it plans to terminate National Park Service leases and shutter 34 offices across the country that function as visitor centers, law enforcement offices, museums and hubs for critical park services.

    Five of these locations are in Arizona, which has the most offices slated for closure.

    @azcentral @npcapics
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,436

    I realize he constantly floods the zone with BS so people forget about the old scams because they are dealing with the new ones, but he announced a deal on Afghanistan in 2017 like his Ukraine proposal for their minerals and we got nothing except an extended war.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,847
    I'm going to watch 🫣

    Not going to rely on sound bites and posts that don't reflect all of what was said and also missing key elements.
    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
    2000: 10/17 Dallas
    2003: 4/3 OKC
    2012: 11/17 Tulsa(EV), 11/18 Tulsa(EV)
    2013: 11/16 OKC
    2014: 10/8 Tulsa
    2022: 9/20 OKC
    2023: 9/13 Ft Worth, 9/15 Ft Worth
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