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  • DavewiseDavewise Lyndhurst, NJ Posts: 9
    No, they didn't have that last year. I don't know how the sellers on Stubhub are doing it this year. I haven't had to resort to Stubhub for this tour (yet). The only one I'm still looking for this tour is Hollywood N1 (a pair anywhere). I'm hoping to catch something on F2F when it gets closer to the show dates.
  • ally12ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 195
    Davewise said:
    No, they didn't have that last year. I don't know how the sellers on Stubhub are doing it this year. I haven't had to resort to Stubhub for this tour (yet). The only one I'm still looking for this tour is Hollywood N1 (a pair anywhere). I'm hoping to catch something on F2F when it gets closer to the show dates.
    That’s interesting, we would need someone to try and report back! I prefer to check F2F but Philly is going to be tough. 
    2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City /  2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
  • SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,093
    Davewise said:
    No, they didn't have that last year. I don't know how the sellers on Stubhub are doing it this year. I haven't had to resort to Stubhub for this tour (yet). The only one I'm still looking for this tour is Hollywood N1 (a pair anywhere). I'm hoping to catch something on F2F when it gets closer to the show dates.
    I think the message probably was there in the fine print but might not have been a pop up. This is from 2023. They've always put that message up on these "non-transfer" shows as far as I recall. 


  • ally12ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 195
    That’s good to know, I always wondered about this. In most cases, the original buyer won’t be at the venue and I was skeptical on how it worked. 
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,023
    The URL provided brings up a webpage where credentials have already been entered and a dynamic barcode is provided. I traded for a Philly 1 GA and that’s how I entered the venue: someone had purchased the GA from vivid seats and forwarded the claim email for me to proceed.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
  • ally12ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 195
    edited January 3
    100 Pacer said:
    The URL provided brings up a webpage where credentials have already been entered and a dynamic barcode is provided. I traded for a Philly 1 GA and that’s how I entered the venue: someone had purchased the GA from vivid seats and forwarded the claim email for me to proceed.
    Did I understand this correctly? The chain of custody went:

    - Original 10c member gets GA tickets, they put up the ticket on F2F, it got sold.

    - Bot/Scalper buys it and sells it on secondary market for more money.

    - Someone bought the GA ticket at inflated price, changes their mind about GA and wants something different. Trade ticket to 10c member 

    - GA ticket is back in the hands of a 10c member.

    If you don’t mind me asking, did you pay face value? 



    Post edited by ally12 on
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,023
    ally12 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    The URL provided brings up a webpage where credentials have already been entered and a dynamic barcode is provided. I traded for a Philly 1 GA and that’s how I entered the venue: someone had purchased the GA from vivid seats and forwarded the claim email for me to proceed.
    Did I understand this correctly? The chain of custody went:

    - Original 10c member gets GA tickets, they put up the ticket on F2F, it got sold.

    - Bot/Scalper buys it and sells it on secondary market for more money.

    - Someone bought the GA ticket at inflated price, changes their mind about GA and wants something different. Trade ticket to 10c member 

    - GA ticket is back in the hands of a 10c member.

    If you don’t mind me asking, did you pay face value? 
    That’s correct. He paid whatever the asking price was for GA but traded it straight up for a Fenway GA. I paid face value for the Fenway GA I traded.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
  • KJ228171KJ228171 Posts: 193
    ally12 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    The URL provided brings up a webpage where credentials have already been entered and a dynamic barcode is provided. I traded for a Philly 1 GA and that’s how I entered the venue: someone had purchased the GA from vivid seats and forwarded the claim email for me to proceed.
    Did I understand this correctly? The chain of custody went:

    - Original 10c member gets GA tickets, they put up the ticket on F2F, it got sold.

    - Bot/Scalper buys it and sells it on secondary market for more money.

    - Someone bought the GA ticket at inflated price, changes their mind about GA and wants something different. Trade ticket to 10c member 

    - GA ticket is back in the hands of a 10c member.

    If you don’t mind me asking, did you pay face value? 



    Not all 10C members are altruistic or even fans so it's possible the first two are the same.


  • ally12ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 195
    100 Pacer said:
    ally12 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    The URL provided brings up a webpage where credentials have already been entered and a dynamic barcode is provided. I traded for a Philly 1 GA and that’s how I entered the venue: someone had purchased the GA from vivid seats and forwarded the claim email for me to proceed.
    Did I understand this correctly? The chain of custody went:

    - Original 10c member gets GA tickets, they put up the ticket on F2F, it got sold.

    - Bot/Scalper buys it and sells it on secondary market for more money.

    - Someone bought the GA ticket at inflated price, changes their mind about GA and wants something different. Trade ticket to 10c member 

    - GA ticket is back in the hands of a 10c member.

    If you don’t mind me asking, did you pay face value? 
    That’s correct. He paid whatever the asking price was for GA but traded it straight up for a Fenway GA. I paid face value for the Fenway GA I traded.
    If that person was/is a 10c member then our system is broken. That is some stress inducing activity to get into a concert for a band that you pay a yearly fee to follow around. 
    2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City /  2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
  • ally12ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 195
    KJ228171 said:
    ally12 said:
    100 Pacer said:
    The URL provided brings up a webpage where credentials have already been entered and a dynamic barcode is provided. I traded for a Philly 1 GA and that’s how I entered the venue: someone had purchased the GA from vivid seats and forwarded the claim email for me to proceed.
    Did I understand this correctly? The chain of custody went:

    - Original 10c member gets GA tickets, they put up the ticket on F2F, it got sold.

    - Bot/Scalper buys it and sells it on secondary market for more money.

    - Someone bought the GA ticket at inflated price, changes their mind about GA and wants something different. Trade ticket to 10c member 

    - GA ticket is back in the hands of a 10c member.

    If you don’t mind me asking, did you pay face value? 



    Not all 10C members are altruistic or even fans so it's possible the first two are the same.


    That’s another thing I wondered, scalpers/bots are possibly joining fan bases to join the lotteries. I agree some 10c members definitely don’t care for the PJ community and just have the need to fulfil their desires. 
    2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City /  2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
  • bootlegbootleg Posts: 728
    Another Pitt 1 pair up and gone before I could even click on it.
  • ally12ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 195
    bootleg said:
    Another Pitt 1 pair up and gone before I could even click on it.
    That’s weird! I was just on there and the seating chart was/is blacked out. 
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  • Pitt 2, private link sent to me. U533
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  • julieooliernjulieooliern WA Posts: 134
    Pitt 2, private link sent to me. U533
    I hope you got ‘em!!
  • bootlegbootleg Posts: 728
    ally12 said:
    bootleg said:
    Another Pitt 1 pair up and gone before I could even click on it.
    That’s weird! I was just on there and the seating chart was/is blacked out. 
    Similar pair for N2 just popped up as I was refreshing and I still can’t even click on it.  This sucks.
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,023
    If you’re coordinating:

    Ask the seller of a pair to list one single at a time. Space out the transactions. Attempt overnight between 4am-5am Eastern for fewer hiccups.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
  • ally12ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 195
    bootleg said:
    ally12 said:
    bootleg said:
    Another Pitt 1 pair up and gone before I could even click on it.
    That’s weird! I was just on there and the seating chart was/is blacked out. 
    Similar pair for N2 just popped up as I was refreshing and I still can’t even click on it.  This sucks.
    Those N2 pair was coordinated through the Pittsburgh thread and the member still didn’t get them. They got a code U533
    2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City /  2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City
  • bootlegbootleg Posts: 728
    Pitt 2, private link sent to me. U533
    I hope you got ‘em!!
    Nope, and I was even refreshing as they showed up and I can’t even cart them.
  • bootlegbootleg Posts: 728
    ally12 said:
    bootleg said:
    ally12 said:
    bootleg said:
    Another Pitt 1 pair up and gone before I could even click on it.
    That’s weird! I was just on there and the seating chart was/is blacked out. 
    Similar pair for N2 just popped up as I was refreshing and I still can’t even click on it.  This sucks.
    Those N2 pair was coordinated through the Pittsburgh thread and the member still didn’t get them. They got a code U533
    It’s crazy that even a private link that seems to be faster than refreshing the site still isn’t fast enough.
  • SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,093
    Pitt 2, private link sent to me. U533
    I assume you tried again. Did it then say unavailable?
  • Shaindli1Shaindli1 MA Posts: 423
    bootleg said:
    ally12 said:
    bootleg said:
    ally12 said:
    bootleg said:
    Another Pitt 1 pair up and gone before I could even click on it.
    That’s weird! I was just on there and the seating chart was/is blacked out. 
    Similar pair for N2 just popped up as I was refreshing and I still can’t even click on it.  This sucks.
    Those N2 pair was coordinated through the Pittsburgh thread and the member still didn’t get them. They got a code U533
    It’s crazy that even a private link that seems to be faster than refreshing the site still isn’t fast enough.
    Happened to me.
    Desperately trying to get Raleigh N1. A kind person PMed me their link. Still didn't get it.

    Then two links posted a day apart in a FB group. Didn't get those.

  • ally12ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 195
    bootleg said:
    ally12 said:
    bootleg said:
    ally12 said:
    bootleg said:
    Another Pitt 1 pair up and gone before I could even click on it.
    That’s weird! I was just on there and the seating chart was/is blacked out. 
    Similar pair for N2 just popped up as I was refreshing and I still can’t even click on it.  This sucks.
    Those N2 pair was coordinated through the Pittsburgh thread and the member still didn’t get them. They got a code U533
    It’s crazy that even a private link that seems to be faster than refreshing the site still isn’t fast enough.
    It sucks, it’s seems that the bots/scalpers have a running script on the TM website. Anything lower bowl gets purchased ASAP
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  • deb1211deb1211 Posts: 1,711
    Pitt 2, private link sent to me. U533
    Wow that sucks. I'm sorry. It's crazy when even that doesn't work 
  • SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,093
    bootleg said:
    ally12 said:
    bootleg said:
    ally12 said:
    bootleg said:
    Another Pitt 1 pair up and gone before I could even click on it.
    That’s weird! I was just on there and the seating chart was/is blacked out. 
    Similar pair for N2 just popped up as I was refreshing and I still can’t even click on it.  This sucks.
    Those N2 pair was coordinated through the Pittsburgh thread and the member still didn’t get them. They got a code U533
    It’s crazy that even a private link that seems to be faster than refreshing the site still isn’t fast enough.
    U533 sometimes means there's a problem with the tickets. So it wasn't necessarily a speed issue
  • ekwiptekwipt Vancouver Posts: 674
    100 Pacer said:
    If you’re coordinating:

    Ask the seller of a pair to list one single at a time. Space out the transactions. Attempt overnight between 4am-5am Eastern for fewer hiccups.
    This is key 👆. I’ve watched singles sit for up to 30 mins but pairs are always gone instantly. 
  • bootlegbootleg Posts: 728
    ekwipt said:
    100 Pacer said:
    If you’re coordinating:

    Ask the seller of a pair to list one single at a time. Space out the transactions. Attempt overnight between 4am-5am Eastern for fewer hiccups.
    This is key 👆. I’ve watched singles sit for up to 30 mins but pairs are always gone instantly. 
    It just sucks that you’ve got someone willing to give you their link, now you’ve got to get them to also wake up at 4am just to try to sell 1 ticket at a time.  The whole thing is just wasting a large collective amount of time.
  • ekwiptekwipt Vancouver Posts: 674
    bootleg said:
    ekwipt said:
    100 Pacer said:
    If you’re coordinating:

    Ask the seller of a pair to list one single at a time. Space out the transactions. Attempt overnight between 4am-5am Eastern for fewer hiccups.
    This is key 👆. I’ve watched singles sit for up to 30 mins but pairs are always gone instantly. 
    It just sucks that you’ve got someone willing to give you their link, now you’ve got to get them to also wake up at 4am just to try to sell 1 ticket at a time.  The whole thing is just wasting a large collective amount of time.
    Yup it’s brutal. Lower bowl seats in 2025
    are as hard to get as 2024 GA. Hopefully things open up more closer to showtime. 
  • ally12ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 195
    I looked up code U533 and everything points back to fraud.

     Maybe the band is cancelling 2nd hand tickets. All these “tickets” we are seeing that disappear quickly are getting cancelled and possibly being held to be released later on. 

    Shame, the OP of the tickets has been a paying member of 10c for a longtime.
     
    I would consider yourself lucky and keep on searching.
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  • SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,093
    edited January 3
    bootleg said:
    ekwipt said:
    100 Pacer said:
    If you’re coordinating:

    Ask the seller of a pair to list one single at a time. Space out the transactions. Attempt overnight between 4am-5am Eastern for fewer hiccups.
    This is key 👆. I’ve watched singles sit for up to 30 mins but pairs are always gone instantly. 
    It just sucks that you’ve got someone willing to give you their link, now you’ve got to get them to also wake up at 4am just to try to sell 1 ticket at a time.  The whole thing is just wasting a large collective amount of time.
    If you have a link, that shouldn't be necessary in my opinion. I don't believe splitting them up at 4 am would prevent a U533 error. What it might help is that if something does go awry, there's less likely to be someone else checking the page at the time to grab the rebound. 

    If you're just sitting there refreshing the page 4-5 months before the show you're definitely wasting a large amount of time. 
    Post edited by SHZA on
  • SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,093
    ally12 said:
    I looked up code U533 and everything points back to fraud.

     Maybe the band is cancelling 2nd hand tickets. All these “tickets” we are seeing that disappear quickly are getting cancelled and possibly being held to be released later on. 

    Shame, the OP of the tickets has been a paying member of 10c for a longtime.
     
    I would consider yourself lucky and keep on searching.
    Tickets aren't being canceled. They're all on stubhub 
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