F2F is OPEN

on2legs

SHZA said:

on2legs said:

Chrrie said:

I used to be the biggest fan of f2f and wished other artists would do the same. A very kind person here taught me the ropes before the Canadian leg of the 22 tour and I’d like to think I got quite good at it while it lasted. Had no problem last year either and got all the upgrades I wanted months or weeks before the show. The good old days when even timed drops worked.

That changed this year and I can’t help but blame the mobile ticket hack that the larger brokers figured out. I feel like I started hearing about this link thing that you’d get emailed if you bought from Vivid before St. Paul but it certainly wasn’t breaking the system yet. When f2f opened unannounced for this year’s shows I got Vancouver GA within a couple hours and then nothing for any other show until the day of. Was able to cart plenty of pairs in the weeks and months leading up but never actually got any until going after singles got reliable for a little while, almost like their algorithm briefly wasn’t looking for them. Maybe that’s anecdotal but that was my perception for a bit. 

It was difficult but scraped my way through several shows almost exclusively through social means and trades, sharing log-ins or scanning each other in at the show. The few tickets I got myself were hours before doors and in some of the lower demand markets. I’m more fortunate than others in that my partner has a very good 10c number and we used to be able to plan to give unused seats to friends but everything he won for 2024 we ended up using ourselves or for GA trades. The hardest by far that I had to deal with was Seattle and Philly 1. Didn’t bother with Wrigley or MSG because of the state laws. 

I haven’t been keeping up on this thread as much partly due to being busy with holiday stuff and partly because I don’t really want to deal with the frustration right now but if it’s anything like it was this year I’m expecting links to be the only reliable way to get tickets. 

For what it’s worth, I was refreshing for another band back in early November and found myself getting locked out after 10-20 times switching between 1 and 2 tickets and the only way to fix it was to go in to purchase some of the premium tickets and release them, but then eventually I got the we think you’re a bot message for a few days. I was hoping it was an anomaly but experienced the same thing when refreshing Hollywood the day that f2f opened. So they’ve taken that away now too? The actual bots aren’t even using the web interface to purchase tickets yet that’s what Ticketmaster in its infinite wisdom decided to limit now? I hope others are having better luck. F2F is the only way I’m able to afford going to multiple shows so I definitely still want it but something needs to change. The Billie Eilish story that came out was polarizing and probably unrealistic but I’m glad other artists are realizing there’s a problem too. It sounds crazy but I actually used to enjoy the game of it when you had a chance to win, even used to joke at the end of tours that I didn’t know what to do with my time if I didn’t have to refresh anymore. 

I see your frustration but I don’t know what the better alternative is to f2f.  I don’t think it was conceived as a convenience for fans to repeatedly buy and sell tickets for each show for entire tours in a hope to upgrade to GA.  By nature, ten club tickets are non-transferable and f2f was just the outlet for people who won tickets and then couldn’t attend the show.  F2F would then get those tickets into the hands of other fans who wanted in the door.  

Scalpers have exploited loop holes in the system to their advantage but so have fans.  It was inevitable that Ticketmaster was going to try and close some of those loop holes.  

Maybe repeated upgrades wasn't the intent, but fans who upgrade are still playing by the rules of no transfer and resale at face value only. Until 2022, Stubhub et al. respected that by not allowing listings for non-transfer states. With the current situation, the supposed "non-transfer" restrictions and face value resale policy that is being promised with each of these tours are a complete joke. 

The links that are now available at least are a way to do something resembling a true "fan to fan" transfer. 

I think the links are awesome and a fan friendly move.  

PJNB

It’s just straight up laziness from 10C not doing will call. They know what’s happening with fan to fan. They can see the secondary sites benefiting from 10C tickets. They act like they are doing something to stop it or at the very least putting up fake threats that they are in fact staying on top of this. We know that’s it happening. 

They have ruined 10C tickets imo

Taken out GA only 
Taken out priority 
Taken out will call

Allowed so many burner accounts to be created 
Allowed scalpers to make so much money of this band. 

Allowing people to put in for everything and then figure it out later

They are also watching fan to fan 10C tickets being scooped up and put on secondary sites. In the meantime fans are spending actual days and days refreshing trying to get a whiff at something decent. They see how addicted some people are to this ticketing method. Sure they are not responsible for what I do with my time but this is the PJ ticket world that we live in now with them allowing so many people to get tickets they don’t even want. 

Fixes

Bring back 2018 and before Lotto. 

Problem solved. 

given2flym

on2legs said:

SHZA said:

on2legs said:

Chrrie said:

I used to be the biggest fan of f2f and wished other artists would do the same. A very kind person here taught me the ropes before the Canadian leg of the 22 tour and I’d like to think I got quite good at it while it lasted. Had no problem last year either and got all the upgrades I wanted months or weeks before the show. The good old days when even timed drops worked.

That changed this year and I can’t help but blame the mobile ticket hack that the larger brokers figured out. I feel like I started hearing about this link thing that you’d get emailed if you bought from Vivid before St. Paul but it certainly wasn’t breaking the system yet. When f2f opened unannounced for this year’s shows I got Vancouver GA within a couple hours and then nothing for any other show until the day of. Was able to cart plenty of pairs in the weeks and months leading up but never actually got any until going after singles got reliable for a little while, almost like their algorithm briefly wasn’t looking for them. Maybe that’s anecdotal but that was my perception for a bit. 

It was difficult but scraped my way through several shows almost exclusively through social means and trades, sharing log-ins or scanning each other in at the show. The few tickets I got myself were hours before doors and in some of the lower demand markets. I’m more fortunate than others in that my partner has a very good 10c number and we used to be able to plan to give unused seats to friends but everything he won for 2024 we ended up using ourselves or for GA trades. The hardest by far that I had to deal with was Seattle and Philly 1. Didn’t bother with Wrigley or MSG because of the state laws. 

I haven’t been keeping up on this thread as much partly due to being busy with holiday stuff and partly because I don’t really want to deal with the frustration right now but if it’s anything like it was this year I’m expecting links to be the only reliable way to get tickets. 

For what it’s worth, I was refreshing for another band back in early November and found myself getting locked out after 10-20 times switching between 1 and 2 tickets and the only way to fix it was to go in to purchase some of the premium tickets and release them, but then eventually I got the we think you’re a bot message for a few days. I was hoping it was an anomaly but experienced the same thing when refreshing Hollywood the day that f2f opened. So they’ve taken that away now too? The actual bots aren’t even using the web interface to purchase tickets yet that’s what Ticketmaster in its infinite wisdom decided to limit now? I hope others are having better luck. F2F is the only way I’m able to afford going to multiple shows so I definitely still want it but something needs to change. The Billie Eilish story that came out was polarizing and probably unrealistic but I’m glad other artists are realizing there’s a problem too. It sounds crazy but I actually used to enjoy the game of it when you had a chance to win, even used to joke at the end of tours that I didn’t know what to do with my time if I didn’t have to refresh anymore. 

I see your frustration but I don’t know what the better alternative is to f2f.  I don’t think it was conceived as a convenience for fans to repeatedly buy and sell tickets for each show for entire tours in a hope to upgrade to GA.  By nature, ten club tickets are non-transferable and f2f was just the outlet for people who won tickets and then couldn’t attend the show.  F2F would then get those tickets into the hands of other fans who wanted in the door.  

Scalpers have exploited loop holes in the system to their advantage but so have fans.  It was inevitable that Ticketmaster was going to try and close some of those loop holes.  

Maybe repeated upgrades wasn't the intent, but fans who upgrade are still playing by the rules of no transfer and resale at face value only. Until 2022, Stubhub et al. respected that by not allowing listings for non-transfer states. With the current situation, the supposed "non-transfer" restrictions and face value resale policy that is being promised with each of these tours are a complete joke. 

The links that are now available at least are a way to do something resembling a true "fan to fan" transfer. 

I think the links are awesome and a fan friendly move.  

SHZA said it. 

Before, F2F was literally that - a fan to fan marketplace. 

Saying “the links are a fan friendly move” - that’s ignoring that in 2022-2023 basically only fans were getting these tickets - from other fans. As intended. The onset of “bots” and brokers has ruined what was quite a nice system. For fans. 

Chrrie

on2legs said:

SHZA said:

on2legs said:

Chrrie said:

I used to be the biggest fan of f2f and wished other artists would do the same. A very kind person here taught me the ropes before the Canadian leg of the 22 tour and I’d like to think I got quite good at it while it lasted. Had no problem last year either and got all the upgrades I wanted months or weeks before the show. The good old days when even timed drops worked.

That changed this year and I can’t help but blame the mobile ticket hack that the larger brokers figured out. I feel like I started hearing about this link thing that you’d get emailed if you bought from Vivid before St. Paul but it certainly wasn’t breaking the system yet. When f2f opened unannounced for this year’s shows I got Vancouver GA within a couple hours and then nothing for any other show until the day of. Was able to cart plenty of pairs in the weeks and months leading up but never actually got any until going after singles got reliable for a little while, almost like their algorithm briefly wasn’t looking for them. Maybe that’s anecdotal but that was my perception for a bit. 

It was difficult but scraped my way through several shows almost exclusively through social means and trades, sharing log-ins or scanning each other in at the show. The few tickets I got myself were hours before doors and in some of the lower demand markets. I’m more fortunate than others in that my partner has a very good 10c number and we used to be able to plan to give unused seats to friends but everything he won for 2024 we ended up using ourselves or for GA trades. The hardest by far that I had to deal with was Seattle and Philly 1. Didn’t bother with Wrigley or MSG because of the state laws. 

I haven’t been keeping up on this thread as much partly due to being busy with holiday stuff and partly because I don’t really want to deal with the frustration right now but if it’s anything like it was this year I’m expecting links to be the only reliable way to get tickets. 

For what it’s worth, I was refreshing for another band back in early November and found myself getting locked out after 10-20 times switching between 1 and 2 tickets and the only way to fix it was to go in to purchase some of the premium tickets and release them, but then eventually I got the we think you’re a bot message for a few days. I was hoping it was an anomaly but experienced the same thing when refreshing Hollywood the day that f2f opened. So they’ve taken that away now too? The actual bots aren’t even using the web interface to purchase tickets yet that’s what Ticketmaster in its infinite wisdom decided to limit now? I hope others are having better luck. F2F is the only way I’m able to afford going to multiple shows so I definitely still want it but something needs to change. The Billie Eilish story that came out was polarizing and probably unrealistic but I’m glad other artists are realizing there’s a problem too. It sounds crazy but I actually used to enjoy the game of it when you had a chance to win, even used to joke at the end of tours that I didn’t know what to do with my time if I didn’t have to refresh anymore. 

I see your frustration but I don’t know what the better alternative is to f2f.  I don’t think it was conceived as a convenience for fans to repeatedly buy and sell tickets for each show for entire tours in a hope to upgrade to GA.  By nature, ten club tickets are non-transferable and f2f was just the outlet for people who won tickets and then couldn’t attend the show.  F2F would then get those tickets into the hands of other fans who wanted in the door.  

Scalpers have exploited loop holes in the system to their advantage but so have fans.  It was inevitable that Ticketmaster was going to try and close some of those loop holes.  

Maybe repeated upgrades wasn't the intent, but fans who upgrade are still playing by the rules of no transfer and resale at face value only. Until 2022, Stubhub et al. respected that by not allowing listings for non-transfer states. With the current situation, the supposed "non-transfer" restrictions and face value resale policy that is being promised with each of these tours are a complete joke. 

The links that are now available at least are a way to do something resembling a true "fan to fan" transfer. 

I think the links are awesome and a fan friendly move.  

In 2022 and 2023 it was pretty close to fan to fan system. Look through the old f2f threads and it’s full of 10c members actually getting tickets from refreshing. Now the links have become the only way to get anything until the secondary market tanks enough for them not to buy everything. 

SHZA

Chrrie said:

on2legs said:

SHZA said:

on2legs said:

Chrrie said:

I used to be the biggest fan of f2f and wished other artists would do the same. A very kind person here taught me the ropes before the Canadian leg of the 22 tour and I’d like to think I got quite good at it while it lasted. Had no problem last year either and got all the upgrades I wanted months or weeks before the show. The good old days when even timed drops worked.

That changed this year and I can’t help but blame the mobile ticket hack that the larger brokers figured out. I feel like I started hearing about this link thing that you’d get emailed if you bought from Vivid before St. Paul but it certainly wasn’t breaking the system yet. When f2f opened unannounced for this year’s shows I got Vancouver GA within a couple hours and then nothing for any other show until the day of. Was able to cart plenty of pairs in the weeks and months leading up but never actually got any until going after singles got reliable for a little while, almost like their algorithm briefly wasn’t looking for them. Maybe that’s anecdotal but that was my perception for a bit. 

It was difficult but scraped my way through several shows almost exclusively through social means and trades, sharing log-ins or scanning each other in at the show. The few tickets I got myself were hours before doors and in some of the lower demand markets. I’m more fortunate than others in that my partner has a very good 10c number and we used to be able to plan to give unused seats to friends but everything he won for 2024 we ended up using ourselves or for GA trades. The hardest by far that I had to deal with was Seattle and Philly 1. Didn’t bother with Wrigley or MSG because of the state laws. 

I haven’t been keeping up on this thread as much partly due to being busy with holiday stuff and partly because I don’t really want to deal with the frustration right now but if it’s anything like it was this year I’m expecting links to be the only reliable way to get tickets. 

For what it’s worth, I was refreshing for another band back in early November and found myself getting locked out after 10-20 times switching between 1 and 2 tickets and the only way to fix it was to go in to purchase some of the premium tickets and release them, but then eventually I got the we think you’re a bot message for a few days. I was hoping it was an anomaly but experienced the same thing when refreshing Hollywood the day that f2f opened. So they’ve taken that away now too? The actual bots aren’t even using the web interface to purchase tickets yet that’s what Ticketmaster in its infinite wisdom decided to limit now? I hope others are having better luck. F2F is the only way I’m able to afford going to multiple shows so I definitely still want it but something needs to change. The Billie Eilish story that came out was polarizing and probably unrealistic but I’m glad other artists are realizing there’s a problem too. It sounds crazy but I actually used to enjoy the game of it when you had a chance to win, even used to joke at the end of tours that I didn’t know what to do with my time if I didn’t have to refresh anymore. 

I see your frustration but I don’t know what the better alternative is to f2f.  I don’t think it was conceived as a convenience for fans to repeatedly buy and sell tickets for each show for entire tours in a hope to upgrade to GA.  By nature, ten club tickets are non-transferable and f2f was just the outlet for people who won tickets and then couldn’t attend the show.  F2F would then get those tickets into the hands of other fans who wanted in the door.  

Scalpers have exploited loop holes in the system to their advantage but so have fans.  It was inevitable that Ticketmaster was going to try and close some of those loop holes.  

Maybe repeated upgrades wasn't the intent, but fans who upgrade are still playing by the rules of no transfer and resale at face value only. Until 2022, Stubhub et al. respected that by not allowing listings for non-transfer states. With the current situation, the supposed "non-transfer" restrictions and face value resale policy that is being promised with each of these tours are a complete joke. 

The links that are now available at least are a way to do something resembling a true "fan to fan" transfer. 

I think the links are awesome and a fan friendly move.  

In 2022 and 2023 it was pretty close to fan to fan system. Look through the old f2f threads and it’s full of 10c members actually getting tickets from refreshing. Now the links have become the only way to get anything until the secondary market tanks enough for them not to buy everything. 

Right, but if you wanted a particular person to get your tickets, there wasn't a way to do it before the link. If someone faster was refreshing at the time, even in the middle of the night, it could get sniped. The link at least would give the intended recipient a brief window which didn't exist before. The rest of it is a disaster though compared to how it was lol 

on2legs

SHZA said:

Chrrie said:

on2legs said:

SHZA said:

on2legs said:

Chrrie said:

I used to be the biggest fan of f2f and wished other artists would do the same. A very kind person here taught me the ropes before the Canadian leg of the 22 tour and I’d like to think I got quite good at it while it lasted. Had no problem last year either and got all the upgrades I wanted months or weeks before the show. The good old days when even timed drops worked.

That changed this year and I can’t help but blame the mobile ticket hack that the larger brokers figured out. I feel like I started hearing about this link thing that you’d get emailed if you bought from Vivid before St. Paul but it certainly wasn’t breaking the system yet. When f2f opened unannounced for this year’s shows I got Vancouver GA within a couple hours and then nothing for any other show until the day of. Was able to cart plenty of pairs in the weeks and months leading up but never actually got any until going after singles got reliable for a little while, almost like their algorithm briefly wasn’t looking for them. Maybe that’s anecdotal but that was my perception for a bit. 

It was difficult but scraped my way through several shows almost exclusively through social means and trades, sharing log-ins or scanning each other in at the show. The few tickets I got myself were hours before doors and in some of the lower demand markets. I’m more fortunate than others in that my partner has a very good 10c number and we used to be able to plan to give unused seats to friends but everything he won for 2024 we ended up using ourselves or for GA trades. The hardest by far that I had to deal with was Seattle and Philly 1. Didn’t bother with Wrigley or MSG because of the state laws. 

I haven’t been keeping up on this thread as much partly due to being busy with holiday stuff and partly because I don’t really want to deal with the frustration right now but if it’s anything like it was this year I’m expecting links to be the only reliable way to get tickets. 

For what it’s worth, I was refreshing for another band back in early November and found myself getting locked out after 10-20 times switching between 1 and 2 tickets and the only way to fix it was to go in to purchase some of the premium tickets and release them, but then eventually I got the we think you’re a bot message for a few days. I was hoping it was an anomaly but experienced the same thing when refreshing Hollywood the day that f2f opened. So they’ve taken that away now too? The actual bots aren’t even using the web interface to purchase tickets yet that’s what Ticketmaster in its infinite wisdom decided to limit now? I hope others are having better luck. F2F is the only way I’m able to afford going to multiple shows so I definitely still want it but something needs to change. The Billie Eilish story that came out was polarizing and probably unrealistic but I’m glad other artists are realizing there’s a problem too. It sounds crazy but I actually used to enjoy the game of it when you had a chance to win, even used to joke at the end of tours that I didn’t know what to do with my time if I didn’t have to refresh anymore. 

I see your frustration but I don’t know what the better alternative is to f2f.  I don’t think it was conceived as a convenience for fans to repeatedly buy and sell tickets for each show for entire tours in a hope to upgrade to GA.  By nature, ten club tickets are non-transferable and f2f was just the outlet for people who won tickets and then couldn’t attend the show.  F2F would then get those tickets into the hands of other fans who wanted in the door.  

Scalpers have exploited loop holes in the system to their advantage but so have fans.  It was inevitable that Ticketmaster was going to try and close some of those loop holes.  

Maybe repeated upgrades wasn't the intent, but fans who upgrade are still playing by the rules of no transfer and resale at face value only. Until 2022, Stubhub et al. respected that by not allowing listings for non-transfer states. With the current situation, the supposed "non-transfer" restrictions and face value resale policy that is being promised with each of these tours are a complete joke. 

The links that are now available at least are a way to do something resembling a true "fan to fan" transfer. 

I think the links are awesome and a fan friendly move.  

In 2022 and 2023 it was pretty close to fan to fan system. Look through the old f2f threads and it’s full of 10c members actually getting tickets from refreshing. Now the links have become the only way to get anything until the secondary market tanks enough for them not to buy everything. 

Right, but if you wanted a particular person to get your tickets, there wasn't a way to do it before the link. If someone faster was refreshing at the time, even in the middle of the night, it could get sniped. The link at least would give the intended recipient a brief window which didn't exist before. The rest of it is a disaster though compared to how it was lol 

This.  

craigraether

Chrrie said:

on2legs said:

SHZA said:

on2legs said:

Chrrie said:

I used to be the biggest fan of f2f and wished other artists would do the same. A very kind person here taught me the ropes before the Canadian leg of the 22 tour and I’d like to think I got quite good at it while it lasted. Had no problem last year either and got all the upgrades I wanted months or weeks before the show. The good old days when even timed drops worked.

That changed this year and I can’t help but blame the mobile ticket hack that the larger brokers figured out. I feel like I started hearing about this link thing that you’d get emailed if you bought from Vivid before St. Paul but it certainly wasn’t breaking the system yet. When f2f opened unannounced for this year’s shows I got Vancouver GA within a couple hours and then nothing for any other show until the day of. Was able to cart plenty of pairs in the weeks and months leading up but never actually got any until going after singles got reliable for a little while, almost like their algorithm briefly wasn’t looking for them. Maybe that’s anecdotal but that was my perception for a bit. 

It was difficult but scraped my way through several shows almost exclusively through social means and trades, sharing log-ins or scanning each other in at the show. The few tickets I got myself were hours before doors and in some of the lower demand markets. I’m more fortunate than others in that my partner has a very good 10c number and we used to be able to plan to give unused seats to friends but everything he won for 2024 we ended up using ourselves or for GA trades. The hardest by far that I had to deal with was Seattle and Philly 1. Didn’t bother with Wrigley or MSG because of the state laws. 

I haven’t been keeping up on this thread as much partly due to being busy with holiday stuff and partly because I don’t really want to deal with the frustration right now but if it’s anything like it was this year I’m expecting links to be the only reliable way to get tickets. 

For what it’s worth, I was refreshing for another band back in early November and found myself getting locked out after 10-20 times switching between 1 and 2 tickets and the only way to fix it was to go in to purchase some of the premium tickets and release them, but then eventually I got the we think you’re a bot message for a few days. I was hoping it was an anomaly but experienced the same thing when refreshing Hollywood the day that f2f opened. So they’ve taken that away now too? The actual bots aren’t even using the web interface to purchase tickets yet that’s what Ticketmaster in its infinite wisdom decided to limit now? I hope others are having better luck. F2F is the only way I’m able to afford going to multiple shows so I definitely still want it but something needs to change. The Billie Eilish story that came out was polarizing and probably unrealistic but I’m glad other artists are realizing there’s a problem too. It sounds crazy but I actually used to enjoy the game of it when you had a chance to win, even used to joke at the end of tours that I didn’t know what to do with my time if I didn’t have to refresh anymore. 

I see your frustration but I don’t know what the better alternative is to f2f.  I don’t think it was conceived as a convenience for fans to repeatedly buy and sell tickets for each show for entire tours in a hope to upgrade to GA.  By nature, ten club tickets are non-transferable and f2f was just the outlet for people who won tickets and then couldn’t attend the show.  F2F would then get those tickets into the hands of other fans who wanted in the door.  

Scalpers have exploited loop holes in the system to their advantage but so have fans.  It was inevitable that Ticketmaster was going to try and close some of those loop holes.  

Maybe repeated upgrades wasn't the intent, but fans who upgrade are still playing by the rules of no transfer and resale at face value only. Until 2022, Stubhub et al. respected that by not allowing listings for non-transfer states. With the current situation, the supposed "non-transfer" restrictions and face value resale policy that is being promised with each of these tours are a complete joke. 

The links that are now available at least are a way to do something resembling a true "fan to fan" transfer. 

I think the links are awesome and a fan friendly move.  

In 2022 and 2023 it was pretty close to fan to fan system. Look through the old f2f threads and it’s full of 10c members actually getting tickets from refreshing. Now the links have become the only way to get anything until the secondary market tanks enough for them not to buy everything. 

2022 was good for fans, 2023 is what we saw tickets going right to eBay within minutes, we could still have some success, they were not as good at beating us as in 2024... where it became impossible. I blame Taylor Swift, her tickets and tour forced resellers to up their game. 

given2flym

SHZA said:
  Right, but if you wanted a particular person to get your tickets, there wasn't a way to do it before the link. If someone faster was refreshing at the time, even in the middle of the night, it could get sniped. The link at least would give the intended recipient a brief window which didn't exist before. The rest of it is a disaster though compared to how it was lol 

Yeah. That’s true, the link is good for an attempt at getting to a specific person. 

I guess it’s more that there are many tickets that belong to people with no forum/Facebook group and just toss up on to F2F. And those are going straight to brokers and scalpers. Links don’t help with those. 

2022 with links also available to use? Ideal. 

aisleseats

I'm gonna have to agree with the earlier sentiment. I think everyone should just stop looking and stop refreshing immediately.
Spread the word.

craigraether

aisleseats said:

I'm gonna have to agree with the earlier sentiment. I think everyone should just stop looking and stop refreshing immediately.
Spread the word.

Add to the message to share links directly via txt. ( not posting) not DM not email. All too slow.. Lets get some successes through working this network of fans and turn the tide against TM/BOTS

HailHailVitalogy

Will Call would be a lot harder to operate with how many more tickets are going to 10c at each venue today compared to before. The biggest argument against Will Call was that if we suddenly couldn’t go, 10c did not allow us to change the name on the tickets. Rarely did they do it. That’s why I say let us transfer to other 10c emails. There have also been hiccups - Gorge 2006 I think 2/3 of the venue missed the first few songs. Bristow 2010 they couldn’t find my tickets but saw my confirmation and worked it out. 

At the end of the day PJ wants to sell as many tickets as possible to their fan club because it fills seats for the promoter. That’s why no priority and uppers. The uppers started with the harder shows, now it’s become standard. 

F2F and the TM drops have actually made going to as many shows as possible, easier. Definitely was harder before Covid, but that’s why we all made connections with each other on this forum.
The sad part is that they say they’re going to do something about the resales on the secondary market, but don’t. At least make a “Top 3 Priority” or only allow us to enter for 1 more than half of the shows. If there’s 10 shows we can only enter for 6. 

PJNB

You put in for shows you are going to go to. 

You can’t make it you knew the risk. 

Also part of the reason we are in this ticket situation is because 10C continuously failed to sell its reserved ticket allotment in smaller markets. Ticketmaster wanted a better system to guarantee these sales and here we are stuck with a system that now allows 10C tickets to be easily scalped. You think PJ would give a shit but it does not seem to be the case surprisingly. 

PJNB

Ticketmaster benefits greatly from scalpers scooping up these tickets 

It gives a false belief that a show is harder to get than it really is allowing their premium tickets to be the ones that are always available to the casual fan not refreshing all day. 

The other thing is those tickets that were snatched up by a scalper will not likely ever be put back on fan to fan again. It removes the chance of a ticket being sold over and over  again which I assume is a huge headache for Ticketmaster especially if the show is cancelled. It hurts the fan refreshing too making less and less fan to fan drops being available to them . This especially hurts GA. 

Mhemm11

Let me know if anyone has a single ticket for Pittsburgh 2 or Nashville 2 and we can try to do a timed drop.

KJ228171

KJ228171 said:

EH14457 said:

I've also been in jail for over 48 hours at this point, and based on past experiences I'm not expecting to be out any time soon.

I think what's most frustrating is that there are some really clear passive criteria TM could use to identify who is and isn't actually a bot/scalper. My TM account has probably purchased hundreds of tickets in the past years, and 90+% of them have been used without being sold or transferred. The few that have been sold (even ignoring F2F after upgrades) have been sold at roughly face value literally every time. In what universe is that behavior consistent with scalping or trying to game their system?

Even ignoring the idea of using sensible logic, they could have an appeals process with a whitelist at the IP level, account level, device ID level, anything. But they don't have formal processes for any of that. If you get lucky with CS, you might find somebody who's willing to help you. Otherwise you get a useless generic response. 

The whole 'blocking' charade is optics over utility, just so they can project that they're doing something. They have no incentive to do more than that.

Have you tried to list tickets (without completing the listing)? I wonder if they would have to lift the block to even let you try.

Replying to myself. I'm been put in TM jail and this does not work even though TM texted me a code. My disdain for this company knows no bounds. And it's not related to the IP this time because I have a work TM account (which I can't use for personal tickets) that lets me in with on problem on the same network.

Krusen through Life

Posting two tickets for Raleigh may 11 today, section 104

KJ228171

Krusen through Life said:

Posting two tickets for Raleigh may 11 today, section 104

I'm locked out but I'm sure people on this board would appreciate it if you told them the time and posted the direct link TM will give you. It gives people hear a extra minute before it going live to the world. Also good of you to give a heads up.

runstaples

Krusen through Life said:

Posting two tickets for Raleigh may 11 today, section 104

PMed you!

Chasalla

Reading this thread, what are we doing for the preferred method of selling tickets to fans? Posting on this thread the time we are hitting the sell button and posting the link on here? 

SHZA

Chasalla said:

Reading this thread, what are we doing for the preferred method of selling tickets to fans? Posting on this thread the time we are hitting the sell button and posting the link on here? 

That works