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wnh1977wnh1977 Iowa Posts: 637
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There have been so many ticket methods with Ten Club since I became a member in late 1996.  Seems to me that "Priority" was the best of them all.  I'm sure somebody can remind me of some problems with that system, but it seemed like the best and most fair method they ever used. 

Sure, it was probably possible to miss out on a show you selected first, but it would have to be a huge, highly coveted show like Madison Square Garden or something.  This new system just ain't it.  People going 0 for 10?!  That's a loyal fan, willing to travel to see the band.  That's ridiculous that they can't even score one show, while others are scoring 4 or 5 from what I've seen.


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2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
2005: 9/9, 9/28
2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
2007: 8/5
2009: 8/23, 8/24
2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
2013: 7/19, 11/16
2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
2022: 9/18
2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
2024: 5/18, 6/29
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  • BV84003BV84003 Holt, MI Posts: 459
    Missing with priority was definitely still a high possibility, assuming you put GA as your top pick and seats for 2nd. Maybe a best of both worlds scenario would be ideal, with priority back in play AND the GA+Reserved option.
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,559
    It’s too complicated for some fans. 10Cs words not mine. 

    Truth is Ticketmaster kept fucking up the lotto and the fans intelligence was the reason they used to take it out to make it easier on them 
  • digitalkcdigitalkc Posts: 28
    I feel like the new strategy is to register for as many shows as you can (or can afford), see how the lottery shakes out, then make your plans based on which shows you won, and count on selling the ones you don't want on F2F... I don't love it.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    I do miss that system but I think the switch to TM probably killed it. It's a level of sorting that TM likely can't do and 10C likely doesn't want to mess with. I don't blame them.
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  • CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 3,075
    Bring back priority!  If you had a Reserved choice as your #1, you got tickets almost guaranteed. 
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  • Erik1977Erik1977 Heerlen Posts: 144
    Totally agree, the priority system was so much better. Some people getting multiple shows while others getting none while putting in for multiple shows just doesn't make any sense.
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  • LS164963LS164963 Posts: 186
    Absolutely 💯% and also the odds/percentage calculator for each show like the 2016 tour. If someone doesn't understand priorities is on them. These are the same people who can't read and understand simple instructions on the email and come here asking dumb questions. 
  • Lyons Den ProductionsLyons Den Productions Posts: 23
    edited December 11
    Honestly, for me, there's nothing worse than greedy whiners. As someone with probably one of the lower club member numbers on here, I think the change they need to put in place is to not allow 10c members to go in for all the shows. If they announce 10 shows, 10c members should only be allowed to go for 1 or 2 of them or something (for the 10c lottery). It's painful to see some of us getting almost everything, and then complaining they didn't get 100% of their shows, and so many other members leaving with nothing. If you got tickets to a show through 10c, you should be happy. Period. Share the wealth and spread the love around. If bringing back priority accomplishes that, I'm all for it.
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  • 3days3days Posts: 1,186
    I'm on board.... Bring back priority please
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    Lyons Den Productions said:
    Honestly, for me, there's nothing worse than greedy whiners. As someone with probably one of the lower club member numbers on here, I think the change they need to put in place is to not allow 10c members to go in for all the shows. If they announce 10 shows, 10c members should only be allowed to go for 1 or 2 of them or something (for the 10c lottery). It's painful to see some of us getting almost everything, and then complaining they didn't get 100% of their shows, and so many other members leaving with nothing. If you got tickets to a show through 10c, you should be happy. Period. Share the wealth and spread the love around. If bringing back priority accomplishes that, I'm all for it.
    I'm with you on this.
    Especially with such a small tour like this one, only 10 shows. Limit folks to being able to win no more than say 2 shows. Gives more folks a chance at something.

    And I have no skin in the 2025 game, didn't enter the lottery. Clearly the system is flawed and inequitable.
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  • MJ178168MJ178168 Posts: 183
    Completely agree.  Bring it back
  • onemorshowonemorshow Posts: 475
    Maybe they should limit each member only 4 tixs max per tour.
    (2 pairs or 4 singles).

    Take care of everyone 4 tickets 1st.
    If any extra tickets left lotto them out for all members wanting them.
  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,500
    You can’t deny me! (Well, you did) Bring priority back folks. Please.
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  • tschavtschav Posts: 2,878
    Don't disagree on the general idea of limiting number of shows to put in for, but if the band can sell massive amounts of seats for multiple shows and then put it on the fans to sell at face, I don't see why they'd limit that. It'd also likely not fix the smaller tours or cities where there's high demand regardless (MSG, Wrigley, etc)

    Missing with priority was definitely still a high possibility, assuming you put GA as your top pick and seats for 2nd. Maybe a best of both worlds scenario would be ideal, with priority back in play AND the GA+Reserved option.
    This makes the most sense, since GA draws with priority were typically longshot bets that could've negatively impacted your ability to go to shows.
  • MJ178168MJ178168 Posts: 183
    The short tours are also contributing to some of these issues.  If they announced 30 shows at once, you likely wouldn't have someone putting in for all 30.  When they use to have more shows announced at once it also increased the odds of getting tickets.  
  • jwhjr17jwhjr17 Posts: 2,022
    Why?  Then there are endless threads about this or that show had 99% probability and I didn't get it with my #1 priority, but so and so got it with their 18th priority.  It still seems most of the complete misses are people who don't read and only sign up for the Artist Presale (old Verified Fan).  As long as I have an earlier chance at tickets I'm happy.  If I don't score through the lottery there are always tickets available down the road, even more so now with Fan to Fan.  No issue with the current process from me.  Regardless of the method of distributing tickets, there are more people that want them than there are tickets.
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    They could go true old school with priority and members only get 1 show a tour and that's it. Rest go to general public sale. Would almost be worth it to see peoples heads explode around here if they did that. Not sure many remember the days you only got to pick one show. 
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  • LS164963LS164963 Posts: 186
    edited December 11
    If you really want to go old school we'll be lining up by the letter of your last name day of show to pick up tickets, lol
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053
    pjsteelerfan said:
    They could go true old school with priority and members only get 1 show a tour and that's it. Rest go to general public sale. Would almost be worth it to see peoples heads explode around here if they did that. Not sure many remember the days you only got to pick one show. 

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  • 3days3days Posts: 1,186
    jwhjr17 said:
    Why?  Then there are endless threads about this or that show had 99% probability and I didn't get it with my #1 priority, but so and so got it with their 18th priority.  It still seems most of the complete misses are people who don't read and only sign up for the Artist Presale (old Verified Fan).  As long as I have an earlier chance at tickets I'm happy.  If I don't score through the lottery there are always tickets available down the road, even more so now with Fan to Fan.  No issue with the current process from me.  Regardless of the method of distributing tickets, there are more people that want them than there are tickets.
    Priority picks generally worked. I think some people picked GA only with their first few priorities, which only made sense if you haf a GA OR BUST mentality. Of course, now they've done away with GA only. I'm not rooting for it's return, but I will say that there was less talk about people "dumping reserves" with a strictly GA option.
  • BloodMeridian80BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 680
    tschav said:
    Don't disagree on the general idea of limiting number of shows to put in for, but if the band can sell massive amounts of seats for multiple shows and then put it on the fans to sell at face, I don't see why they'd limit that. It'd also likely not fix the smaller tours or cities where there's high demand regardless (MSG, Wrigley, etc)

    I did like priority, but maximizing TC tickets and having F2F is pretty damn good as well. If it's one or the other, I'd keep the latter. I do understand why people question the value of the TC membership if they can't even get tickets to shows in their area. It's a conundrum. 
  • tschavtschav Posts: 2,878
    edited December 11
    pjsteelerfan said:
    They could go true old school with priority and members only get 1 show a tour and that's it. Rest go to general public sale. Would almost be worth it to see peoples heads explode around here if they did that. Not sure many remember the days you only got to pick one show. 
    I'd be curious if fans would be more confused if they had to mail in a check to request a ticket vs doing the current process...



  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,559
    LMAO
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,298
    HAHAHA
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  • Douglas12373Douglas12373 Posts: 345
    Old Deadheads will remember going to the post office to buy f'ing postal money orders and filling out their little 3x5 cards and carefully getting eeryvthing squared away and making sure it was postmarked on the magic day and then waiting FOREVER for tix. I'll take this system, thanks
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,338
    I truly believe it’s all about selling tickets to continue getting paid by larger venues. They know we’re traveling. They’ve added upper deck seats and are allowing us to enter for any show with the same odds. If there was priority, Raleigh might not have sold 10c seats in the back of the lowers. 
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  • jdopjjdopj Posts: 707
    CopperTom said:
    Bring back priority!  If you had a Reserved choice as your #1, you got tickets almost guaranteed. 
    Exactly!!
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,481
    edited December 11
    PJNB said:
    It’s too complicated for some fans. 10Cs words not mine. 

    Truth is Ticketmaster kept fucking up the lotto and the fans intelligence was the reason they used to take it out to make it easier on them 
    This was exactly what I was thinking. I don't remember 10c actually saying it. But I do remember all the people who couldn't understand a simple number system and flood the forum with complaints about it. 
    .
    I still see multiple posts in FB with people asking if there's a difference between the 10c and verified fan (or whatever its called now) or saying they signed up for one and not the other and didn't get picked in the lottery.
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  • nautical_disasternautical_disaster Posts: 307
    I don't have a horse in this race - i'm still in shock that they're not playing Montreal. But it does seem a little weird to me that people (like for example mcgruff) who's been going to shows for years and only puts in for one show gets shut out. Yes, i know it's not truly "weird", it's math and probability working against someone, but it seems unjust somehow lol. If it was up to me, tickets priority would be based on how much you enjoy HBO's Deadwood and your position on whether or not breweries should serve hoppy beer.

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  • rival9500rival9500 Posts: 585
    Yes.  Bring back priority.
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    2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
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    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Columbus
    2012: Philly
    2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
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