#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385

    How Trump Plans to Seize the Power of the Purse From Congress

    The second-term president likely will seek to cut off spending that lawmakers have already appropriated, setting off a constitutional struggle within the branches. If successful, he could wield the power to punish perceived foes.

    by Molly Redden Nov. 26, 2024, 6 a.m. EST
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    Donald Trump is entering his second term with vows to cut a vast array of government services and a radical plan to do so. Rather than relying on his party’s control of Congress to trim the budget, Trump and his advisers intend to test an obscure legal theory holding that presidents have sweeping power to withhold funding from programs they dislike.

    “We can simply choke off the money,” Trump said in a 2023 campaign video. “For 200 years under our system of government, it was undisputed that the president had the constitutional power to stop unnecessary spending.”

    His plan, known as “impoundment,” threatens to provoke a major clash over the limits of the president’s control over the budget. The Constitution gives Congress the sole authority to appropriate the federal budget, while the role of the executive branch is to dole out the money effectively. But Trump and his advisers are asserting that a president can unilaterally ignore Congress’ spending decisions and “impound” funds if he opposes them or deems them wasteful.

    Trump’s designs on the budget are part of his administration’s larger plan to consolidate as much power in the executive branch as possible. This month, he pressured the Senate to go into recess so he could appoint his cabinet without any oversight. (So far, Republicans who control the chamber have not agreed to do so.) His key advisers have spelled out plans to bring independent agencies, such as the Department of Justice, under political control.


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  • mickeyrat
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
    edited January 7
    I hope it deteriorates fast! 
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    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    edited January 7
    In 2020 people were big mad because both candidates were old and they wanted someone younger. 

    Then 2024 came along and very clever people stopped worrying about the age and health of the candidates once Biden stepped down. 

    Good stuff. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,548
    edited January 7
    The important context to remember is that Americans are mostly idiots
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 7
    The important context to remember is that Americans are mostly idiots
    HAHA
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    edited January 7
    Truth
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    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,701

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    shecky said:

    lol...double or somewhat more than double

    He never has a fucking answer. It's always just a fucking guess that gets embellished

    FoxConn anyone?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 7
    Being focused on purchasing Greenland, making Canada a state, renaming the Gulf of Mexico.....my man's rapidly losing his mind. 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    edited January 7
    Being focused on purchasing Greenland, making Canada a state, renaming the Gulf of Mexico.....my man's rapidly losing his mind. 
    That's OK, we're getting 20 billion, or something like that from Trump's buddy. No conflict of interest at all and no personal benefit to Trump what so ever. This guy just wanted to help the US build itself up, but only if Trump was president. Makes complete sense. MAGA.
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    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    edited January 7
    tbergs said:
    Being focused on purchasing Greenland, making Canada a state, renaming the Gulf of Mexico.....my man's rapidly losing his mind. 
    That's OK, we're getting 20 billion, or something like that from Trump's buddy. No conflict of interest at all and no personal benefit to Trump what so ever. This guy just wanted to help the US build itself up, but only if Trump was president. Makes complete sense. MAGA.
    That might end up being double, or more than double, no one really knows. 
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    The health concerns topic has been merged into this thread. Post thoughts here, thank you.

    Falling down,...not staying down
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 7
    Kat said:
    The health concerns topic has been merged into this thread. Post thoughts here, thank you.

    Why on earth has a separate Biden health thread been up for weeks then?

    Should we just change the name to "Most underreported story is Trump's health" then?
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    I just can't imagine how the media and GOP would react if Biden had a presser and talked about renaming the Gulf, toilets and showers, windmills driving whales crazy, etc.

    This is going to be a pathetic display for four fucking years.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    I just can't imagine how the media and GOP would react if Biden had a presser and talked about renaming the Gulf, toilets and showers, windmills driving whales crazy, etc.

    This is going to be a pathetic display for four fucking years.
    He sounds deranged.

    Imagine if they actually reported on the insane shit he said and posted on social media over the last year. But no.....the cost of eggs is a little higher than it was before. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    I just can't imagine how the media and GOP would react if Biden had a presser and talked about renaming the Gulf, toilets and showers, windmills driving whales crazy, etc.

    This is going to be a pathetic display for four fucking years.
    He sounds deranged.

    Imagine if they actually reported on the insane shit he said and posted on social media over the last year. But no.....the cost of eggs is a little higher than it was before. 
    It's just a constant stream of bullshit. He knows absolutely nothing about anything...he just yammers on and on with this weird strongman vibe. In reality he's fat, weak, orange, smells like dirty diapers, and has a cotton candy hairdo. 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    Kat said:
    The health concerns topic has been merged into this thread. Post thoughts here, thank you.

    Why on earth has a separate Biden health thread been up for weeks then?

    Should we just change the name to "Most underreported story is Trump's health" then?
    It has been merged, Juggler, Thank you.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    edited January 7
    I just can't imagine how the media and GOP would react if Biden had a presser and talked about renaming the Gulf, toilets and showers, windmills driving whales crazy, etc.

    This is going to be a pathetic display for four fucking years.
    He sounds deranged.

    Imagine if they actually reported on the insane shit he said and posted on social media over the last year. But no.....the cost of eggs is a little higher than it was before. 
    He IS deranged, and that's part of the appeal. They would rather burn the country down than share it with the people they don't like. They don't care that it impacts them too, as long as he hurts the people they hate. 

    Meanwhile it's the left that's radical and hates America. 
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