#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,347

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,680
    haha, spot on
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 445

    Market Basket Large White Eggs 18 Pack

    Market Basket Large White Eggs 18 Pack

    18 pack, USDA Grade A Brown Eggs $2.49

    Find it in the Dairy & Frozen Foods Department.


    I don't know.  Spot on, I guess.  

    Eggs, people.  
  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 445
    We aren't over eggsaggerating now are we, Juggler? 
  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,295
    battle1 said:

    Market Basket Large White Eggs 18 Pack

    Market Basket Large White Eggs 18 Pack

    18 pack, USDA Grade A Brown Eggs $2.49

    Find it in the Dairy & Frozen Foods Department.


    I don't know.  Spot on, I guess.  

    Eggs, people.  

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,680
    It’s hilarious/sad that the price of eggs is a constant topic now, just cuz the orange turd mentioned it. Just another distraction. 
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  • battle1battle1 PHI Posts: 445
    Eggs.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,683
    Many people are saying that for $69.99 you can listen to a recording of COOTWH reading Green Eggs and Ham from the Oval Office or for $106.99, from the golf course as he plays a round.
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  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,266

    Andrew Taake’s legal troubles might not be over — even though the Texas man was just pardoned by President Donald Trump after being convicted of spraying police with bear spray and using a metal whip to assault them while they defended the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

    According to a review of public court records and confirmed by the Houston district attorney’s office on Monday, Taake is still considered “at large” for the alleged 2016 crime of soliciting a minor online under 17 years old with the expectation that the individual “would engage in sexual contact” with him.


    Just one of the 1500 pieces of shit pardoned by the orange clown. 

  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,999
    mickeyrat said:
    Pfft, a handful of these doesn't matter. Somehow none of these things will be reflected on to Vance if he runs after Trump and this same person will vote for the next MAGA president. This will be a speck in the rear view mirror. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,347
    haha, spot on
    All of a sudden the outrageous price of everything doesn't matter to these people! magaaaaa!!
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,347
    EGGWATCH 2025

    https://www.al.com/news/2025/01/what-is-trump-going-to-do-about-the-price-of-eggs-inflation-is-not-his-number-1-issue.html

    What is Trump going to do about the price of eggs? Inflation is not his ‘Number 1 issue’

    • Published: Jan. 26, 2025, 8:07 a.m.
    Donald Trump

    President Donald Trump talks to reporters as he signs executive orders in the Oval Office of the White House, Monday, Jan. 20, 2025, in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)AP

    Two months ago, in his first network television interview after the election, Donald Trump said he owed his victory to Americans’ anger over immigration and inflation, specifically the rising cost of groceries.

    “When you buy apples, when you buy bacon, when you buy eggs, they would double and triple the price over a short period of time,” he told NBC’s “Meet the Press. “And I won an election based on that. We’re going to bring those prices way down.”

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    But in Trump’s first week back in the White House, there was little in his initial blitz of executive orders that directly tackled those prices, besides directing federal agencies to start “pursuing appropriate actions.”

    He is taking steps to lower energy costs, something that Trump hopes will have ripple effects throughout the economy. Otherwise, his focus has been clamping down on immigration, which he described as his “No. 1 issue” shortly after taking the oath of office.

    “They all said inflation was the No. 1 issue. I said, ‘I disagree,’” Trump said. “I talked about inflation too, but how many times can you say that an apple has doubled in cost?”

    Trump is banking on voters giving him a pass and continuing to blame former President Joe Biden for high prices. The Republican’s comments reflect the reality that presidents have almost no levers to reduce inflation quickly without causing collateral damage to other parts of the economy.

    There is more that Trump can do on energy. He is pushing to reduce regulations and increase the amount of land available for drilling. He is trying to persuade domestic and foreign oil producers to potentially sacrifice their own profits by pumping more.

    During a rally Saturday in Las Vegas, Trump went after his Democratic predecessor for allowing prices to rise under his watch, and promised to take care of the problem quickly.

    “When I think of Biden, I think of incompetence and inflation,” Trump said.

    Inflation peaked at a 9.1% annual rate in June 2022 during worldwide supply chain problems after the economic shock of the coronavirus pandemic. Overall consumer prices have fallen since then, but have ticked up in recent months, from 2.4% in September to 2.9% in December, the latest figures available. Economists have warned that Trump’s plans for tariffs and tax cuts could create new inflationary pressures and keep interest rates elevated.

    Vice President JD Vance, in an interview with CBS’ “Face the Nation” airing Sunday, defended the White House’s work so far.

    “Prices are going to come down, but it’s going to take a little bit of time, right?” he said. He added, “Rome wasn’t built in a day.”

    Trump’s relative shift away from addressing costs could create an opening for Democrats to say he is not helping working-class voters, hoping that argument could offer the party a path back to power in Washington.

    Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., said Trump preferred to distract people from inflation with talk of adding Greenland to the United States or seizing the Panama Canal.

    “It’s catnip and it causes everybody to stop paying attention to their actual economic agenda, which has nothing to do with lowering costs and everything to do with rigging the economy to help the Mar-a-Lago crowd,” he said.

    During an interview on Fox News this past week, host Sean Hannity struggled to get Trump to focus on the economy.

    “Let me get to the economy,” Hannity said at one point. “I’m running out of time.”

    “The economy is going to do great,” Trump insisted.

    When Trump did talk about inflation in the interview, he noted how low it was during his first term and insisted prices would not have jumped up if he had president after the 2020 election, even though higher inflation was a global trend coming out of the pandemic.

    It is not clear how Trump would persuade oil companies and foreign countries to quickly increase production, possibly costing them profits.

    The Energy Information Administration reported that domestic oil production has grown at an annual rate of roughly 8.4% over the past two years to an average of nearly 13.5 million barrels a day in October. Some Trump aides suggest that could increase by an additional 3 million barrels a day.

    It would be difficult to achieve that much additional production in a single year without serious changes to the global market. The International Energy Agency estimates that the oil supplied to the entire world will increase by 1.8 million barrels per day to 104.7 million barrels a day. He also has expressed opposition to climate-friendlier wind and solar energy, putting more pressure on the U.S. economy to rely on fossil fuels.

    EJ Antoni, a research fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank in Washington, said the potential increase in energy production under Trump would ultimately flow through the economy in the form of lower prices.

    “If you’re going to bring down the cost of energy, you’re going to bring down the cost of all kinds of goods and services,” he said.

    But there is a risk that some of Trump’s plans taken as a whole could raise — not reduce — prices. Deporting migrants who are in the United States illegally could deprive companies of lower wage workers. The cost of tariffs, which are taxes placed on foreign imports, could be passed on to consumers.

    Trump said that his strategy also might ultimately involve publicly pressuring the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates, saying in Davos that he would “demand” lower rates from central banks. The Fed sees its political independence as key for making tough choices to stabilize prices. Biden saw the independence as worth protecting, whereas Trump sees it as problematic.

    The Fed raised its benchmark rates starting in 2022 to make it more expensive to borrow and succeeded enough in reducing inflationary pressures that it could trim rates late last year. Trump believes that greater oil production will put him in a position to tell the Fed what to do.

    Asked in the Oval Office if he expects the Fed to listen to him, Trump simply said, “Yeah.”

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,543
    haha, spot on
    All of a sudden the outrageous price of everything doesn't matter to these people! magaaaaa!!

    Eggs Ackley!

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,347
    get my groceries down trump!


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    get my groceries down trump!



    Please tell me he didn't actually say that!  :lol:       

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,370
    I have 0% pity for MAGA’s that will be hurt by their own savior f’em 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,227
    mickeyrat said:


    Well done trump...at least he didn't take out the Officer
    He died doing what he loved. 
    lol...that's a fact

    shoulda complied.
    Except the fbi was there egging him on. 
    Surprised the FBI could afford the eggs.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,798
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    Trump’s America: where a former Capitol Police Officer needs a Go Fund Me to afford private protection because our president freed his assailants and his family is facing threats. 
    Where the fuck is the Back The Blue crowd? 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,683
    mickeyrat said:
    2025 is a thang? We were told it wasn’t. And what the hell is going on with the price of eggs?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,347
    Magas don't seem to care anymore about the issue they claimed to care about most just a few months ago. Hmmm

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/28/trump-inflation-fight-plans/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzM4MDQwNDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzM5NDIyNzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MzgwNDA0MDAsImp0aSI6IjBiZTJkZjc5LTdhNDctNGE1Mi04ODQ0LTc2NDMwYTNiYjRhYiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9vcGluaW9ucy8yMDI1LzAxLzI4L3RydW1wLWluZmxhdGlvbi1maWdodC1wbGFucy8ifQ.QFqwadyMAdvxYwsXizw7-neglU1vQoa1l7x0uV6hgvQ

    Americans are watching an inflation bait-and-switch

    A week into office, Trump has offered zero plans to lower prices.

    January 28, 2025 at 7:00 a.m. ESTToday at 7:00 a.m. EST
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    Eggs are seen for sale at a grocery store in Glendale, California, on Jan. 6. Bird flu, a disrupted supply chain and other factors have contributed to a sharp increase in egg prices in California. (Robyn Beck/AFP via Getty Images)

    Donald Trump has officially abandoned his promise to fix inflation. Maybe he never intended to fix it at all.

    The president was elected with a mandate to reduce prices, having promised that he’d lower the costs of everyday items such as eggs and bacon on Day 1. Yet a week into office, he has offered zero plans to do so. At best he has ordered his underlings to brainstorm concepts of a plan for cutting prices … and then report back in a month.

    Worse, he has undertaken a litany of measures that would raise the cost of living.

    Markets breathed a sigh of relief when new tariffs did not materialize on Trump’s first day in office. But a spat with Colombia over the weekend led him to threaten 25 percent tariffs on Colombian products, jolting coffee prices to record highs. Recall that the last time a tyrannical leader imposed tariffs on Americans’ preferred caffeinated beverage, it didn’t go so well.

    Meanwhile, on Friday, Trump’s U.S. Trade Representative began preparing paperwork to impose broad tariffs on China. Trump’s aides are also agitating to impose 25 percent tariffs on Mexico and Canada as soon as this Saturday. Contrary to Trump’s claims that only foreigners would suffer from these duties, these trade wars would raise U.S. prices on everything from tomatoes to automobiles to lumber to gasoline and natural gas.


    Never mind his campaign promises to cut energy prices in half. Sure, Trump signed an executive order last week promising to unleash “Energy Dominance”; this would be more impressive-sounding if we didn’t already have record-high energy production. The United States is producing more oil today than any country on Earth has, ever. (Natural gas production is near all-time highs, too.)

    Egg prices have also reached record highs — wholesale prices now average $6.55 for a dozen large eggs — as farmers cull flocks exposed to bird flu.

    To be sure, Trump didn’t cause chickens to fall ill. (Neither did Joe Biden, but that didn’t stop Republicans from blaming Biden for high egg prices last year.) But Trump’s actions aren’t exactly helping. He has shut down external communications from U.S. public health agencies, leading to uncertainty about what kinds of updates on bird flu civil servants are even allowed to publicly disclose.

    Nor is it helpful that, in the middle of this worldwide zoonotic outbreak, Trump has paused grant reviews for new medical research and pulled the United States out of the global organization that tracks infectious pathogens.

    Asked on Sunday why Trump has done nothing so far to address prices, his ally Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) claimed that it was never Trump’s priority to begin with. “I was pretty involved in the last campaign,” Graham said. “For every time he talked about eggs, he talked about illegal immigration 1,000 times.”

    This might disappoint voters, most of whom ranked the economy as the most important issue in this past election — and who, after Trump won, overwhelmingly said lowering prices should be top priority.

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    aham mentioned — kicking out immigrants and reducing consumer prices — are at odds. That’s because many immigrants are employed in industries experiencing labor shortages and price pressures, such as agriculture, home construction and food services.

    In California’s Central Valley, migrant farmworkers have stopped showing up because they fear immigration raids, virtually halting the region’s citrus harvest. Construction workers in Chicago have reportedly stayed home too.

    As I’ve explained, it’s not only undocumented workers who are at risk in Trump’s immigration crackdown. It’s also immigrants working here legally.

    Trump is in the process of, for lack of a better word, “de-documenting” people who currently have work authorization, including half a million immigrants from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Haiti allowed to work and live in the United States. Ukrainian refugees may be swept up in these de-documentation efforts, too.

    Finally, there’s the Federal Reserve. The Fed has struggled to wring that last stubborn bit of inflation out of our economy. Trump’s agenda, including fiscal stimulus in the form of tax cuts, will make this job harder. If price growth remains strong, this reduces the likelihood that the central bank will continue lowering interest rates.

    But Trump loves low interest rates. And now he has signaled plans to pressure the Fed into cutting rates, no matter what. As he told his audience at the World Economic Forum last week, he will “demand that interest rates drop immediately.” This will not help his cause, alas; if he succeeds in even appearing to arm-twist the Fed, that is likely to lead to even worse inflation outcomes. At least, that’s what’s happened when people in other countries believed that craven politicians, rather than independent technocrats, controlled the money supply.

    As I’ve said many times before, there isn’t much presidents can do to reduce inflation, whatever their promises. But there’s a lot they can do to make things worse.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,683
    Magas don't seem to care anymore about the issue they claimed to care about most just a few months ago. Hmmm

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/28/trump-inflation-fight-plans/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzM4MDQwNDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzM5NDIyNzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3MzgwNDA0MDAsImp0aSI6IjBiZTJkZjc5LTdhNDctNGE1Mi04ODQ0LTc2NDMwYTNiYjRhYiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9vcGluaW9ucy8yMDI1LzAxLzI4L3RydW1wLWluZmxhdGlvbi1maWdodC1wbGFucy8ifQ.QFqwadyMAdvxYwsXizw7-neglU1vQoa1l7x0uV6hgvQ

    Americans are watching an inflation bait-and-switch

    A week into office, Trump has offered zero plans to lower prices.

    January 28, 2025 at 7:00 a.m. ESTToday at 7:00 a.m. EST
    5 min
    267

    Eggs are seen for sale at a grocery store in Glendale, California, on Jan. 6. Bird flu, a disrupted supply chain and other factors have contributed to a sharp increase in egg prices in California. (Robyn Beck/AFP via Getty Images)

    Donald Trump has officially abandoned his promise to fix inflation. Maybe he never intended to fix it at all.

    The president was elected with a mandate to reduce prices, having promised that he’d lower the costs of everyday items such as eggs and bacon on Day 1. Yet a week into office, he has offered zero plans to do so. At best he has ordered his underlings to brainstorm concepts of a plan for cutting prices … and then report back in a month.

    Worse, he has undertaken a litany of measures that would raise the cost of living.

    Markets breathed a sigh of relief when new tariffs did not materialize on Trump’s first day in office. But a spat with Colombia over the weekend led him to threaten 25 percent tariffs on Colombian products, jolting coffee prices to record highs. Recall that the last time a tyrannical leader imposed tariffs on Americans’ preferred caffeinated beverage, it didn’t go so well.

    Meanwhile, on Friday, Trump’s U.S. Trade Representative began preparing paperwork to impose broad tariffs on China. Trump’s aides are also agitating to impose 25 percent tariffs on Mexico and Canada as soon as this Saturday. Contrary to Trump’s claims that only foreigners would suffer from these duties, these trade wars would raise U.S. prices on everything from tomatoes to automobiles to lumber to gasoline and natural gas.


    Never mind his campaign promises to cut energy prices in half. Sure, Trump signed an executive order last week promising to unleash “Energy Dominance”; this would be more impressive-sounding if we didn’t already have record-high energy production. The United States is producing more oil today than any country on Earth has, ever. (Natural gas production is near all-time highs, too.)

    Egg prices have also reached record highs — wholesale prices now average $6.55 for a dozen large eggs — as farmers cull flocks exposed to bird flu.

    To be sure, Trump didn’t cause chickens to fall ill. (Neither did Joe Biden, but that didn’t stop Republicans from blaming Biden for high egg prices last year.) But Trump’s actions aren’t exactly helping. He has shut down external communications from U.S. public health agencies, leading to uncertainty about what kinds of updates on bird flu civil servants are even allowed to publicly disclose.

    Nor is it helpful that, in the middle of this worldwide zoonotic outbreak, Trump has paused grant reviews for new medical research and pulled the United States out of the global organization that tracks infectious pathogens.

    Asked on Sunday why Trump has done nothing so far to address prices, his ally Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) claimed that it was never Trump’s priority to begin with. “I was pretty involved in the last campaign,” Graham said. “For every time he talked about eggs, he talked about illegal immigration 1,000 times.”

    This might disappoint voters, most of whom ranked the economy as the most important issue in this past election — and who, after Trump won, overwhelmingly said lowering prices should be top priority.

    Opinions on inflation
    Next

    aham mentioned — kicking out immigrants and reducing consumer prices — are at odds. That’s because many immigrants are employed in industries experiencing labor shortages and price pressures, such as agriculture, home construction and food services.

    In California’s Central Valley, migrant farmworkers have stopped showing up because they fear immigration raids, virtually halting the region’s citrus harvest. Construction workers in Chicago have reportedly stayed home too.

    As I’ve explained, it’s not only undocumented workers who are at risk in Trump’s immigration crackdown. It’s also immigrants working here legally.

    Trump is in the process of, for lack of a better word, “de-documenting” people who currently have work authorization, including half a million immigrants from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Haiti allowed to work and live in the United States. Ukrainian refugees may be swept up in these de-documentation efforts, too.

    Finally, there’s the Federal Reserve. The Fed has struggled to wring that last stubborn bit of inflation out of our economy. Trump’s agenda, including fiscal stimulus in the form of tax cuts, will make this job harder. If price growth remains strong, this reduces the likelihood that the central bank will continue lowering interest rates.

    But Trump loves low interest rates. And now he has signaled plans to pressure the Fed into cutting rates, no matter what. As he told his audience at the World Economic Forum last week, he will “demand that interest rates drop immediately.” This will not help his cause, alas; if he succeeds in even appearing to arm-twist the Fed, that is likely to lead to even worse inflation outcomes. At least, that’s what’s happened when people in other countries believed that craven politicians, rather than independent technocrats, controlled the money supply.

    As I’ve said many times before, there isn’t much presidents can do to reduce inflation, whatever their promises. But there’s a lot they can do to make things worse.

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    Landslide! Mandate! Poop. 

    https://abcnews.go.com/538/trump-starts-term-weak-approval-rating/story?id=118146633

    Once again, Trump starts a term with a weak approval rating

    Most modern presidents were more popular at the start of their terms.




    What Americans think about Trump's plans | 538 Politics Podcast

    What do Americans want from Trump’s second term? The crew delves into this question, exploring thermostatic public opinion and Trump’s strategy of testing the waters on key issues.

    Today, 538 is unveiling a new polling average for President Donald Trump's job approval rating. Based on the 11 polls released since his inauguration on Jan. 20, Trump's average approval rating starts off at 50 percent, while 43 percent disapprove of the job he is doing as president. You can find a constantly updated estimate of Trump's approval rating on 538's polls page, and you can read our full methodology for calculating this average here.

    Trump's initial net approval rating of +7 percentage points is lower than that of any newly elected president since World War II, with one exception: Trump himself during his first term. Trump began his presidency in 2017 with a 44.6 percent approval rating and a 41.4 percent disapproval rating, based on applying our current averaging methodology retroactively. Before that, the record low for initial net approval rating was set by former President George W. Bush in 2001, at +28 points. However, former President Joe Biden started his first term at +22 in 2021.

    Trump faces a number of tailwinds and headwinds in his first month in office. His marquee executive order to deport immigrants who are in the country illegally and have been accused of crimes is broadly supported by the American public. And an Associated Press/NORC poll conducted earlier this month found a supermajority of adults support deporting immigrants "who have been convicted of a violent crime" — with higher support for immigrants who are here illegally (83 percent) versus those who are here legally (69 percent). There is also support for reducing the number of immigrants coming into America legally, finishing the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and declaring a national border emergency.

    But a number of Trump's early actions also have the potential to spark backlash. Pardoning the people who unlawfully entered the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and committed acts of violence is decidedly unpopular, for example, with just 21 percent of adults in favor, according to that AP/NORC poll. Withdrawing from international climate agreements is also generally unpopular, according to the same survey. And there's Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship, too; an Ipsos/New York Times poll from Jan. 2-10 found that Americans oppose ending birthright citizenship for children born to immigrants who are here illegally, 55 percent to 41 percent.

    Americans are also mostly not confident, according to the same AP/NORC poll, that Trump will be able to bring down the price of goods and services, such as groceries and health care. This is notable, as it's likely the biggest issue that convinced moderates to vote for him in the 2024 election. And there is only middling support for enacting tariffs on imports, with 29 percent in favor of a tax on all goods entering the U.S. — Trump's key economic proposal. Nonpartisan economists argue Trump's new tariffs would cause prices for the average American to rise, not fall. Tariffs would also likely curb the Biden-era rebound in manufacturing and house-building by increasing the cost of goods used in construction.


    While Trump's tax cuts are also mostly popular in isolation, the costs that come along with them (Republican legislators in Congress will mandate other programs, such as Medicare or Medicaid, be cut to offset the lost revenue) could be deeply unpopular. The lowest point in Trump's first-term approval, before his ratings cratered after the events of Jan. 6, came after Republicans tried to repeal the Affordable Care Act and reduce funding for Medicaid in 2017.

    Finally, Trump goes up against an apparent gravitational force that pulls down on approval ratings as time goes on. Presidents tend to enjoy their best net approval ratings at the start of their terms. Then, as policies are passed that shift the effective ideology of the U.S. government away from the ideology of the average voter, and as the president inevitably marginalizes members of his own constituency by focusing his political capital on other policy domains, voters leave the president's side and his approval rating dips. This has been a consistent pattern for the last 80 years, barring events in foreign wars or attacks on the homeland.

    But past patterns do not guarantee future results. It is possible that Trump will be viewed more favorably as time goes on. Maybe Americans will reward the president for his handling of the border, and he will end up jettisoning the less popular parts of his policy agenda as he did in 2017. He may also be rewarded for an economy that has largely healed from pandemic-induced inflation and labor-market tightness.

    For now, what we know is that Trump starts in a relatively weak position compared to past presidents. The only president he outscores is himself, from 2017. That is not likely to reassure the White House.

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,014
    wow....this press conference could be taking place in North Korea...really fucking weird softball setups for the pressSec to fawn over trump...all planned out no doubt
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    https://www.wsj.com/economy/u-s-consumers-lose-confidence-at-start-of-trump-second-term-0e48375b

    U.S. Consumers Lose Confidence at Start of Trump’s Second Term

    Conference Board’s index falls more than expected

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    Consumers expectations fell but remained above the threshold that usually signals a recession ahead the Conference Board said
    Consumers’ expectations fell but remained above the threshold that usually signals a recession ahead, the Conference Board said. PHOTO: BRANDON BELL/GETTY IMAGES

    Confidence among U.S. consumers weakened for a second-straight month, reflecting retreating optimism of both current and future conditions at the start of President Trump’s second term and expectations that inflation will rise again.

    The index of consumer sentiment published by the Conference Board, a research group, fell 5.4 points to 104.1, it said Tuesday, worse than the 106.0 expected by economists polled by The Wall Street Journal.

    The index measuring consumers’ expectations—based on their short-term outlook for income, business and labor-market conditions—fell but remained above the threshold that usually signals a recession ahead, the Conference Board said. Indeed, the proportion of consumers anticipating a recession over the next 12 months was stable near the series low, it noted.

    “Consumer confidence has been moving sideways in a relatively stable, narrow range since 2022. January was no exception,” said Dana M. Peterson, chief economist at the Conference Board.

    However, all five components used to compile the index declined on the month, with consumers’ assessments of their present situation leading the fall, and pessimism about future employment prospects returning. The fall in sentiment was led by consumers under 55 years old; those above 55 registered a small uptick in confidence, according to the data.

    The result shows consumers cautious about their future situation at the start of the new Trump administration. The cutoff date for the survey was Jan. 20, the date of Trump’s inauguration.

    Ahead of the Federal Reserve meeting this week, average year-ahead inflation expectations increased to 5.3% in January from 5.1% in December, according to the survey.

    Still, consumers notably remained bullish about the stock market, though slightly less than at the end of 2024. More than half of consumers expected stock prices to increase over the year ahead, Peterson said.

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