#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

Gern Blansten

Choccoloccotide said:

Kash Patel will make a great CIA director.  

https://x.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1856194300691841175/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1856194300691841175&currentTweetUser=The_Real_Fly

lol...how fitting is it that your link doesn't work

benjs

Choccoloccotide said:

Tim Simmons said:

Common Core is great. Sorry you can’t figure it out. 

You do realize the W. Bush administration are the ones who instituted Common Core.  I thought you guys hated everything Bush? 

What’s your point? Some have the ability to see good or bad regardless of party allegiance. Since Bush instituted it, has your opinion changed? 

Tim Simmons

Choccoloccotide said:

Gern Blansten said:

trump names Goebbels as deputy chief of staff for policy

His name is Stephen Miller and he’s a phenomenal pick.

If you hate brown people, sure. 

HughFreakingDillon

Choccoloccotide said:

Gern Blansten said:

Choccoloccotide said

Gern Blansten said:

trump names Goebbels as deputy chief of staff for policy

His name is Stephen Miller and he’s a phenomenal pick.

If you're a Nazi yes, he's the best.

Your name calling doesn’t work anymore.  Cry harder.

so you like nazis. good to know

Get_Right

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

All of the chatter about paid performances is a reminder of why I said the dems blew it. I believe even more criticism of the campaign is coming forward.

With respect to education, there is a reason parents send their kids to private schools, and there is a reason why real estate is more expensive in districts with the "best" public schools. I believe in the core curriculum, with adjustments as needed for certain kids. But I think the NY state regents exams are silly. A 3.8 student sometimes cannot pass a state administered standardized exam. That makes no sense. I think it comes down to how the town you live in invests in their schools. I know I moved away from New York City to a suburb I can barely afford to put my two kids in the best position to be supported and academically successful.  

And how much time do you invest in your kids’ school? PTA involvement? School board meetings? Talking to the principal to get placement with the “good” teachers? Advocating and assisting your kids when they might struggle or need assistance? How involved are you for not only yours but for other members of the community? How much do you invest in your schools?

Attend all board meetings, coach sports, fundraising events etc. Hosting reading sessions, milestone parties etc. when the kids were young. I invest more time and money than I have. But I have also moved to a place where I am totally impressed with the school leaders and teachers. It's not perfect, it lacks diversity. At the end of the day, you need to put your kids in the best possible environment, invest time and money, and hope it works out. It takes a village. And they happen to live down the street from me.

josevolution

So like we all knew all his court cases and even the conviction of the hush money case will be dismissed and has JCarrol received any payments? If she hasn’t I’d venture to say she’s shit out of luck, so getting elected can just make all your problems disappear! What a great country 

HughFreakingDillon

josevolution said:

So like we all knew all his court cases and even the conviction of the hush money case will be dismissed and has JCarrol received any payments? If she hasn’t I’d venture to say she’s shit out of luck, so getting elected can just make all your problems disappear! What a great country 

trump can't do shit about a civil case. 

JeBurkhardt

Go Beavers said:

Philly NJ said:

Tim Simmons said:

Philly NJ said:

Gern Blansten said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Gern Blansten said:

Philly NJ said:

Trump posted plans to move Education from DC  to the States. Great move. The US Department of Education has done more harm than good since its inception. And, please, get rid of Common Core. 

trump is a moron...I don't like this idea at all. The US Gov't has to be able to set standards that the states must meet. A state can't hold itself accountable.

In Canada education is a provincial (state) responsibility but I’m seeing a good argument for some sort of federal oversight or direction. An article I read pretty much contends that only 2 provinces and territories require a Canadian history credit to graduate high school (out of 13). Some semantics do get played with alternative history credit options but I would prefer a required course dedicated to a nation’s history with other electives available. The article found a troubling ignorance about this nation’s history in general.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-history-knowledge-poll-1.7377226

It's the same here...but the US Gov't oversees everything. trump wants to cut them out completely. I'm not clear what the theory is for people that support that. To me it just seems like it will weaken education.

trump's nazi coalition most likely sees it as a way to cut spending

and have little to nothing to show for it.

wtf does this even mean? what are we supposed to show? This is the most empty platitude I've ever read.

It means the DOE is a blotted bureaucracy that needs to be abolished given that the large amount of money allocated to it has not improved the education of Americans. If you think the DOE is fine as is, ok. But I am more than happy to see it go or at least revamped.

You should ask parents of kids with disabilities and teachers who work with them if the want the Ed Department to go away. 

THIS RIGHT HERE! Federal oversite of special education ensures that all special needs students in every State are given access to a quality education. Once States are no longer accountable to that guidance, you will see many, most likely the ones run by charter school loving anti public school legislators, cut way back on support and funding for special education.  

Halifax2TheMax

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

All of the chatter about paid performances is a reminder of why I said the dems blew it. I believe even more criticism of the campaign is coming forward.

With respect to education, there is a reason parents send their kids to private schools, and there is a reason why real estate is more expensive in districts with the "best" public schools. I believe in the core curriculum, with adjustments as needed for certain kids. But I think the NY state regents exams are silly. A 3.8 student sometimes cannot pass a state administered standardized exam. That makes no sense. I think it comes down to how the town you live in invests in their schools. I know I moved away from New York City to a suburb I can barely afford to put my two kids in the best position to be supported and academically successful.  

And how much time do you invest in your kids’ school? PTA involvement? School board meetings? Talking to the principal to get placement with the “good” teachers? Advocating and assisting your kids when they might struggle or need assistance? How involved are you for not only yours but for other members of the community? How much do you invest in your schools?

Attend all board meetings, coach sports, fundraising events etc. Hosting reading sessions, milestone parties etc. when the kids were young. I invest more time and money than I have. But I have also moved to a place where I am totally impressed with the school leaders and teachers. It's not perfect, it lacks diversity. At the end of the day, you need to put your kids in the best possible environment, invest time and money, and hope it works out. It takes a village. And they happen to live down the street from me.

How is an environment lacking diversity the “best possible environment?” Are your kids going to be adults and work in a “white only” world? Who lives down the street from you? The teachers/administrators?

Get_Right

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

All of the chatter about paid performances is a reminder of why I said the dems blew it. I believe even more criticism of the campaign is coming forward.

With respect to education, there is a reason parents send their kids to private schools, and there is a reason why real estate is more expensive in districts with the "best" public schools. I believe in the core curriculum, with adjustments as needed for certain kids. But I think the NY state regents exams are silly. A 3.8 student sometimes cannot pass a state administered standardized exam. That makes no sense. I think it comes down to how the town you live in invests in their schools. I know I moved away from New York City to a suburb I can barely afford to put my two kids in the best position to be supported and academically successful.  

And how much time do you invest in your kids’ school? PTA involvement? School board meetings? Talking to the principal to get placement with the “good” teachers? Advocating and assisting your kids when they might struggle or need assistance? How involved are you for not only yours but for other members of the community? How much do you invest in your schools?

Attend all board meetings, coach sports, fundraising events etc. Hosting reading sessions, milestone parties etc. when the kids were young. I invest more time and money than I have. But I have also moved to a place where I am totally impressed with the school leaders and teachers. It's not perfect, it lacks diversity. At the end of the day, you need to put your kids in the best possible environment, invest time and money, and hope it works out. It takes a village. And they happen to live down the street from me.

How is an environment lacking diversity the “best possible environment?” Are your kids going to be adults and work in a “white only” world? Who lives down the street from you? The teachers/administrators?

Resources. Teachers. Counselors. A robust curriculum. Clubs. After school support. Learning centers. AP classes for juniors if they can handle it. Constant communications with both parents. Healthy lunches. A proactive educational community. A Psychologist and even and MD on staff that gives a shit. More opportunities than we can even manage. Yes it is a privilege, but one we sacrifice for. Out of my pocket. But they do not live only in that world, in fact we kind of resist it. Not a the best culture, but the teachers are amazing and they foster growth. My kids are biracial and speak two languages. Who lives down the street from me? A former President and his wife who was a former Presidential candidate. Can you figure that out? 

And Edit: The DOE has little to with the quality of education in our town. So I could understand why some might take the position that it is unnecessary. 

Gern Blansten

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/11/politics/melania-trump-jill-biden/index.html

WashingtonCNN — 

Melania Trump is not expected to attend the traditional White House meeting with first lady Jill Biden, sources familiar with her plans said.
It’s a decision that underscores Melania Trump’s long-held willingness to buck tradition as she prepares to retake the high-profile – but unelected – role of first lady, one with no manual and an automatic global platform.
The sources cited a prior scheduling conflict for the former first lady related to her newly released memoir. One source said the decision had not been finalized.

This is the kind of crap that is so consistently irritating when a piece of shit like trump is elected...

hunterh75

Dave Abbruzzese is probably getting a chuckle knowing Ed and Jeff are beside themselves. 

HughFreakingDillon

hunterh75 said:

Dave Abbruzzese is probably getting a chuckle knowing Ed and Jeff are beside themselves. 

if you know anything about Dave A, he is firmly on the same political side as Ed and Jeff

Gern Blansten

Yeah Dave was very vocally anti trump

Lerxst1992

Choccoloccotide said:

Tim Simmons said:

With the way the votes have been rolling it. I wouldn't consider it a landslide. They kept saying it would be close and thats what it is. Its looking like 2% lead in the popular vote.

He swept all swing states, won control over the House, Senate, and Presidency.  He cut his previous 2020 deficits in all the blue states.  For example he only lost NJ by 5, Illinois was single digits, NY state deficit was cut in half as well as California.  There has been a shift in the electorate and dems still can’t understand why.  People are sick of being ignored.  Trumpism has given us a voice.

All true, but…if approximately one percent flip their votes next time in ONLY three states, you will welcoming the democrats back to the White House.

congrats on the win, but this is the problem with trump voters. They care more about winning than they do about helping the country.

pjl44

You can actually tie Stephen Miller to white nationalist thought which makes him one of the most pernicious members of Trump's inner circle. This is a lesson in crying wolf. When you're running around calling everyone to the right of AOC a racist or Nazi, it obscures the actual wolves.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/nov/12/trump-adviser-stephen-miller-white-nationalist-agenda-breitbart

Tim Simmons

hunterh75 said:

Dave Abbruzzese is probably getting a chuckle knowing Ed and Jeff are beside themselves. 

I'm sure the dude not in a band still selling out stadiums worldwide 35 years later is definitely getting a chuckle.

Tim Simmons

I mean, theres Trumpism in a nutshell. Nothing to do with governance, just making sure the people you don't like are owned and they know it. 

Its a beaten dog mentality. Now they only know how to bite. 

Get_Right

Lerxst1992 said:

Choccoloccotide said:

Tim Simmons said:

With the way the votes have been rolling it. I wouldn't consider it a landslide. They kept saying it would be close and thats what it is. Its looking like 2% lead in the popular vote.

He swept all swing states, won control over the House, Senate, and Presidency.  He cut his previous 2020 deficits in all the blue states.  For example he only lost NJ by 5, Illinois was single digits, NY state deficit was cut in half as well as California.  There has been a shift in the electorate and dems still can’t understand why.  People are sick of being ignored.  Trumpism has given us a voice.

All true, but…if approximately one percent flip their votes next time in ONLY three states, you will welcoming the democrats back to the White House.

congrats on the win, but this is the problem with trump voters. They care more about winning than they do about helping the country.

It is not just the problem with Trump voters. It is a problem with all voters in the middle. And, both sides care more about winning than helping the country. That is what US politics has come to, at every level. Win the middle win the election. Even for town council.

Tim Simmons

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