Harris vs Trump vs RFK Jr - VOTE NOW AND DISCUSS

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    Looking old, tired, senile and winded from the walk from the pooper to the podium at Mar-I-Lieo. POOTWH really should step down and let JD Byryder rally the republic.




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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,519
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,013
    Kamala Harris
    For those struggling with who to vote for, saw this post on facebook:

    I'm not gonna lie, watching the online discourse regarding the US election almost has be wanting to shut down my page.

    Here's the thing... I'm not American. I don't want to step foot in that country anymore. It's a fascist nation that's the single largest driving force behind capitalism ruining this planet.

    Both big politicical parties there are pro corporate, both are pro colonialist, both support active genocides. 

    Neither will save the US from itself.

    But I don't think US citizens understand the power dynamics at play in their own country.

    You're trapped in a 2 party system because mathematically, your electoral system will always strongly trend towards a 2 party system. The Electoral College, much like First Past the Post, is a winner-takes-all Plurality voting system... these systems are destined to entrench existing concentrations of power.

    I'm a far left anarchist. I don't think any of the Democratic party candidates are left leaning. They're not. They've all supported some horrible shit. Many of them are responsible for a whole lot of death.

    But here's the thing... if you're in the US, you're currently stuck in a trolley problem.

    You can try to convince yourself that both parties are equally bad... but the reality is, while they're both bad, one is far, far worse.

    All of the human rights protections the Republicans are trying to roll back... members of the other party wrote most of those. 

    Both sides are bad. One of those sides is celebrated by neonazis, the other is hated by them.

    The Democrats, as bad as they are, aren't courting neonazis.

    The US election also has effects across the globe. If a Republican government successfully rolls out the plans outlined in Project 2025, not only is it going to result in genocide on US soil, it's also going to result in them using the full force of the military industrial complex against anyone who disagrees with them.

    Like, this is what's at stake.

    Criticize the democrats all you want... they fucking deserve it... but if I was in the US I'd be voting Democrat WHILE cursing about how shit they are because, quite frankly, I don't want to see another world war, and I don't think the marginalized people in the US deserve to be the victims of an all out genocide on US soil.

    I'd vote that way, vomit in a trash can on the way out, and then I'd go right back to advocating for anticapitalism, antiracism, decolonization, disability rights, radical queer rights, anti-patriarchy, and anarchosocialism.

    I don't want nazis getting any more power than they already have, and neither should anyone else. I will use the means I have available to prevent it. For me, voting is part of that.

    If you're an American and you wanna vote 3rd party, or you don't wanna vote, that's fine... just please stop telling leftists they're bad leftists for trying to keep the candidate and party that is demonstrably far worse out of power.

    Call me a bad leftist if you like. I refuse to remain inactive in these kinds of bad vs worse trolley problems.

    That's a very excellent post, thank you!
    I recently read up on anarchy as proposed by the first person to refer to himself as an "anarchist". Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (1809-1865).  Proudhon's concept of anarchy has little or nothing to do with what we think of as punk rock anarchy (although that has its place too).   Proudhonian anarchy is meant to propose having a free society without government.  It encompasses strong ethical values and responsibility  that lend toward equality, cooperation, well being and care of the the land base that sustains us.
    As much as I stand by that philosophy, I also recognize that it is highly unlikely to become a predominant force in my life time.  So the words that person wrote that you quoted above make absolutely perfect sense to me.  Thank you for posting them!
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,506
    Kamala Harris
    pjhawks said:
    I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv 
    I want her to call him a liar and a felon in the debates. See his head explode and completely lose his shit.  How do you defeat a bully.  Punch him in the damn nose,  be aggressive against him
    biden called him a felon and a liar at the debate and it did not help him.

    but i agree. punch him in the nose and tattoo him with his record of lying, record as a failed president, and his criminal record.
    KH should def point out that he should keep MLK crowd size out of his mouth! She should say you’ve never ever gotten a crowd bigger than MLK at any of your rallies and def not on you Inauguration Day! That would be epic and he’d def lose it 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,506
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    He just decided to retire before deployment. Could have been coincidence? You would think that would have been vetted before he was selected or even when he ran for Governor but apparently not because Dems are really scrambling to justify or cover it up. They also have already changed the title from Kamala’s website about his profile. That tells me he’s probably wrong. 
    😂😂 funny your defending a total coward please tell me what honorable thing bone spurs himself has done? Hell he didn’t even want to be in Normandy or get out of his car because it was raining 😂😂 or how about not wanting soldiers who were wounded in battle to be around him? Go ahead stand side by side with a coward plus Kat just posted an answer for you! 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    edited August 10
    teskeinc said:
    He just decided to retire before deployment. Could have been coincidence? You would think that would have been vetted before he was selected or even when he ran for Governor but apparently not because Dems are really scrambling to justify or cover it up. They also have already changed the title from Kamala’s website about his profile. That tells me he’s probably wrong. 
    😂😂 funny your defending a total coward please tell me what honorable thing bone spurs himself has done? Hell he didn’t even want to be in Normandy or get out of his car because it was raining 😂😂 or how about not wanting soldiers who were wounded in battle to be around him? Go ahead stand side by side with a coward plus Kat just posted an answer for you! 
    There’s absolutely nothing in my post about Trump. Much like everyone else you are so consumed by Trump you see him in every post. Maybe Ozempic can cure your TDS?

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,506
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    He just decided to retire before deployment. Could have been coincidence? You would think that would have been vetted before he was selected or even when he ran for Governor but apparently not because Dems are really scrambling to justify or cover it up. They also have already changed the title from Kamala’s website about his profile. That tells me he’s probably wrong. 
    😂😂 funny your defending a total coward please tell me what honorable thing bone spurs himself has done? Hell he didn’t even want to be in Normandy or get out of his car because it was raining 😂😂 or how about not wanting soldiers who were wounded in battle to be around him? Go ahead stand side by side with a coward plus Kat just posted an answer for you! 
    There’s absolutely nothing in my post about Trump. Much like everyone else you are so consumed by Trump you see him in every post. Maybe Ozempic can cure your TDS?

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    Please keep telling us that while you vote for him! And I don’t give two 💩💩 about why they changed it, I’ll be voting democrat up & down the whole ballot because the alternative is garbage I’d never want to be associated it with! Maybe one day Republicans will come around to be decent humans at the present moment they stand with vile human and thinking of as human is being nice!! 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,519
    teskeinc said:

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    I understand you are all in aggressive online-hyperbole mode. But lol at calling it a lie.

    And they changed it because of people like you. What does that tell you?
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    teskeinc said:

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    I understand you are all in aggressive online-hyperbole mode. But lol at calling it a lie.

    And they changed it because of people like you. What does that tell you?
    Tells me he fabricated something and Dems had to scramble to hide and change it because they didn’t thoroughly vet him. 

    Trump dodged the draft because of bone spurs. He got ridiculed and still gets heat over it. 

    You own your record. I don’t blame Walz he probably knew Saddam didn’t have WMD and didn’t sign up for the Guard to serve in Iraq. I’d probably do the same, just don’t fabricate your title. 


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,506
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    I understand you are all in aggressive online-hyperbole mode. But lol at calling it a lie.

    And they changed it because of people like you. What does that tell you?
    Tells me he fabricated something and Dems had to scramble to hide and change it because they didn’t thoroughly vet him. 

    Trump dodged the draft because of bone spurs. He got ridiculed and still gets heat over it. 

    You own your record. I don’t blame Walz he probably knew Saddam didn’t have WMD and didn’t sign up for the Guard to serve in Iraq. I’d probably do the same, just don’t fabricate your title. 


    😂😂 who’s the king of fabricating facts? 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    I understand you are all in aggressive online-hyperbole mode. But lol at calling it a lie.

    And they changed it because of people like you. What does that tell you?
    Tells me he fabricated something and Dems had to scramble to hide and change it because they didn’t thoroughly vet him. 

    Trump dodged the draft because of bone spurs. He got ridiculed and still gets heat over it. 

    You own your record. I don’t blame Walz he probably knew Saddam didn’t have WMD and didn’t sign up for the Guard to serve in Iraq. I’d probably do the same, just don’t fabricate your title. 


    😂😂 who’s the king of fabricating facts? 
    Trump is King and Dictator of fabricating facts. But Kamala is ready to take on that challenge… unless you believe Joes golf handicap.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,548
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    I understand you are all in aggressive online-hyperbole mode. But lol at calling it a lie.

    And they changed it because of people like you. What does that tell you?
    Tells me he fabricated something and Dems had to scramble to hide and change it because they didn’t thoroughly vet him. 

    Trump dodged the draft because of bone spurs. He got ridiculed and still gets heat over it. 

    You own your record. I don’t blame Walz he probably knew Saddam didn’t have WMD and didn’t sign up for the Guard to serve in Iraq. I’d probably do the same, just don’t fabricate your title. 


    tells me the campaign didnt understand some of the nuance as it relates military/reservist ranking/retirement.

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,506
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    I understand you are all in aggressive online-hyperbole mode. But lol at calling it a lie.

    And they changed it because of people like you. What does that tell you?
    Tells me he fabricated something and Dems had to scramble to hide and change it because they didn’t thoroughly vet him. 

    Trump dodged the draft because of bone spurs. He got ridiculed and still gets heat over it. 

    You own your record. I don’t blame Walz he probably knew Saddam didn’t have WMD and didn’t sign up for the Guard to serve in Iraq. I’d probably do the same, just don’t fabricate your title. 


    😂😂 who’s the king of fabricating facts? 
    Trump is King and Dictator of fabricating facts. But Kamala is ready to take on that challenge… unless you believe Joes golf handicap.
    Weird but you really don’t see Old man golfing too much I do know the former wannabe dictator golf’s every chance he gets and did for most of his 1st and only term! 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    I understand you are all in aggressive online-hyperbole mode. But lol at calling it a lie.

    And they changed it because of people like you. What does that tell you?
    Tells me he fabricated something and Dems had to scramble to hide and change it because they didn’t thoroughly vet him. 

    Trump dodged the draft because of bone spurs. He got ridiculed and still gets heat over it. 

    You own your record. I don’t blame Walz he probably knew Saddam didn’t have WMD and didn’t sign up for the Guard to serve in Iraq. I’d probably do the same, just don’t fabricate your title. 


    😂😂 who’s the king of fabricating facts? 
    Trump is King and Dictator of fabricating facts. But Kamala is ready to take on that challenge… unless you believe Joes golf handicap.
    Weird but you really don’t see Old man golfing too much I do know the former wannabe dictator golf’s every chance he gets and did for most of his 1st and only term! 
    True, but he wasn’t working 10-4 with dinner and ice cream at 4:30 like Joe did either.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,506
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    I understand you are all in aggressive online-hyperbole mode. But lol at calling it a lie.

    And they changed it because of people like you. What does that tell you?
    Tells me he fabricated something and Dems had to scramble to hide and change it because they didn’t thoroughly vet him. 

    Trump dodged the draft because of bone spurs. He got ridiculed and still gets heat over it. 

    You own your record. I don’t blame Walz he probably knew Saddam didn’t have WMD and didn’t sign up for the Guard to serve in Iraq. I’d probably do the same, just don’t fabricate your title. 


    😂😂 who’s the king of fabricating facts? 
    Trump is King and Dictator of fabricating facts. But Kamala is ready to take on that challenge… unless you believe Joes golf handicap.
    Weird but you really don’t see Old man golfing too much I do know the former wannabe dictator golf’s every chance he gets and did for most of his 1st and only term! 
    True, but he wasn’t working 10-4 with dinner and ice cream at 4:30 like Joe did either.
    So what the point is trumpollini worked maybe two hours a day if that and only if he could use sharpies to draw on maps 😂😂 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    I understand you are all in aggressive online-hyperbole mode. But lol at calling it a lie.

    And they changed it because of people like you. What does that tell you?
    Tells me he fabricated something and Dems had to scramble to hide and change it because they didn’t thoroughly vet him. 

    Trump dodged the draft because of bone spurs. He got ridiculed and still gets heat over it. 

    You own your record. I don’t blame Walz he probably knew Saddam didn’t have WMD and didn’t sign up for the Guard to serve in Iraq. I’d probably do the same, just don’t fabricate your title. 


    😂😂 who’s the king of fabricating facts? 
    Trump is King and Dictator of fabricating facts. But Kamala is ready to take on that challenge… unless you believe Joes golf handicap.
    Weird but you really don’t see Old man golfing too much I do know the former wannabe dictator golf’s every chance he gets and did for most of his 1st and only term! 
    True, but he wasn’t working 10-4 with dinner and ice cream at 4:30 like Joe did either.
    No, POOTWH was working 11-2, the rest of the time tweeting, golfing and pooping.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,083
    teskeinc said:
    I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv 
    Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.
    Why did Donald Trump kill the bipartisan, most conservative in decades, border bill? Easy retort...even you cannot answer it (as I have given you multiple attempts by this point).

    Kamala would sign that bill into law and protect our borders. Donald Trump wants the borders wide open for his own political gain because he knows people like you are not paying attention. 
    On both the economy and the border, Harris can pretty much flip both to point out his failures in each category. 
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    teskeinc said:
    I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv 
    Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.
    Why did Donald Trump kill the bipartisan, most conservative in decades, border bill? Easy retort...even you cannot answer it (as I have given you multiple attempts by this point).

    Kamala would sign that bill into law and protect our borders. Donald Trump wants the borders wide open for his own political gain because he knows people like you are not paying attention. 
    On both the economy and the border, Harris can pretty much flip both to point out his failures in each category. 
    Inflation is 20% since 2021. Over 10 million have illegally crossed as well. How do you flip that? Polls show overwhelmingly on who handles both issues better and it’s Trump, not even close. The last thing the Dems want to talk about are those issues. That’s why Dems pivot to abortion, always a win for them.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,083
    edited August 10
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:

    Kamalas site had to change Tampon Tim’s title because he lied about it. What does that tell you?
    I understand you are all in aggressive online-hyperbole mode. But lol at calling it a lie.

    And they changed it because of people like you. What does that tell you?
    Tells me he fabricated something and Dems had to scramble to hide and change it because they didn’t thoroughly vet him. 

    Trump dodged the draft because of bone spurs. He got ridiculed and still gets heat over it. 

    You own your record. I don’t blame Walz he probably knew Saddam didn’t have WMD and didn’t sign up for the Guard to serve in Iraq. I’d probably do the same, just don’t fabricate your title. 


    Trump’s dad said he got a doctor to do him a favor and make up that he had bone spurs. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv 
    Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.
    Why did Donald Trump kill the bipartisan, most conservative in decades, border bill? Easy retort...even you cannot answer it (as I have given you multiple attempts by this point).

    Kamala would sign that bill into law and protect our borders. Donald Trump wants the borders wide open for his own political gain because he knows people like you are not paying attention. 
    On both the economy and the border, Harris can pretty much flip both to point out his failures in each category. 
    Inflation is 20% since 2021. Over 10 million have illegally crossed as well. How do you flip that? Polls show overwhelmingly on who handles both issues better and it’s Trump, not even close. The last thing the Dems want to talk about are those issues. That’s why Dems pivot to abortion, always a win for them.
    Polls often times don’t reflect reality. Something POOTWH supporters aren’t living in.
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv 
    Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.
    Why did Donald Trump kill the bipartisan, most conservative in decades, border bill? Easy retort...even you cannot answer it (as I have given you multiple attempts by this point).

    Kamala would sign that bill into law and protect our borders. Donald Trump wants the borders wide open for his own political gain because he knows people like you are not paying attention. 
    On both the economy and the border, Harris can pretty much flip both to point out his failures in each category. 
    Inflation is 20% since 2021. Over 10 million have illegally crossed as well. How do you flip that? Polls show overwhelmingly on who handles both issues better and it’s Trump, not even close. The last thing the Dems want to talk about are those issues. That’s why Dems pivot to abortion, always a win for them.
    Polls often times don’t reflect reality. Something POOTWH supporters aren’t living in.
    The reality is Inflation is +20% since Biden/Harris took office. Gas prices are significantly higher, interest rates are 3x higher, 10+ million illegals have crossed the border under their watch. Wars were started in Ukraine and Gaza under Biden/Harris. 

    Emotional voters (90% here) are looking for a friend in a President. You can spin all those statistics if you want and blame Trump but all that was under Biden/Harris. If they did a great job, Biden would have been a shoe in like Obama in 2012. Reality is they did a terrible job, that’s why the race is tight.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,497
    pjhawks said:
    I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv 
    I want her to call him a liar and a felon in the debates. See his head explode and completely lose his shit.  How do you defeat a bully.  Punch him in the damn nose,  be aggressive against him
    I just hope he brings up the talking point he occasionally uses about Democrats wanting convicted felons to vote so that she can reply, "That's right, Donald, we do support your right to vote."
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,069
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    Kamala Harris
    Gas Prices are higher because they were at 20 year lows because of Covid. No one was buying gas. Gas prices are averaging what they were a decade ago. 

    10million illegal crossings but also 4.5m deportations. More than any president since Bush.

    the wars are proxy wars, our military are not active in any war for the first time in over 20 years. 


    At least be intellectually honest about it
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,069
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    Kamala Harris
    Also, gonna need you back up that stat that 90% of posters here are “emotional”. 

    You make very bizarre generalizations.
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    Gas Prices are higher because they were at 20 year lows because of Covid. No one was buying gas. 

    10million illegal crossings but also 4.5m deportations. More than any president since Bush.

    the wars are proxy wars, we are not active in any war for the first time in over 25 years. 


    At least be intellectually honest about it
    Keep on spinning buddy! Maddow should have you as a special guest!
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,069
    Kamala Harris
    Facts are spin now? 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,069
    Kamala Harris
    Also, again with the weird generalizations. Maddow is your parry?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,506
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    Gas Prices are higher because they were at 20 year lows because of Covid. No one was buying gas. 

    10million illegal crossings but also 4.5m deportations. More than any president since Bush.

    the wars are proxy wars, we are not active in any war for the first time in over 25 years. 


    At least be intellectually honest about it
    Keep on spinning buddy! Maddow should have you as a special guest!
    You should work for the Trump team you fit perfectly! Better than what he has doing his PR these days 😂 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Kamala Harris
    Only morons call facts “spin”. 
    and the smart morons have "alternative facts".
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