Harris vs Trump vs RFK Jr - VOTE NOW AND DISCUSS

gimmesometruth27 · August 9

Kamala Harris

josevolution said:

teskeinc said:

But Kamala is going to wipe the stage, right. Why debate.

lol what policy will he put forward?
Fix the border lol she will point out that he’s the one that killed the bill, abortion he’s the one who took away women’s right to reproductive healthcare, American hostages how many did he free! Healthcare for all Americans his idiot base is still waiting for the best healthcare plan to ever been implemented! I believe she will mop the floor with his old decrepit feces filled diaper wearing wind bag!

the only thing you forgot is that joe finally got infrastructure week done.

also covid response.

his record is such a disaster it will be easy for a prosecuting attorney to pick him apart.

josevolution · August 9

Kamala Harris

gimmesometruth27 said:

josevolution said:

teskeinc said:

But Kamala is going to wipe the stage, right. Why debate.

lol what policy will he put forward?
Fix the border lol she will point out that he’s the one that killed the bill, abortion he’s the one who took away women’s right to reproductive healthcare, American hostages how many did he free! Healthcare for all Americans his idiot base is still waiting for the best healthcare plan to ever been implemented! I believe she will mop the floor with his old decrepit feces filled diaper wearing wind bag!

the only thing you forgot is that joe finally got infrastructure week done.

also covid response.

his record is such a disaster it will be easy for a prosecuting attorney to pick him apart.

Touché

josevolution · August 9

Kamala Harris

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

darwinstheory · August 10

Kamala Harris

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

Based on yesterday, I think we can agree that has already happened.

Halifax2TheMax · August 10

It’s going to be closer than you think and we haven’t even gotten to the shenanigans yet. From WaPo:

In 2020, Joe Biden won the national popular vote for president by 4.5 percentage points, a seemingly safe margin that should have easily put him in the White House. But under the hood, the presidential race was extremely close. In fact, if just 42,000 votes in three battleground states — Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin — had gone differently, Biden would have lost his electoral vote majority.

.00028 can decide who sits in the oval.

BF25394 · August 10

Poncier said:

Gern Blansten said:

Harris is +31 among 18-29 years olds....game over

So 119 of the 150 18-29 yr. olds who actually turn out and vote will vote for Harris.

Voter turnout for that age cohort in 2020 was 55 percent, as high as it has been since 1972.

mickeyrat · August 10

poll junkies , nate silver on todays bulwark podcast....

teskeinc · August 10

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.

benjs · August 10

teskeinc said:

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.

Shame he’s not competent, coherent, knowledgeable or rigorous enough to prove a debate threat.

The Juggler · August 10

Kamala Harris

teskeinc said:

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.

Why did Donald Trump kill the bipartisan, most conservative in decades, border bill? Easy retort...even you cannot answer it (as I have given you multiple attempts by this point).

Kamala would sign that bill into law and protect our borders. Donald Trump wants the borders wide open for his own political gain because he knows people like you are not paying attention.

Lerxst1992 · August 10

teskeinc said:

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.

They had a deal on the border a year ago, something that your guy vetoed to score political points

One minute it will take to make your point look like a complete lie.

so sleepy joe did it on his own, and crossings are down 50%. Next.

teskeinc · August 10

😂😂😂 No, it was me who killed the bi-partisan bill. Johnson is a friend of mine, I told him to axe it. My bad.

teskeinc · August 10

benjs said:

teskeinc said:

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.

Shame he’s not competent, coherent, knowledgeable or rigorous enough to prove a debate threat.

You saw the last debate? The one where he beat Joe Biden so brutally that Pelosi and Clooney had to replace him? Just sit back and do as your told. Don’t get too comfortable with Kamala, they might choose someone else if she drops in the polls in the next couple of weeks. Tampon Tim is struggling to defend why he retired 2 years early when he was called for deployment to Iraq too.

HughFreakingDillon · August 10

Kamala Harris

Someone claiming a guy who WAS IN THE MILITARY but retired TWO FULL YEARS BEFORE AN ACTIVE DEPLOYMENT to run for congress is somehow a coward for doing so, is a disgrace to your vets.

HughFreakingDillon · August 10

Kamala Harris

For those struggling with who to vote for, saw this post on facebook:

I'm not gonna lie, watching the online discourse regarding the US election almost has be wanting to shut down my page.

Here's the thing... I'm not American. I don't want to step foot in that country anymore. It's a fascist nation that's the single largest driving force behind capitalism ruining this planet.

Both big politicical parties there are pro corporate, both are pro colonialist, both support active genocides.

Neither will save the US from itself.

But I don't think US citizens understand the power dynamics at play in their own country.

You're trapped in a 2 party system because mathematically, your electoral system will always strongly trend towards a 2 party system. The Electoral College, much like First Past the Post, is a winner-takes-all Plurality voting system... these systems are destined to entrench existing concentrations of power.

I'm a far left anarchist. I don't think any of the Democratic party candidates are left leaning. They're not. They've all supported some horrible shit. Many of them are responsible for a whole lot of death.

But here's the thing... if you're in the US, you're currently stuck in a trolley problem.

You can try to convince yourself that both parties are equally bad... but the reality is, while they're both bad, one is far, far worse.

All of the human rights protections the Republicans are trying to roll back... members of the other party wrote most of those.

Both sides are bad. One of those sides is celebrated by neonazis, the other is hated by them.

The Democrats, as bad as they are, aren't courting neonazis.

The US election also has effects across the globe. If a Republican government successfully rolls out the plans outlined in Project 2025, not only is it going to result in genocide on US soil, it's also going to result in them using the full force of the military industrial complex against anyone who disagrees with them.

Like, this is what's at stake.

Criticize the democrats all you want... they fucking deserve it... but if I was in the US I'd be voting Democrat WHILE cursing about how shit they are because, quite frankly, I don't want to see another world war, and I don't think the marginalized people in the US deserve to be the victims of an all out genocide on US soil.

I'd vote that way, vomit in a trash can on the way out, and then I'd go right back to advocating for anticapitalism, antiracism, decolonization, disability rights, radical queer rights, anti-patriarchy, and anarchosocialism.

I don't want nazis getting any more power than they already have, and neither should anyone else. I will use the means I have available to prevent it. For me, voting is part of that.

If you're an American and you wanna vote 3rd party, or you don't wanna vote, that's fine... just please stop telling leftists they're bad leftists for trying to keep the candidate and party that is demonstrably far worse out of power.

Call me a bad leftist if you like. I refuse to remain inactive in these kinds of bad vs worse trolley problems.

Tim Simmons · August 10

Kamala Harris

teskeinc said:

😂😂😂 No, it was me who killed the bi-partisan bill. Johnson is a friend of mine, I told him to axe it. My bad.

Ok then, who did kill the bipartisan immigration bill?

njhaley1 · August 10

Kamala Harris

HughFreakingDillon said:

Someone claiming a guy who WAS IN THE MILITARY but retired TWO FULL YEARS BEFORE AN ACTIVE DEPLOYMENT to run for congress is somehow a coward for doing so, is a disgrace to your vets.

1) it was 3mos before his unit was called up, but your point still stands
https://apnews.com/article/walz-national-guard-military-ae43d684bf1319e535f9f620552155d7

2) after 24yrs of service he can retire whenever he damn well pleases. Military service isn't a prison sentence, it's a volunteer army and he served 24yrs longer than 95% of Americans including the dipsh*t you replied to, 20yrs longer than the other candidate, and 4yrs longer than my dad who was a career Naval officer.

Not that any of this is a goddamned competition. Service is service and the only one TFG serves is HIMSELF.

HughFreakingDillon · August 10

Kamala Harris

Exactly

Halifax2TheMax · August 10

HughFreakingDillon said:

For those struggling with who to vote for, saw this post on facebook:

I'm not gonna lie, watching the online discourse regarding the US election almost has be wanting to shut down my page.

Here's the thing... I'm not American. I don't want to step foot in that country anymore. It's a fascist nation that's the single largest driving force behind capitalism ruining this planet.

Both big politicical parties there are pro corporate, both are pro colonialist, both support active genocides.

Neither will save the US from itself.

But I don't think US citizens understand the power dynamics at play in their own country.

You're trapped in a 2 party system because mathematically, your electoral system will always strongly trend towards a 2 party system. The Electoral College, much like First Past the Post, is a winner-takes-all Plurality voting system... these systems are destined to entrench existing concentrations of power.

I'm a far left anarchist. I don't think any of the Democratic party candidates are left leaning. They're not. They've all supported some horrible shit. Many of them are responsible for a whole lot of death.

But here's the thing... if you're in the US, you're currently stuck in a trolley problem.

You can try to convince yourself that both parties are equally bad... but the reality is, while they're both bad, one is far, far worse.

All of the human rights protections the Republicans are trying to roll back... members of the other party wrote most of those.

Both sides are bad. One of those sides is celebrated by neonazis, the other is hated by them.

The Democrats, as bad as they are, aren't courting neonazis.

The US election also has effects across the globe. If a Republican government successfully rolls out the plans outlined in Project 2025, not only is it going to result in genocide on US soil, it's also going to result in them using the full force of the military industrial complex against anyone who disagrees with them.

Like, this is what's at stake.

Criticize the democrats all you want... they fucking deserve it... but if I was in the US I'd be voting Democrat WHILE cursing about how shit they are because, quite frankly, I don't want to see another world war, and I don't think the marginalized people in the US deserve to be the victims of an all out genocide on US soil.

I'd vote that way, vomit in a trash can on the way out, and then I'd go right back to advocating for anticapitalism, antiracism, decolonization, disability rights, radical queer rights, anti-patriarchy, and anarchosocialism.

I don't want nazis getting any more power than they already have, and neither should anyone else. I will use the means I have available to prevent it. For me, voting is part of that.

If you're an American and you wanna vote 3rd party, or you don't wanna vote, that's fine... just please stop telling leftists they're bad leftists for trying to keep the candidate and party that is demonstrably far worse out of power.

Call me a bad leftist if you like. I refuse to remain inactive in these kinds of bad vs worse trolley problems.

Hope the author wears a mask.

benjs · August 10

teskeinc said:

benjs said:

teskeinc said:

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.

Shame he’s not competent, coherent, knowledgeable or rigorous enough to prove a debate threat.

You saw the last debate? The one where he beat Joe Biden so brutally that Pelosi and Clooney had to replace him? Just sit back and do as your told. Don’t get too comfortable with Kamala, they might choose someone else if she drops in the polls in the next couple of weeks. Tampon Tim is struggling to defend why he retired 2 years early when he was called for deployment to Iraq too.

Thanks, but I would never take advice from someone as disingenuous and/or brainwashed as you.

Yes, I saw the debate, and talked about how terribly Biden did. That doesn’t mean Trump was coherent, knowledgeable, or rigorously on-message at that debate. Harris is sharp, informed, and clear enough to demonstrate that Trump is a washed-out, self-serving moron.

As for the Pelosi and Clooney ‘jab’, I don’t really care if strings were pulled and a better candidate was selected, or if it was Biden’s decision. Either way, Democrats are more poised to win now, and your side is the one with an old and incompetent candidate. Have fun with that!

mickeyrat · August 10

teskeinc said:

benjs said:

teskeinc said:

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.

Shame he’s not competent, coherent, knowledgeable or rigorous enough to prove a debate threat.

You saw the last debate? The one where he beat Joe Biden so brutally that Pelosi and Clooney had to replace him? Just sit back and do as your told. Don’t get too comfortable with Kamala, they might choose someone else if she drops in the polls in the next couple of weeks. Tampon Tim is struggling to defend why he retired 2 years early when he was called for deployment to Iraq too.

2 years early? wtf are you on about? after 24 yrs. typical careers are 20, 30, 40 . not 26.

he ran for congress and won in a red seat that flipped back red once he became governor

RunIntoTheRain · August 10

Kamala Harris

Why oh why do ya’ll keep engaging with the troll?

darwinstheory · August 10

Kamala Harris

RunIntoTheRain said:

Why oh why do ya’ll keep engaging with the troll?

Wondering the same thing.

gimmesometruth27 · August 10

Kamala Harris

The Juggler said:

teskeinc said:

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

Trump rambles the same thing every debate. If he were to just hammer Kamala on the border and economy for 90 minutes she would be in trouble. But you know he can’t, he will go off on his tangents, tell a few lies and exaggerations like he did vs Biden.

Why did Donald Trump kill the bipartisan, most conservative in decades, border bill? Easy retort...even you cannot answer it (as I have given you multiple attempts by this point).

Kamala would sign that bill into law and protect our borders. Donald Trump wants the borders wide open for his own political gain because he knows people like you are not paying attention.

except trump would say he had nothing to do with killing the bill and maga would believe him.

pjhawks · August 10

Kamala Harris

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

I want her to call him a liar and a felon in the debates. See his head explode and completely lose his shit. How do you defeat a bully. Punch him in the damn nose, be aggressive against him

teskeinc · August 10

njhaley1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Someone claiming a guy who WAS IN THE MILITARY but retired TWO FULL YEARS BEFORE AN ACTIVE DEPLOYMENT to run for congress is somehow a coward for doing so, is a disgrace to your vets.

1) it was 3mos before his unit was called up, but your point still stands
https://apnews.com/article/walz-national-guard-military-ae43d684bf1319e535f9f620552155d7

2) after 24yrs of service he can retire whenever he damn well pleases. Military service isn't a prison sentence, it's a volunteer army and he served 24yrs longer than 95% of Americans including the dipsh*t you replied to, 20yrs longer than the other candidate, and 4yrs longer than my dad who was a career Naval officer.

Not that any of this is a goddamned competition. Service is service and the only one TFG serves is HIMSELF.

Of course he can and be thanked for his service. Issue is he used a rank he would have received if he had stayed until full retirement. Many say he dodged the deployment to Iraq. He didn’t have bone spurs to my knowledge.

teskeinc · August 10

Tim Simmons said:

teskeinc said:

😂😂😂 No, it was me who killed the bi-partisan bill. Johnson is a friend of mine, I told him to axe it. My bad.

Ok then, who did kill the bipartisan immigration bill?

The 6 Democrats that didn’t vote for it either? Maybe they are closet MAGA tho?

gimmesometruth27 · August 10

Kamala Harris

pjhawks said:

josevolution said:

I’m just hoping she doesn’t fumble the debate she has to make him own all his disasters and make him come unhinged on live tv

I want her to call him a liar and a felon in the debates. See his head explode and completely lose his shit. How do you defeat a bully. Punch him in the damn nose, be aggressive against him

biden called him a felon and a liar at the debate and it did not help him.

but i agree. punch him in the nose and tattoo him with his record of lying, record as a failed president, and his criminal record.

Kat · August 10

This may help. There are images of the documents on multiple posts. Seems like any attempts at swift-boating him will not succeed.

Stolen Valor @StolenValor1

I received a partial follow up on the NGB22. After the NGB22 was issued, he was “Administratively” reduced for not completing the required educational requirements.

So he did hold the rank of CSM, but was subsequently reduced for this reason and receives retired pay for the rank of MSG. There were no disciplinary reasons for the reduction.

According to the PAO for the Minnesota National Guard, they said it is legitimate for Walz to say he served as a CSM. They said the rank changed because Walz retired before completing coursework at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy along with other requirements associated with his promotion.

As far as deployments, I am awaiting more records but it doesn’t seem he deployed to a combat zone during his service. Will follow up when I have more information.

https://x.com/StolenValor1/status/1820863640242684021

teskeinc · August 10

He just decided to retire before deployment. Could have been coincidence? You would think that would have been vetted before he was selected or even when he ran for Governor but apparently not because Dems are really scrambling to justify or cover it up. They also have already changed the title from Kamala’s website about his profile. That tells me he’s probably wrong.

Harris vs Trump vs RFK Jr - VOTE NOW AND DISCUSS

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