Harris vs Trump vs RFK Jr - VOTE NOW AND DISCUSS

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,911


    Harris is +31 among 18-29 years olds....game over
    So 119 of the 150 18-29 yr. olds who actually turn out and vote will vote for Harris. 
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672
    Kamala Harris
    The polls are encouraging, but what parts of the country are they from?  Battleground states?  Unfortunately the electoral college can wash away any sway of key demographics if they're not concentrated in areas that affect electoral votes.  For the record, the electoral college can eat me.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,014
    Kamala Harris
    The polls are encouraging, but what parts of the country are they from?  Battleground states?  Unfortunately the electoral college can wash away any sway of key demographics if they're not concentrated in areas that affect electoral votes.  For the record, the electoral college can eat me.

    Well said, GKC.  We really have to be careful about being overconfident.  Look what happened in 2016.  When people get over confident, they get lazy.  "Harris has it in the bag and I've got tickets for that show in Rochester.  No sweat!"

    Sweat.  It ain't over. 

    A f*ck that electoral college!
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672
    edited August 7
    Kamala Harris
    brianlux said:
    The polls are encouraging, but what parts of the country are they from?  Battleground states?  Unfortunately the electoral college can wash away any sway of key demographics if they're not concentrated in areas that affect electoral votes.  For the record, the electoral college can eat me.

    Well said, GKC.  We really have to be careful about being overconfident.  Look what happened in 2016.  When people get over confident, they get lazy.  "Harris has it in the bag and I've got tickets for that show in Rochester.  No sweat!"

    Sweat.  It ain't over. 

    A f*ck that electoral college!
    I still remember walking out of the polling location in 2016 with my wife and her asking me "what does it feel like to vote for the first female president of the United States?"  It's absolute bull shit the popular vote doesn't decide the election, but it's one of many "traditions" the right wants to hold onto.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,014
    Kamala Harris
    brianlux said:
    The polls are encouraging, but what parts of the country are they from?  Battleground states?  Unfortunately the electoral college can wash away any sway of key demographics if they're not concentrated in areas that affect electoral votes.  For the record, the electoral college can eat me.

    Well said, GKC.  We really have to be careful about being overconfident.  Look what happened in 2016.  When people get over confident, they get lazy.  "Harris has it in the bag and I've got tickets for that show in Rochester.  No sweat!"

    Sweat.  It ain't over. 

    A f*ck that electoral college!
    I still remember walking out of the polling location in 2016 with my wife and her asking me "what does it feel like to vote for the first female president of the United States?"  It's absolute bull shit the popular vote doesn't decide the election, but it's one of many "traditions" the right wants to hold onto.


    I hear you!  It's hugely frustrating to allow a handful of states living in the past to control the entire nation.  Like you say, utter bull shit.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,548


    Harris is +31 among 18-29 years olds....game over

    as long as everyone votes.
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672
    edited August 7
    Kamala Harris
    Per the Marist Poll.  I don't see mention of the geographic regions these data points were collected. 

    Nature of the Sample: NPR/PBS News/Marist Poll of 1,613 National Adults

    This survey of 1,613 adults was conducted August 1st through August 4th, 2024 by the Marist Poll sponsored in partnership with NPR and PBS News. Adults 18 years of age and older residing in the United States were contacted through a multi-mode design: By phone using live interviewers, by text, or online. The sampling frames include RDD plus listed landline, RDD cell phone sample plus cell phone sample based on billing address to account for inward and outward mobility, and aggregated online research panels. Survey questions were available in English or Spanish. Phone and online samples were selected to ensure that each region was represented in proportion to its adult population. The samples were then combined and balanced to reflect the 2022 American Community Survey 5-year estimates for age, gender, income, race, and region. Results are statistically significant within ±3.3 percentage points. There are 1,513 registered voters. The results for this subset are statistically significant within ±3.4 percentage points. There are 1,309 registered voters who definitely plan to vote in November’s general election. The results for this subset are statistically significant within ±3.7 percentage points. There are 717 Democrats and Democratic leaning independents. The results for this subset are statistically significant within ±4.9 percentage points. Tables include results for subgroups to only display crosstabs with an acceptable sampling error. It should be noted that although you may not see results listed for a certain group, it does not mean interviews were not completed with those individuals. It simply means the sample size is too small to report. The error margin was adjusted for sample weights and increases for cross-tabulations.

    https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/the-2024-presidential-contest-august-2024/
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,245
    Donald Trump
    brianlux said:
    The polls are encouraging, but what parts of the country are they from?  Battleground states?  Unfortunately the electoral college can wash away any sway of key demographics if they're not concentrated in areas that affect electoral votes.  For the record, the electoral college can eat me.

    Well said, GKC.  We really have to be careful about being overconfident.  Look what happened in 2016.  When people get over confident, they get lazy.  "Harris has it in the bag and I've got tickets for that show in Rochester.  No sweat!"

    Sweat.  It ain't over. 

    A f*ck that electoral college!
    I still remember walking out of the polling location in 2016 with my wife and her asking me "what does it feel like to vote for the first female president of the United States?"  It's absolute bull shit the popular vote doesn't decide the election, but it's one of many "traditions" the right wants to hold onto.

    But let's remember why...the Comey letter came out and the polling didn't have time to address that. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    Any poll within the margin of error shouldn’t be considered the likely outcome.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,904
    Kamala Harris
    The polls are encouraging, but what parts of the country are they from?  Battleground states?  Unfortunately the electoral college can wash away any sway of key demographics if they're not concentrated in areas that affect electoral votes.  For the record, the electoral college can eat me.
    Battleground states are essentially tied...after Trump lead mostly by 3-5% a few weeks ago. 
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    Kamala Harris
    Old people vote.

    It's great that Harris is polling well/ better with young people, and it's great that more young people are voting.  But "more young people" is not the same as "all young people" or even "most young people." And making a TikTok =/= voting.

    The only polls that matter are the ones looking at battleground states -- and even then, the only poll that really matters is the one that happens at the ballot box.

    How did it feel in 2016 to vote for a woman? It felt great -- until it felt like I'd been punched in the stomach. I went out the next day, numb with lack of sleep, and I swear I'm not being melodramatic when I say that I encountered a few men who had to shake their fists at me and declare their dominance; given where I was living, that was both weird and unsettling.

    Brian, I think Elissa Slotkin is a strong candidate and I expect her to win in Michigan, where I'm pleasantly surprised to see that voters have not been afraid to vote for female candidates. Slotkin has the backing of people like Liz Cheney so she should have pretty broad support from moderates, Dems, and old-school conservatives who hate the orange guy. I think Newsom's broader point is that maintaining control of the Senate will be essential if the orange menace wins -- clearly we can't count on the courts to rein him in, so we must look to Congress. Jon Tester and Sherrod Brown are at risk. I think the broader point is that if you're thinking about donating money to congressional races, Adam Schiff, who should win handily, doesn't need your cash, but Slotkin, Brown, Tester might need the help.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,014
    Kamala Harris
    Old people vote.

    It's great that Harris is polling well/ better with young people, and it's great that more young people are voting.  But "more young people" is not the same as "all young people" or even "most young people." And making a TikTok =/= voting.

    The only polls that matter are the ones looking at battleground states -- and even then, the only poll that really matters is the one that happens at the ballot box.

    How did it feel in 2016 to vote for a woman? It felt great -- until it felt like I'd been punched in the stomach. I went out the next day, numb with lack of sleep, and I swear I'm not being melodramatic when I say that I encountered a few men who had to shake their fists at me and declare their dominance; given where I was living, that was both weird and unsettling.

    Brian, I think Elissa Slotkin is a strong candidate and I expect her to win in Michigan, where I'm pleasantly surprised to see that voters have not been afraid to vote for female candidates. Slotkin has the backing of people like Liz Cheney so she should have pretty broad support from moderates, Dems, and old-school conservatives who hate the orange guy. I think Newsom's broader point is that maintaining control of the Senate will be essential if the orange menace wins -- clearly we can't count on the courts to rein him in, so we must look to Congress. Jon Tester and Sherrod Brown are at risk. I think the broader point is that if you're thinking about donating money to congressional races, Adam Schiff, who should win handily, doesn't need your cash, but Slotkin, Brown, Tester might need the help.

    Excellent points, C.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,597
    Kamala Harris
    Re: young people not voting - not as big of a problem as it used to be, but still a big problem.

    I just don't get it. It's not like my parents were big politicos or whatever, and I certainly learned some not-so-great things that I had to recover from, but I always was taught it's important to vote and make your voice heard. I was registered right when I turned 18. Not super proud of some of my young-years votes but I at least showed up. I mean, seriously, you are over 18 and you're not voting?!?!? And then to complain about whoever gets elected - just shut the hell up already.
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672
    edited August 7
    Kamala Harris
    Re: young people not voting - not as big of a problem as it used to be, but still a big problem.

    I just don't get it. It's not like my parents were big politicos or whatever, and I certainly learned some not-so-great things that I had to recover from, but I always was taught it's important to vote and make your voice heard. I was registered right when I turned 18. Not super proud of some of my young-years votes but I at least showed up. I mean, seriously, you are over 18 and you're not voting?!?!? And then to complain about whoever gets elected - just shut the hell up already.
    Yeah I wish I could get in a time machine and tell my 18 and 22-year old self to have voted differently.  I didn't truly start understanding my core values lined up with the left until after 2004.  At least I voted though.  It's even hard to know how many in the poll will actually vote.

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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,808
    Kamala Harris
    Re: young people not voting - not as big of a problem as it used to be, but still a big problem.

    I just don't get it. It's not like my parents were big politicos or whatever, and I certainly learned some not-so-great things that I had to recover from, but I always was taught it's important to vote and make your voice heard. I was registered right when I turned 18. Not super proud of some of my young-years votes but I at least showed up. I mean, seriously, you are over 18 and you're not voting?!?!? And then to complain about whoever gets elected - just shut the hell up already.
    I don't get people who don't vote at all and are apathetic to who's elected. I work with someone who's like that. Lives in their own little bubble world, but not young, mid-30s.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,245
    Donald Trump
    Re: young people not voting - not as big of a problem as it used to be, but still a big problem.

    I just don't get it. It's not like my parents were big politicos or whatever, and I certainly learned some not-so-great things that I had to recover from, but I always was taught it's important to vote and make your voice heard. I was registered right when I turned 18. Not super proud of some of my young-years votes but I at least showed up. I mean, seriously, you are over 18 and you're not voting?!?!? And then to complain about whoever gets elected - just shut the hell up already.
    Yeah I wish I could get in a time machine and tell my 18 and 22-year old self to have voted differently.  I didn't truly start understanding my core values lined up with the left until after 2004.  At least I voted though.  It's even hard to know how many in the poll will actually vote.

    I was at Ball State in 1988 and was proud to ride the Young Democrats shuttle to the polls and voted for George Bush. I was a rabid Limbaugh republican through the Clinton years. I did shift to Kerry after GWB's first term as he pissed me off by cutting taxes and going to war at the same time which created big deficits. That's when I learned that the GOP was full of shit.
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    Democratic elites can pick the candidates for you but they can’t force you to vote.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,808
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    Democratic elites can pick the candidates for you but they can’t force you to vote.
    Which ticket has the "elites" running for office? Might want to check your notes...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    tbergs said:
    teskeinc said:
    Democratic elites can pick the candidates for you but they can’t force you to vote.
    Which ticket has the "elites" running for office? Might want to check your notes...
    The Democrats literally have a candidate that no one voted for in a primary. 2020 or 2024. I guess she’s technically not a candidate yet and Clooney and Pelosi could change it again before their convention.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,245
    Donald Trump


    Wow...
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC Posts: 2,672
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    tbergs said:
    teskeinc said:
    Democratic elites can pick the candidates for you but they can’t force you to vote.
    Which ticket has the "elites" running for office? Might want to check your notes...
    The Democrats literally have a candidate that no one voted for in a primary. 2020 or 2024. I guess she’s technically not a candidate yet and Clooney and Pelosi could change it again before their convention.
    Isn't all that matters is what the delegates decide at the DNC?  My impression is that the primary leading up to the DNC is to "weed out" candidates who seemingly won't stand a chance.  I don't see how that's a requirement.

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,633
    Re: young people not voting - not as big of a problem as it used to be, but still a big problem.

    I just don't get it. It's not like my parents were big politicos or whatever, and I certainly learned some not-so-great things that I had to recover from, but I always was taught it's important to vote and make your voice heard. I was registered right when I turned 18. Not super proud of some of my young-years votes but I at least showed up. I mean, seriously, you are over 18 and you're not voting?!?!? And then to complain about whoever gets elected - just shut the hell up already.
    Yeah I wish I could get in a time machine and tell my 18 and 22-year old self to have voted differently.  I didn't truly start understanding my core values lined up with the left until after 2004.  At least I voted though.  It's even hard to know how many in the poll will actually vote.

    I was at Ball State in 1988 and was proud to ride the Young Democrats shuttle to the polls and voted for George Bush. I was a rabid Limbaugh republican through the Clinton years. I did shift to Kerry after GWB's first term as he pissed me off by cutting taxes and going to war at the same time which created big deficits. That's when I learned that the GOP was full of shit.
    If the GOP is full of s***, your words, why are you voting for trump? I'm not going to bother with a screenshot but I'm fairly certain it says Trump by your handle
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,245
    Donald Trump
    Re: young people not voting - not as big of a problem as it used to be, but still a big problem.

    I just don't get it. It's not like my parents were big politicos or whatever, and I certainly learned some not-so-great things that I had to recover from, but I always was taught it's important to vote and make your voice heard. I was registered right when I turned 18. Not super proud of some of my young-years votes but I at least showed up. I mean, seriously, you are over 18 and you're not voting?!?!? And then to complain about whoever gets elected - just shut the hell up already.
    Yeah I wish I could get in a time machine and tell my 18 and 22-year old self to have voted differently.  I didn't truly start understanding my core values lined up with the left until after 2004.  At least I voted though.  It's even hard to know how many in the poll will actually vote.

    I was at Ball State in 1988 and was proud to ride the Young Democrats shuttle to the polls and voted for George Bush. I was a rabid Limbaugh republican through the Clinton years. I did shift to Kerry after GWB's first term as he pissed me off by cutting taxes and going to war at the same time which created big deficits. That's when I learned that the GOP was full of shit.
    If the GOP is full of s***, your words, why are you voting for trump? I'm not going to bother with a screenshot but I'm fairly certain it says Trump by your handle
    that was psyops
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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    teskeinc said:
    tbergs said:
    teskeinc said:
    Democratic elites can pick the candidates for you but they can’t force you to vote.
    Which ticket has the "elites" running for office? Might want to check your notes...
    The Democrats literally have a candidate that no one voted for in a primary. 2020 or 2024. I guess she’s technically not a candidate yet and Clooney and Pelosi could change it again before their convention.
    Isn't all that matters is what the delegates decide at the DNC?  My impression is that the primary leading up to the DNC is to "weed out" candidates who seemingly won't stand a chance.  I don't see how that's a requirement.

    Would be interesting to know if Biden would have said he wasn’t seeking re-election last year and voters had their say in an open primary who would have came out as the nominee. With Harris favorability so low around that time I have a hard time believing it would have been her.
    1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
    1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
    2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
    2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
    2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
    2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
    2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
    2012: EV Vegas 1+2
    2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
    2020 Phoenix, SD
     
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744


    Wow...
    Her net worth is 16 mil and donating 25%? 
    1994 : Memphis 1995 : New Orleans 1996 : Seattle
    1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
    2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
    2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
    2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
    2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
    2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
    2012: EV Vegas 1+2
    2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
    2020 Phoenix, SD
     
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,245
    Donald Trump


    LOL Christ I love this shit...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,245
    Donald Trump
    teskeinc said:


    Wow...
    Her net worth is 16 mil and donating 25%? 
    My guess is the endorsement money knocking on her door will far outweigh the $4mil
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,808
    Kamala Harris
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    tbergs said:
    teskeinc said:
    Democratic elites can pick the candidates for you but they can’t force you to vote.
    Which ticket has the "elites" running for office? Might want to check your notes...
    The Democrats literally have a candidate that no one voted for in a primary. 2020 or 2024. I guess she’s technically not a candidate yet and Clooney and Pelosi could change it again before their convention.
    Isn't all that matters is what the delegates decide at the DNC?  My impression is that the primary leading up to the DNC is to "weed out" candidates who seemingly won't stand a chance.  I don't see how that's a requirement.

    Would be interesting to know if Biden would have said he wasn’t seeking re-election last year and voters had their say in an open primary who would have came out as the nominee. With Harris favorability so low around that time I have a hard time believing it would have been her.
    And what if Trump would have stepped aside last year? Maybe conservatives wouldn't need to whine about the situation flipping on end once the people were given a better choice. Voters are legitimately excited and energized about a candidate for the first time in over a decade. None of the what ifs matter, Harris has the support and the only one's who don't like it seem to be those that weren't voting for Biden and definitely won't be voting for Harris. Isn't that odd? I think it scares them a lot because they know their candidate is weak and not motivating to the majority of conservatives outside the MAGA base.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,245
    Donald Trump


    Vindman chimes in...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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