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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,353
    CM189191 said:
    I wonder if Trump even wants to win again. I don't think he did the first time around to be honest. 

    Presidenting is a lot of work.  He got everything he wanted / needs from the first go round.  And the Supreme Court let home of the hook. 

    Really nothing to gain from a second term.
    Ego. 100% ego. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,385
    CM189191 said:
    I wonder if Trump even wants to win again. I don't think he did the first time around to be honest. 

    Presidenting is a lot of work.  He got everything he wanted / needs from the first go round.  And the Supreme Court let home of the hook. 

    Really nothing to gain from a second term.
    Except avoiding prison.
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  • ZoSoTimZoSoTim Posts: 1,102
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    CM189191 said:
    I wonder if Trump even wants to win again. I don't think he did the first time around to be honest. 

    Presidenting is a lot of work.  He got everything he wanted / needs from the first go round.  And the Supreme Court let home of the hook. 

    Really nothing to gain from a second term.
    Except avoiding prison.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,320
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    awesome.

    a whole separate thread where we get to dunk on trump and vance at the same time.

    glad this thread happened.

    You read my mind!  :lol:
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,385
    When POOTWH spews forth nonsense about windmills and no water to take showers or run the dishwasher, is he “forced” to say those things? Or does he speak freely of his own free will and volition? Anyone?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    CM189191 said:
    I wonder if Trump even wants to win again. I don't think he did the first time around to be honest. 

    Presidenting is a lot of work.  He got everything he wanted / needs from the first go round.  And the Supreme Court let home of the hook. 

    Really nothing to gain from a second term.
    He absolutely wants to win...he needs to keep himself out of the courtroom and do whatever he can to muddle up Jack Smith's case, and attempt to pardon himself, and pardon everyone in his orbit that will commit more crimes for him while he's in office.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Trump
    raped 
    12
    year
    old 
    girls

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,362
    Gern Blansten said:
    CM189191 said:
    I wonder if Trump even wants to win again. I don't think he did the first time around to be honest. 

    Presidenting is a lot of work.  He got everything he wanted / needs from the first go round.  And the Supreme Court let home of the hook. 

    Really nothing to gain from a second term.
    He absolutely wants to win...he needs to keep himself out of the courtroom and do whatever he can to muddle up Jack Smith's case, and attempt to pardon himself, and pardon everyone in his orbit that will commit more crimes for him while he's in office.

    no. he has more precedenting to do.

    he'll have precedent time from 7 am to 1pm. break for a hamburder or 5 with 6 diet cokes. then "work" from 2-2:30pm. 3-6 for more precedent time.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,385
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    edited July 25


    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/25/entertainment/jennifer-aniston-jd-vance/index.html

    Aniston — who typically keeps her personal life private, but has publicly spoken about her fertility journey — also wrote about Vance’s far-right stance on reproductive rights.
    “All I can say is… Mr. Vance, I pray that your daughter is fortunate enough to bear children of her own one day,” Aniston wrote in her post. “I hope she will not need to turn to IVF as a second option. Because you are trying to take that away from her, too.”


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    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    JD’s staff right now:


  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,716
    Who's playing Vance on SNL? Plenty of, um, material to work with. What a joke. He makes Sarah Palin look like the second coming of Alexander Hamilton.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    edited July 25
    Taran Killem would be perfect but he's not on there anymore


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,716
    They're always bringing people back for these kind of things.
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    Gern Blansten said:


    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/25/entertainment/jennifer-aniston-jd-vance/index.html

    Aniston — who typically keeps her personal life private, but has publicly spoken about her fertility journey — also wrote about Vance’s far-right stance on reproductive rights.
    “All I can say is… Mr. Vance, I pray that your daughter is fortunate enough to bear children of her own one day,” Aniston wrote in her post. “I hope she will not need to turn to IVF as a second option. Because you are trying to take that away from her, too.”


    Don’t mess with the women in this country.  
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Who's playing Vance on SNL? Plenty of, um, material to work with. What a joke. He makes Sarah Palin look like the second coming of Alexander Hamilton.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWuc18xISwI 

    Melissa McCarthy as Sean Spicer  
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,716
    cblock4life said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Who's playing Vance on SNL? Plenty of, um, material to work with. What a joke. He makes Sarah Palin look like the second coming of Alexander Hamilton.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWuc18xISwI 

    Melissa McCarthy as Sean Spicer  
    That really pissed of old (really fucking old) Donnie.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677




    LOL...and he's not referring to the child credit effectively lowering rates...he suggested an actual higher tax rate
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Needs executive, golf simulator and “Truth” social time.

    I read this as golf "stimulator" and will be going to rinse my brain with bleach in just a sec.

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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,716
    Gern Blansten said:




    LOL...and he's not referring to the child credit effectively lowering rates...he suggested an actual higher tax rate
    Why are Republicans so obsessed with the life choices of strangers? Just let people be. It's called freedom.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Gern Blansten said:




    LOL...and he's not referring to the child credit effectively lowering rates...he suggested an actual higher tax rate
    Why are Republicans so obsessed with the life choices of strangers? Just let people be. It's called freedom.
    it's not the right kind of freedom though.

    they want people without kids to subsidize their child tax credits. its fucking ridiculous.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,677
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Gern Blansten said:




    LOL...and he's not referring to the child credit effectively lowering rates...he suggested an actual higher tax rate
    Why are Republicans so obsessed with the life choices of strangers? Just let people be. It's called freedom.
    it's not the right kind of freedom though.

    they want people without kids to subsidize their child tax credits. its fucking ridiculous.
    And further complicate the fucking tax code. The GOP (supposedly the small gov't party) has made the code near impossible.

    I can't tell you how many returns I see that are prepared by older accountants that absolutely ignore some of the new deductions that popped up with tRump's tax package. 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,624
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Gern Blansten said:




    LOL...and he's not referring to the child credit effectively lowering rates...he suggested an actual higher tax rate
    Why are Republicans so obsessed with the life choices of strangers? Just let people be. It's called freedom.
    it's not the right kind of freedom though.

    they want people without kids to subsidize their child tax credits. its fucking ridiculous.
    And further complicate the fucking tax code. The GOP (supposedly the small gov't party) has made the code near impossible.

    I can't tell you how many returns I see that are prepared by older accountants that absolutely ignore some of the new deductions that popped up with tRump's tax package. 
    I forgot you were in this line of work. We should talk next spring.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Gern Blansten said:




    LOL...and he's not referring to the child credit effectively lowering rates...he suggested an actual higher tax rate
    Why are Republicans so obsessed with the life choices of strangers? Just let people be. It's called freedom.

    I look at this from an authoritarian / nationalistic angle.
    The Soviets had Mother Heroines   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Heroine  (revived by Putin in 2022 with a 1M Ruble reward to women bearing ten or more children --- I wonder why??).
    The Nazis encouraged large families and motherhood to "strengthen the nation" and also bestowed awards honoring women who birthed many verified German/Aryan children.
    The Great Replacement theory is rooted in a fear that white people will be crowded out by brown people.
    To me, Vance's comments are all of a piece with this thinking: Women should stay in marriages no matter what, abortion should be illegal, childless people should be marginalized. It's pretty clear to me how all of this fits together: "Motherhood is a woman's highest calling."


    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,716
    I think I heard the Paris Opening Ceremonies have the athletes sailing down the Seine? Hopefully it doesn't turn into disaster like one of those Trump Boat Parades.
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    curmudgeoness said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Gern Blansten said:




    LOL...and he's not referring to the child credit effectively lowering rates...he suggested an actual higher tax rate
    Why are Republicans so obsessed with the life choices of strangers? Just let people be. It's called freedom.

    I look at this from an authoritarian / nationalistic angle.
    The Soviets had Mother Heroines   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Heroine  (revived by Putin in 2022 with a 1M Ruble reward to women bearing ten or more children --- I wonder why??).
    The Nazis encouraged large families and motherhood to "strengthen the nation" and also bestowed awards honoring women who birthed many verified German/Aryan children.
    The Great Replacement theory is rooted in a fear that white people will be crowded out by brown people.
    To me, Vance's comments are all of a piece with this thinking: Women should stay in marriages no matter what, abortion should be illegal, childless people should be marginalized. It's pretty clear to me how all of this fits together: "Motherhood is a woman's highest calling."


    I think you’re correct.  This makes total sense.  
    They all want to be Hitler.  
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  • sheckyshecky San Francisco Posts: 2,077
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    Buttigieg ripped for 'extraordinarily brazen' slam on Trump that critics say was accidental 'dunk' on Biden

    It is unclear when and where Trump and Harris will have their first debate

    Published July 26, 2024 6:00pm EDT

    Biden Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg was ripped by conservatives on social media Friday after he mocked former President Trump for showing "weakness" by not agreeing to debate VP Harris in September.

    "Has a presidential nominee ever agreed to a debate, then pulled out? Remarkable show of weakness here," Buttigieg posted on X before being mocked by conservatives who argued that former President Trump had an agreement with Biden, who dropped out of the race and effectively pulled out of the scheduled debate.

    "Yes. Biden. Literally this past weekend," CNN’s Scott Jennings posted on X.

    "Joe Biden agreed to 2 debates, then pulled out of his entire campaign after the first one," pollster Frank Luntz posted on X.

    "The only one I can think of is Joe Biden, right?" The Federalist’s Mollie Hemingway posted on X.

    "I’m actually surprised Pete would dunk this hard on his boss, Joe Biden," Fox News contributor Guy Benson posted on X. "The man *just* pulled out of the race (and therefore the second debate), clearly against his will. Undeniable weakness aside, give him a moment of peace."

    "This is the sort of extraordinarily brazen tack you take only when you know that the media is in full campaign mode in your favor," National Review’s Charles C. Cooke posted on X.

    Fox News Digital reached out to Buttigieg’s office and the Harris campaign but did not receive a response.

    Trump said earlier this week he's open to debating Vice President Harris more than once as the two face off in the 2024 presidential election.

    "Absolutely. I'd want to. I think it's important," Trump said Tuesday when asked by Fox News' Bill Melugin on a conference call with reporters if he would commit to debating Harris at least once.

    "I would be willing to do more than one debate, actually," Trump said. Minutes later, Trump noted, "I haven’t agreed to anything. I agreed to a debate with Joe Biden."

    The Trump campaign said Thursday he will not participate in a debate until Democrats finalize their nominee because it "would be inappropriate to schedule things with Harris because Democrats very well could still change their minds."

    Harris criticized that position from the Trump campaign as "backpedaling." 

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    shecky said:

    so he is not going to go out and try to, you know, reach new voters in a different area? going to waste time and money going back to a place he already has big support?

    dumb strategy. let's see how it plays out for him. 
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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