** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

Gern Blansten

Always the victim. Vote trump...that's your guy

Get_Right

mrussel1 said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The disingenuousness is thick. Posts with more than 10 lines get skipped over, long posts or articles can’t be read and thoughtful responses with a request for comment are lost in the flurry of posts, some never to be responded to unless you ask again or repost and the goalposts keep moving.

I don’t know who to vote for but I’m just asking questions, man. Good fucking lord.

And I am the educated liberal in the middle of blue country that you should pay attention to instead of ridicule. Keep sharing your biased and one sided opinions and see what happens. And yes, I have been hit over the head so much with so much negative language, particularly from you, that my patience to read any posts has worn thin. Thanks for your valuable contributions.

I don't know man.  You seem like the definition of the horse shoe theory of politics. 

The horseshoe should always face up, not down. Otherwise your luck might run out.

HughFreakingDillon

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, it's just really, REALLY difficult to understand how someone could still be undecided after everything that has gone on, and will likely still go on. Usually the people who claim to be independents and undecideds are most often just trolls. If you have been incorrectly accused of that, that's unfortunate. But it's not coming from an unfounded place. 

mickeyrat

"educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.

The Juggler

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The disingenuousness is thick. Posts with more than 10 lines get skipped over, long posts or articles can’t be read and thoughtful responses with a request for comment are lost in the flurry of posts, some never to be responded to unless you ask again or repost and the goalposts keep moving.

I don’t know who to vote for but I’m just asking questions, man. Good fucking lord.

And I am the educated liberal in the middle of blue country that you should pay attention to instead of ridicule. Keep sharing your biased and one sided opinions and see what happens. And yes, I have been hit over the head so much with so much negative language, particularly from you, that my patience to read any posts has worn thin. Thanks for your valuable contributions.

I get it. I think. You think you're coming from a purely logical viewpoint and completely unbiased and unemotional. I get that. You think you can't be duped. You think both sides are liars, so they must be equal in their duplicity. They aren't. 

I'm not going to go all "the world will end" like I was in 2016. It won't. Things will move on for most white americans. But this vote isn't about you as an individual. Think of the people living in fear of a second trump term. Just try, for one second, to imagine it, have some empathy for the people of colour, the trans folks and the LGBTQ2+ crowd that feels like their lives are in danger when people full of hate feel vindicated that their hate is justified when the leader spews such bullshit online and in rallies. 

Think of the women who need pre-natal care that can't get it because of Roe. People are LITERALLY dying because of this man. You simply cannot say that about Harris. 

Thanks for the rational comments. I mean that. The Roe decision was a disgrace to our country. I have admitted that. I am afraid to even suggest where I might stand on immigration or LGBTQ2 rights for fear of retribution rather than meaningful dialog. I guess I am not entitled to my opinions around here without being hit over the head with the liberal agenda.

So according to you Trump represents the evil empire and the Roe decision, which he spearheaded, is a disgrace to our country.

Yeah, tough choice man. Good luck figuring shit out over the next few days!

Get_Right

HughFreakingDillon said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, it's just really, REALLY difficult to understand how someone could still be undecided after everything that has gone on, and will likely still go on. Usually the people who claim to be independents and undecideds are most often just trolls. If you have been incorrectly accused of that, that's unfortunate. But it's not coming from an unfounded place. 

 I have been independent since I was old enough to vote.

Get_Right

mickeyrat said:

"educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.

OK how about I may agree with Trump being a person of poor character  while supporting his trade strategy. I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both? But it is not on offer. 

Tim Simmons

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The disingenuousness is thick. Posts with more than 10 lines get skipped over, long posts or articles can’t be read and thoughtful responses with a request for comment are lost in the flurry of posts, some never to be responded to unless you ask again or repost and the goalposts keep moving.

I don’t know who to vote for but I’m just asking questions, man. Good fucking lord.

And I am the educated liberal in the middle of blue country that you should pay attention to instead of ridicule. Keep sharing your biased and one sided opinions and see what happens. And yes, I have been hit over the head so much with so much negative language, particularly from you, that my patience to read any posts has worn thin. Thanks for your valuable contributions.

I get it. I think. You think you're coming from a purely logical viewpoint and completely unbiased and unemotional. I get that. You think you can't be duped. You think both sides are liars, so they must be equal in their duplicity. They aren't. 

I'm not going to go all "the world will end" like I was in 2016. It won't. Things will move on for most white americans. But this vote isn't about you as an individual. Think of the people living in fear of a second trump term. Just try, for one second, to imagine it, have some empathy for the people of colour, the trans folks and the LGBTQ2+ crowd that feels like their lives are in danger when people full of hate feel vindicated that their hate is justified when the leader spews such bullshit online and in rallies. 

Think of the women who need pre-natal care that can't get it because of Roe. People are LITERALLY dying because of this man. You simply cannot say that about Harris. 

the liberal agenda.

I’m sorry that people feel passionately about kindness and empathy towards others, especially the marginalized. 

HughFreakingDillon

I'm always confused whenever I hear the term "liberal agenda" used as a pejorative. Like "um, love and acceptance for all is a bad thing in your eyes?"

Tim Simmons

Get_Right said:

mickeyrat said:

"educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.

OK how about I may agree with Trump being a person of poor character  while supporting his trade strategy. I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both? But it is not on offer. 

Are the trade plans worth the trade off of individuals rights or their chance at building something in America? 

mickeyrat

Get_Right said:

mickeyrat said:

"educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.

OK how about I may agree with Trump being a person of poor character  while supporting his trade strategy. I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both? But it is not on offer. 

if the reported statements are the actual plan, musk in charge of "efficiency" in government means wrecking the economy on purpose. who benefits from downturns in general.

save us all the pain and emo handwringing. vote your down ballot or stay home period.

tired of wading through all this bullshit to find something substantive.

wake up to 40 50 new posts in a thread and its all bullshit.

Get_Right

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'm always confused whenever I hear the term "liberal agenda" used as a pejorative. Like "um, love and acceptance for all is a bad thing in your eyes?"

No. But in the same way there is a conservative agenda, there is a liberal one. 

Tim Simmons

And what do you think is the end game of that agenda? 

Spiritual_Chaos

Get_Right said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'm always confused whenever I hear the term "liberal agenda" used as a pejorative. Like "um, love and acceptance for all is a bad thing in your eyes?"

No. But in the same way there is a conservative agenda, there is a liberal one. 

You know that if you just take one step out of this weird selfish ego-chamber you dwell in and reach for some
empathy there is no option to vote for Trump. 

But you can’t take that step and instead just spin around in here while staying in the comfort of that ugly chamber. 

So just vote for him then and stop playing around. 

Get_Right

Tim Simmons said:

And what do you think is the end game of that agenda? 

To collect business favors. 

Go Beavers

Get_Right said:

mickeyrat said:

"educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.

OK how about I may agree with Trump being a person of poor character  while supporting his trade strategy. I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both? But it is not on offer. 

And weren’t you just saying that Biden continued most of the tariffs? So won’t Harris be more of the same? 

Get_Right

Go Beavers said:

Get_Right said:

mickeyrat said:

"educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.

OK how about I may agree with Trump being a person of poor character  while supporting his trade strategy. I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both? But it is not on offer. 

And weren’t you just saying that Biden continued most of the tariffs? So won’t Harris be more of the same? 

Yep but it was more lame duck than proactive IMHO. I expect more of the same "we are looking at our options" without doing anything.

Halifax2TheMax

I can’t believe how some people spend their time.

The Juggler

Considering voting for an "evil empire" is some weird fucking shit.

I think I would have more respect for the magas that buy into everything Trump says. 

Tim Simmons

Get_Right said:

Tim Simmons said:

And what do you think is the end game of that agenda? 

To collect business favors.