** KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT -PART DEUX **

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,103
    Always the victim. Vote trump...that's your guy
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,109
    edited October 31
    mrussel1 said:
    Get_Right said:
    The disingenuousness is thick. Posts with more than 10 lines get skipped over, long posts or articles can’t be read and thoughtful responses with a request for comment are lost in the flurry of posts, some never to be responded to unless you ask again or repost and the goalposts keep moving.

    I don’t know who to vote for but I’m just asking questions, man. Good fucking lord.

    And I am the educated liberal in the middle of blue country that you should pay attention to instead of ridicule. Keep sharing your biased and one sided opinions and see what happens. And yes, I have been hit over the head so much with so much negative language, particularly from you, that my patience to read any posts has worn thin. Thanks for your valuable contributions.
    I don't know man.  You seem like the definition of the horse shoe theory of politics. 
    The horseshoe should always face up, not down. Otherwise your luck might run out.
  • Everyone is entitled to their opinions, it's just really, REALLY difficult to understand how someone could still be undecided after everything that has gone on, and will likely still go on. Usually the people who claim to be independents and undecideds are most often just trolls. If you have been incorrectly accused of that, that's unfortunate. But it's not coming from an unfounded place. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    "educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

    square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,877
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    The disingenuousness is thick. Posts with more than 10 lines get skipped over, long posts or articles can’t be read and thoughtful responses with a request for comment are lost in the flurry of posts, some never to be responded to unless you ask again or repost and the goalposts keep moving.

    I don’t know who to vote for but I’m just asking questions, man. Good fucking lord.

    And I am the educated liberal in the middle of blue country that you should pay attention to instead of ridicule. Keep sharing your biased and one sided opinions and see what happens. And yes, I have been hit over the head so much with so much negative language, particularly from you, that my patience to read any posts has worn thin. Thanks for your valuable contributions.
    I get it. I think. You think you're coming from a purely logical viewpoint and completely unbiased and unemotional. I get that. You think you can't be duped. You think both sides are liars, so they must be equal in their duplicity. They aren't. 

    I'm not going to go all "the world will end" like I was in 2016. It won't. Things will move on for most white americans. But this vote isn't about you as an individual. Think of the people living in fear of a second trump term. Just try, for one second, to imagine it, have some empathy for the people of colour, the trans folks and the LGBTQ2+ crowd that feels like their lives are in danger when people full of hate feel vindicated that their hate is justified when the leader spews such bullshit online and in rallies. 

    Think of the women who need pre-natal care that can't get it because of Roe. People are LITERALLY dying because of this man. You simply cannot say that about Harris. 

    Thanks for the rational comments. I mean that. The Roe decision was a disgrace to our country. I have admitted that. I am afraid to even suggest where I might stand on immigration or LGBTQ2 rights for fear of retribution rather than meaningful dialog. I guess I am not entitled to my opinions around here without being hit over the head with the liberal agenda.
    So according to you Trump represents the evil empire and the Roe decision, which he spearheaded, is a disgrace to our country.

    Yeah, tough choice man. Good luck figuring shit out over the next few days!
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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,109
    Everyone is entitled to their opinions, it's just really, REALLY difficult to understand how someone could still be undecided after everything that has gone on, and will likely still go on. Usually the people who claim to be independents and undecideds are most often just trolls. If you have been incorrectly accused of that, that's unfortunate. But it's not coming from an unfounded place. 
     I have been independent since I was old enough to vote.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,109
    mickeyrat said:
    "educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

    square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.
    OK how about I may agree with Trump being a person of poor character  while supporting his trade strategy. I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both? But it is not on offer. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    edited October 31
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    The disingenuousness is thick. Posts with more than 10 lines get skipped over, long posts or articles can’t be read and thoughtful responses with a request for comment are lost in the flurry of posts, some never to be responded to unless you ask again or repost and the goalposts keep moving.

    I don’t know who to vote for but I’m just asking questions, man. Good fucking lord.

    And I am the educated liberal in the middle of blue country that you should pay attention to instead of ridicule. Keep sharing your biased and one sided opinions and see what happens. And yes, I have been hit over the head so much with so much negative language, particularly from you, that my patience to read any posts has worn thin. Thanks for your valuable contributions.
    I get it. I think. You think you're coming from a purely logical viewpoint and completely unbiased and unemotional. I get that. You think you can't be duped. You think both sides are liars, so they must be equal in their duplicity. They aren't. 

    I'm not going to go all "the world will end" like I was in 2016. It won't. Things will move on for most white americans. But this vote isn't about you as an individual. Think of the people living in fear of a second trump term. Just try, for one second, to imagine it, have some empathy for the people of colour, the trans folks and the LGBTQ2+ crowd that feels like their lives are in danger when people full of hate feel vindicated that their hate is justified when the leader spews such bullshit online and in rallies. 

    Think of the women who need pre-natal care that can't get it because of Roe. People are LITERALLY dying because of this man. You simply cannot say that about Harris. 

    the liberal agenda.
    I’m sorry that people feel passionately about kindness and empathy towards others, especially the marginalized. 
    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • I'm always confused whenever I hear the term "liberal agenda" used as a pejorative. Like "um, love and acceptance for all is a bad thing in your eyes?"
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:
    "educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

    square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.
    OK how about I may agree with Trump being a person of poor character  while supporting his trade strategy. I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both? But it is not on offer. 
    Are the trade plans worth the trade off of individuals rights or their chance at building something in America? 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:
    "educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

    square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.
    OK how about I may agree with Trump being a person of poor character  while supporting his trade strategy. I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both? But it is not on offer. 
    if the reported statements are the actual plan, musk in charge of "efficiency" in government means wrecking the economy on purpose. who benefits from downturns in general.

    save us all the pain and emo handwringing. vote your down ballot or stay home period.

    tired of wading through all this bullshit to find something substantive.

    wake up to 40 50 new posts in a thread and its all bullshit.

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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,109
    I'm always confused whenever I hear the term "liberal agenda" used as a pejorative. Like "um, love and acceptance for all is a bad thing in your eyes?"

    No. But in the same way there is a conservative agenda, there is a liberal one. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    And what do you think is the end game of that agenda? 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,492
    Get_Right said:
    I'm always confused whenever I hear the term "liberal agenda" used as a pejorative. Like "um, love and acceptance for all is a bad thing in your eyes?"

    No. But in the same way there is a conservative agenda, there is a liberal one. 
    You know that if you just take one step out of this weird selfish ego-chamber you dwell in and reach for some
    empathy there is no option to vote for Trump. 

    But you can’t take that step and instead just spin around in here while staying in the comfort of that ugly chamber. 

    So just vote for him then and stop playing around. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,109
    And what do you think is the end game of that agenda? 

    To collect business favors. 
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,062
    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:
    "educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

    square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.
    OK how about I may agree with Trump being a person of poor character  while supporting his trade strategy. I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both? But it is not on offer. 
    And weren’t you just saying that Biden continued most of the tariffs? So won’t Harris be more of the same? 
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,109
    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:
    "educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

    square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.
    OK how about I may agree with Trump being a person of poor character  while supporting his trade strategy. I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both? But it is not on offer. 
    And weren’t you just saying that Biden continued most of the tariffs? So won’t Harris be more of the same? 
    Yep but it was more lame duck than proactive IMHO. I expect more of the same "we are looking at our options" without doing anything.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,955
    I can’t believe how some people spend their time.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,877
    edited October 31
    Considering voting for an "evil empire" is some weird fucking shit.

    I think I would have more respect for the magas that buy into everything Trump says. 
    Post edited by The Juggler on
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    Get_Right said:
    And what do you think is the end game of that agenda? 

    To collect business favors. 

  • seanwonseanwon Posts: 463
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    The disingenuousness is thick. Posts with more than 10 lines get skipped over, long posts or articles can’t be read and thoughtful responses with a request for comment are lost in the flurry of posts, some never to be responded to unless you ask again or repost and the goalposts keep moving.

    I don’t know who to vote for but I’m just asking questions, man. Good fucking lord.

    And I am the educated liberal in the middle of blue country that you should pay attention to instead of ridicule. Keep sharing your biased and one sided opinions and see what happens. And yes, I have been hit over the head so much with so much negative language, particularly from you, that my patience to read any posts has worn thin. Thanks for your valuable contributions.
    I get it. I think. You think you're coming from a purely logical viewpoint and completely unbiased and unemotional. I get that. You think you can't be duped. You think both sides are liars, so they must be equal in their duplicity. They aren't. 

    I'm not going to go all "the world will end" like I was in 2016. It won't. Things will move on for most white americans. But this vote isn't about you as an individual. Think of the people living in fear of a second trump term. Just try, for one second, to imagine it, have some empathy for the people of colour, the trans folks and the LGBTQ2+ crowd that feels like their lives are in danger when people full of hate feel vindicated that their hate is justified when the leader spews such bullshit online and in rallies. 

    Think of the women who need pre-natal care that can't get it because of Roe. People are LITERALLY dying because of this man. You simply cannot say that about Harris. 

    Thanks for the rational comments. I mean that. The Roe decision was a disgrace to our country. I have admitted that. I am afraid to even suggest where I might stand on immigration or LGBTQ2 rights for fear of retribution rather than meaningful dialog. I guess I am not entitled to my opinions around here without being hit over the head with the liberal agenda.
    They don't even get it.  The far left, cult like agenda of the Libs here and ones like them are the reason this election is so close. It shouldn't be.  I've gone from staunch Liberal to someone who is voting Kamala grudgingly. After that, my vote is up for grabs. 
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  • cult like agenda of the libs here? you're fucking kidding, right? hahaha. no chance you were ever a "staunch liberal" with language like that. 
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  • far left is liberals in canada. the lefties here are fucking conservative where I'm from. haha. you have no idea what far left actually is. 
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  • cult like agenda of the libs here? you're fucking kidding, right? hahaha. no chance you were ever a "staunch liberal" with language like that. 
    exactly
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cult like agenda of the libs here? you're fucking kidding, right? hahaha. no chance you were ever a "staunch liberal" with language like that. 
    imagine a one time staunch liberal being ok with the rollback of women's rights and the further marginalization of minorities.

    these are things staunch liberals would fight and die for.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,027
    edited October 31
    seanwon said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    The disingenuousness is thick. Posts with more than 10 lines get skipped over, long posts or articles can’t be read and thoughtful responses with a request for comment are lost in the flurry of posts, some never to be responded to unless you ask again or repost and the goalposts keep moving.

    I don’t know who to vote for but I’m just asking questions, man. Good fucking lord.

    And I am the educated liberal in the middle of blue country that you should pay attention to instead of ridicule. Keep sharing your biased and one sided opinions and see what happens. And yes, I have been hit over the head so much with so much negative language, particularly from you, that my patience to read any posts has worn thin. Thanks for your valuable contributions.
    I get it. I think. You think you're coming from a purely logical viewpoint and completely unbiased and unemotional. I get that. You think you can't be duped. You think both sides are liars, so they must be equal in their duplicity. They aren't. 

    I'm not going to go all "the world will end" like I was in 2016. It won't. Things will move on for most white americans. But this vote isn't about you as an individual. Think of the people living in fear of a second trump term. Just try, for one second, to imagine it, have some empathy for the people of colour, the trans folks and the LGBTQ2+ crowd that feels like their lives are in danger when people full of hate feel vindicated that their hate is justified when the leader spews such bullshit online and in rallies. 

    Think of the women who need pre-natal care that can't get it because of Roe. People are LITERALLY dying because of this man. You simply cannot say that about Harris. 

    Thanks for the rational comments. I mean that. The Roe decision was a disgrace to our country. I have admitted that. I am afraid to even suggest where I might stand on immigration or LGBTQ2 rights for fear of retribution rather than meaningful dialog. I guess I am not entitled to my opinions around here without being hit over the head with the liberal agenda.
    They don't even get it.  The far left, cult like agenda of the Libs here and ones like them are the reason this election is so close. It shouldn't be.  I've gone from staunch Liberal to someone who is voting Kamala grudgingly. After that, my vote is up for grabs.
    What specifically did the far left do to turn you off? Because to be fair, the far left has a minority voice in the government and a majority of liberals are not far left.
    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,877
    edited November 1
    seanwon said:
    Get_Right said:
    Get_Right said:
    The disingenuousness is thick. Posts with more than 10 lines get skipped over, long posts or articles can’t be read and thoughtful responses with a request for comment are lost in the flurry of posts, some never to be responded to unless you ask again or repost and the goalposts keep moving.

    I don’t know who to vote for but I’m just asking questions, man. Good fucking lord.

    And I am the educated liberal in the middle of blue country that you should pay attention to instead of ridicule. Keep sharing your biased and one sided opinions and see what happens. And yes, I have been hit over the head so much with so much negative language, particularly from you, that my patience to read any posts has worn thin. Thanks for your valuable contributions.
    I get it. I think. You think you're coming from a purely logical viewpoint and completely unbiased and unemotional. I get that. You think you can't be duped. You think both sides are liars, so they must be equal in their duplicity. They aren't. 

    I'm not going to go all "the world will end" like I was in 2016. It won't. Things will move on for most white americans. But this vote isn't about you as an individual. Think of the people living in fear of a second trump term. Just try, for one second, to imagine it, have some empathy for the people of colour, the trans folks and the LGBTQ2+ crowd that feels like their lives are in danger when people full of hate feel vindicated that their hate is justified when the leader spews such bullshit online and in rallies. 

    Think of the women who need pre-natal care that can't get it because of Roe. People are LITERALLY dying because of this man. You simply cannot say that about Harris. 

    Thanks for the rational comments. I mean that. The Roe decision was a disgrace to our country. I have admitted that. I am afraid to even suggest where I might stand on immigration or LGBTQ2 rights for fear of retribution rather than meaningful dialog. I guess I am not entitled to my opinions around here without being hit over the head with the liberal agenda.
    They don't even get it.  The far left, cult like agenda of the Libs here and ones like them are the reason this election is so close. It shouldn't be.  I've gone from staunch Liberal to someone who is voting Kamala grudgingly. After that, my vote is up for grabs.
    What specifically did the far left do to turn you off? Because to be fair, the far left has a minority voice in the government and a majority of liberals are not far left.
    If I had to guess, it's Israel being attacked by Hamas and global inflation. 

    Clearly, the democrats are to blame. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,492
    Philly NJ said:
    If you don't care that MAGA is a Nazi-style movement, the only thing you have to know about this race is that Trump's plans will destroy the economy (20% sales tax "tariff" and crippling deportations) while Harris' will improve it (attacking price gouging, build new housing).
    Your view is opposite of real life realities.  When Trump was President, the economy was good. With Harris, we all got screwed with much higher prices,  wages outpaced by inflation, higher debt.  That is why Harris's message is not catching on with most Americans. Actions speak louder than words, and her actions made things much worse for majority of Americans. Case closed.
    Did Kamala cause the inflation over here in Sweden happening at the same time?
    @Philly NJ Enlighten me, please
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  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,245
    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:
    "educated liberal" AND fears the projected liberal backlash for stances on immigration and lgbtq+(etc, hard to keep up) ?

    square this up for me. I'm obviously missing something.
    I may support the rights of women and an immigration policy, Is it wrong to want both?
    So you must have been furious when Trump killed the immigration bill earlier this year, right? 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,421
    There’s absolutely zero reason for me to cast my vote for the ugly human! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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