PROJECT 2025

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  • KatKat Posts: 4,849
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,703
    I have a feeling that these videos (and others) are going to haunt tRump/Vance heavily. They should have approached their defense differently than just trying to say they didn't know anything about it.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
    Reality sure is pesky. It keeps popping up everywhere. No wonder some avoid Letter From An American, way toooooo much REALITY:

    To the degree there is an actual set of policies in place on the Republican side, more evidence appeared today to suggest those policies are those set by the 2025 Project, no matter how strongly Trump has tried to distance himself from it. 

    Two men associated with the British nonprofit Centre for Climate Reporting secretly video recorded one of the key authors of Project 2025, Christian nationalist Russell Vought, director of the Office of Management and Budget under Trump and the budget director for the extremist Republican Study Committee. In the recording, released today, Vought assured the men, who he thought might donate to the cause, that he and his Center for Renewing America were secretly writing a blueprint of executive orders, memos, and regulations that Trump could enact immediately upon taking office a second time.

    Vought assured the men that Trump was only disavowing Project 2025 for political reasons. In reality, Vought said, Trump is “very supportive of what we do.” Vought also said that he does not believe the president is bound by the Posse Comitatus Act, an 1878 law that prohibits the use of federal troops for law enforcement purposes against U.S. citizens. “The President has, you know, the ability both along the border and elsewhere to maintain law and order with the military,” Vought said. “And that’s something that, you know, it’s going to be important for, for him to remember and his lawyers to affirm.” In summer 2020, defense officials stopped Trump from mobilizing active duty troops against protesters.

    Project 2025 calls for gutting the nonpartisan civil service and replacing it with people loyal to a strong president, and making the Department of Justice and the Department of Defense loyal to the president. With the power concentrated in the president, the government would enforce strict Christian nationalist ideals, revoking the rights of LGBTQ+ people, women, and immigrants and racial minorities. 

    Yesterday, Jill Lawrence of The Bulwark noted that Trump and his allies don’t even need to enact all of Project 2025: simply gutting the nonpartisan civil service and filling almost 2 million government jobs with those who are loyal to Trump “above even laws, courts, security, liberty, the ‘general welfare,’ and the rest of the Constitution” would be enough to destroy the country as we know it. 

    Think Aileen Cannon, the Trump-appointed judge who dismissed the federal case charging Trump for retaining classified documents, or House speaker Mike Johnson, who killed a bipartisan border security bill because Trump wanted to keep the issue of immigration open so he could campaign on it. Trump could install into official positions doctors who endorse quack health remedies, or officials who nod as Trump changes the trajectory of a tropical storm with a Sharpie. “Personnel is policy,” Project 2025’s authors say, and, if elected, Trump has vowed to have his own loyalists take over the United States government.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
    But we were told it wasn’t real, a thing? Why would the Heritage Foundation be so concerned with getting something back that’s not real?

    He found a Project 2025 duffel bag. Then police showed up at his house.

    Journalist and author Malcolm Harris says he found the bag left on a ledge in Capitol Hill. It turned out to be more trouble than it was worth.

    Author Malcolm Harris opened the door of his Capitol Hill home on Tuesday morning to find a D.C. police officer on his stoop.

    The officer had come to find out what Harris knew about a missing “Project 2025” duffel bag from the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank — and the documents that had been inside. But Harris wasn’t interested in chatting.

    “I don’t talk to the police, so we didn’t have a very long conversation,” Harris told The Washington Post.

    For the Heritage Foundation, it’s hard to imagine a worse person to come across a bag full of their internal files than Harris. A Marxist journalist with a sense of humor and three books critiquing capitalism to his name, including the 2023 national bestseller “Palo Alto,” Harris has dedicated his life to the opposite of Heritage’s conservative politics.

    In a city built on politics, Washingtonians of wildly different political persuasions typically manage to work, live and forget their duffel bags around one another without the situation escalating to a police investigation. Then again …

    In Harris’s telling, he came into possession of the duffel bag on the evening of Aug. 9, as he walked to pick up a cheesecake. At the corner of Sixth and E Streets NE, Harris passed a low-set ledge where he says people often leave free, unwanted items. (As Harris reenacted his discovery of the bag at the corner a week later, someone was giving away a succulent.)

    “People in Capitol Hill just leave a bunch of really nice stuff out all the time,” said Harris, who once picked up a coffee machine on the same block. “This is, in fact, not the nicest duffel bag I have found outside for free on Capitol Hill.”

    As he walked up to the bag, Harris recalled later, he couldn’t believe what he was seeing. The blue-and-white, preppy-style banker bag carried branding for Project 2025, the sprawling Heritage project that has become a political third-rail for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.

    Project 2025, a wide-ranging blueprint for a second Trump presidency created by many people with close ties to the ex-president, has become a weight around Republicans’ necks and a sort of byword for Democrats’ concerns about an extremist future in a second Trump administration. Amid a barrage of criticism of its goals — which include the elimination of the Department of Education, mass deportations and new restrictions on abortion — Trump distanced himself from the program in July. That same month, Project 2025’s leader left Heritage, and the group ceased new policy work.

    For liberals of an ironic bent, the duffel bag could make the ultimate trophy. On Monday, Harris posted a picture of the bag on X, saying he might give the documents inside to a journalist.

    The files and other items inside weren’t hugely revelatory. The bag and most of its contents appeared to be part of a Heritage internship program, including a document with pictures and lengthy biographies of its interns. Still, the fact that Harris discovered the documents on the streets of Washington could be a minor embarrassment for the think tank, at a time when both Heritage and Project 2025 are under intense scrutiny.

    “It’s not like I found secret internal documents about Project 2025,” Harris said. “It’s not that crazy; it’s like, ‘Whoops, they left this out.’”

    Judging from the reactions Harris received on X, though, the real prize appeared to be the bag itself. Harris said he soon received more than a dozen direct messages from interested buyers offering hundreds of dollars for the bag — “I need that bag! Let me buy that bag!” Harris initially considered auctioning off the bag, without its contents, to raise money for charity.

    He figured the bag could make for a wry conversation piece.

    “Just showing people when they come by your crib, like, ‘Look what I got,’” Harris said.

    But Harris’s plans for the bag would soon run into D.C. police. After seeing Harris’s tweets, a woman who describes herself on LinkedIn as a Project 2025 staffer called the police and filed a complaint for theft, according to a police report obtained by The Post.

    In the account she gave to police, the bag disappeared in the late afternoon of Friday, Aug. 9, when she and another Heritage staffer “left a bag in a parking space while getting into their car,” in a public area a block from Heritage’s headquarters on the 200 block of Massachusetts Avenue NE. When they returned to get it 30 minutes later, the bag was gone.

    Harris and the Heritage staffer who complained to police differ on when the bag was taken. In the police report, the Heritage staffer claims the bag was taken from the parking spot a little more than an hour earlier, between 5 and 5:30 p.m. Harris provided The Post with map app data that demonstrates he was at the corner several blocks away where he claimed to have found it around 6:45 p.m. that day.

    One or both of their accounts may be wrong, but the time difference also raises the possibility that an unknown third party took the bag from the parking space, carried it a few blocks, was perhaps unimpressed with the book about Israel and the Altoids tin inside, and dropped it on the corner, where Harris later found it.

    The police report makes no mention of surveillance videos or witnesses who saw Harris take the bag from the parking spot.

    The officer who went to Harris’s house claims in the police report that the author “spontaneously admitted that he was in possession of the bag and that he would not return it.” Harris insists he didn’t tell the officer he had the bag, saying only that he refused to give the officer his identification. Harris said he would never speak to the police without a lawyer, since both his wife and sister are criminal defense attorneys.

    “If I talk to the police without a lawyer, I’m in way more trouble with my family,” Harris said.

    On Thursday morning, after learning more about the ongoing police investigation, Harris decided to end the dispute himself. With his wife and 7-month-old baby (who was dressed in a police-abolition onesie), Harris walked to Heritage’s office to return the bag.

    At no point in the process, Harris said, had anyone from Heritage just emailed him to ask for the bag back, but he was eager to be rid of it.

    As Harris waited in the lobby, Project 2025 was dealing with still another embarrassment, this time potentially far more serious. Earlier that morning, a British journalism nonprofit released footage of Project 2025 author Russell Vought boasting about the program’s Trump ties. The journalists gained access to Vought by duping him with several false identities and websites.

    Inside Heritage’s lobby, Harris and a man who identified himself as Heritage’s head of security sorted through the items in the bag, so the man could give Harris an itemized receipt that he hoped would put the police case to rest. The security chief said he didn’t need to verify the bag’s contents, given that the internship documents inside were not exactly “the keys to the kingdom.”

    In a statement to The Post, a Heritage spokesperson said they were glad the bag had been turned over.

    “We are pleased that our intern’s property was returned and hope that in the future our neighbors will exercise basic decency so that the police need not be involved,” the statement said.

    After once more demanding an apology from Heritage for sending “an armed officer to my home,” Harris headed for the door, then posed for a final selfie in front of Heritage’s headquarters. The troublesome bag was gone.

    “It’s not a bad bag,” Harris said. “But I guess it’s historically interesting.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2024/08/16/project-2025-dc-duffel-bag/

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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    Heritage Foundation has been around for 40 years. Trump didn’t acknowledge it in 2016-2020. But somehow now Democrats are hoping that it’s his platform. Project 2025 is a radical left liberals wet dream. 


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
    teskeinc said:
    Heritage Foundation has been around for 40 years. Trump didn’t acknowledge it in 2016-2020. But somehow now Democrats are hoping that it’s his platform. Project 2025 is a radical left liberals wet dream. 


    Project 2025 is in its seventh iteration and POOTWH blessed it. It’s a repub wet dream of turning ‘Murica into an autocratic state. You should try reading it.
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    teskeinc said:
    Heritage Foundation has been around for 40 years. Trump didn’t acknowledge it in 2016-2020. But somehow now Democrats are hoping that it’s his platform. Project 2025 is a radical left liberals wet dream. 


    Project 2025 is in its seventh iteration and POOTWH blessed it. It’s a repub wet dream of turning ‘Murica into an autocratic state. You should try reading it.
    When your candidate is accused of communism and her first platform economic speech calls for price controls of food, right out of the communist handbook, but Project 2025. It has no traction other than a handful of radical left doomsdayers thinking that this is somehow the “grabbing her by the pussy” moment of the election cycle. No one cares. 

    When you have nothing left….. but Project 2025!!! 😂😂😂
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,214
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Heritage Foundation has been around for 40 years. Trump didn’t acknowledge it in 2016-2020. But somehow now Democrats are hoping that it’s his platform. Project 2025 is a radical left liberals wet dream. 


    Project 2025 is in its seventh iteration and POOTWH blessed it. It’s a repub wet dream of turning ‘Murica into an autocratic state. You should try reading it.
    When your candidate is accused of communism and her first platform economic speech calls for price controls of food, right out of the communist handbook, but Project 2025. It has no traction other than a handful of radical left doomsdayers thinking that this is somehow the “grabbing her by the pussy” moment of the election cycle. No one cares. 

    When you have nothing left….. but Project 2025!!! 😂😂😂
    it is your party's platform.

    trump is running away from it publicly because it is deeply unpopular and he knows it.

    also, the people accusing harris of being a communist have also called her a socialist, a radical left wing marxist, among other things. these are all distinctly different. so which one is she?
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,856
    She is Copmala
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Heritage Foundation has been around for 40 years. Trump didn’t acknowledge it in 2016-2020. But somehow now Democrats are hoping that it’s his platform. Project 2025 is a radical left liberals wet dream. 


    Project 2025 is in its seventh iteration and POOTWH blessed it. It’s a repub wet dream of turning ‘Murica into an autocratic state. You should try reading it.
    When your candidate is accused of communism and her first platform economic speech calls for price controls of food, right out of the communist handbook, but Project 2025. It has no traction other than a handful of radical left doomsdayers thinking that this is somehow the “grabbing her by the pussy” moment of the election cycle. No one cares. 

    When you have nothing left….. but Project 2025!!! 😂😂😂
    it is your party's platform.

    trump is running away from it publicly because it is deeply unpopular and he knows it.

    also, the people accusing harris of being a communist have also called her a socialist, a radical left wing marxist, among other things. these are all distinctly different. so which one is she?
    She has no platform and won’t take questions. You’re voting for an illusion and good vibes. Once she has to talk it’s over. That’s why she’s essentially running from Biden’s basement. Incapable of speaking without a teleprompter and speech writers. She must be as dumb as dirt?
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,856
    If off the dome Trump style is the erudite approach, I'll take the prompter every time. 

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Heritage Foundation has been around for 40 years. Trump didn’t acknowledge it in 2016-2020. But somehow now Democrats are hoping that it’s his platform. Project 2025 is a radical left liberals wet dream. 


    Project 2025 is in its seventh iteration and POOTWH blessed it. It’s a repub wet dream of turning ‘Murica into an autocratic state. You should try reading it.
    When your candidate is accused of communism and her first platform economic speech calls for price controls of food, right out of the communist handbook, but Project 2025. It has no traction other than a handful of radical left doomsdayers thinking that this is somehow the “grabbing her by the pussy” moment of the election cycle. No one cares. 

    When you have nothing left….. but Project 2025!!! 😂😂😂
    it is your party's platform.

    trump is running away from it publicly because it is deeply unpopular and he knows it.

    also, the people accusing harris of being a communist have also called her a socialist, a radical left wing marxist, among other things. these are all distinctly different. so which one is she?
    She has no platform and won’t take questions. You’re voting for an illusion and good vibes. Once she has to talk it’s over. That’s why she’s essentially running from Biden’s basement. Incapable of speaking without a teleprompter and speech writers. She must be as dumb as dirt?
    Because being dumb as dirt gets you a law degree and elected AG, to the senate and VP? But then again, there’s POOTWH with multiple bankruptcies, 3 marriages, two impeachments, 34 felony convictions, civil liability for rape, paying off a porn star, a gag order, legal settlements for fraud and three more impending criminal trials. I’m not sure that you’re one to say Kamala is dumb as dirt after claiming you’ll be voting POOTWH.
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Heritage Foundation has been around for 40 years. Trump didn’t acknowledge it in 2016-2020. But somehow now Democrats are hoping that it’s his platform. Project 2025 is a radical left liberals wet dream. 


    Project 2025 is in its seventh iteration and POOTWH blessed it. It’s a repub wet dream of turning ‘Murica into an autocratic state. You should try reading it.
    When your candidate is accused of communism and her first platform economic speech calls for price controls of food, right out of the communist handbook, but Project 2025. It has no traction other than a handful of radical left doomsdayers thinking that this is somehow the “grabbing her by the pussy” moment of the election cycle. No one cares. 

    When you have nothing left….. but Project 2025!!! 😂😂😂
    it is your party's platform.

    trump is running away from it publicly because it is deeply unpopular and he knows it.

    also, the people accusing harris of being a communist have also called her a socialist, a radical left wing marxist, among other things. these are all distinctly different. so which one is she?
    She has no platform and won’t take questions. You’re voting for an illusion and good vibes. Once she has to talk it’s over. That’s why she’s essentially running from Biden’s basement. Incapable of speaking without a teleprompter and speech writers. She must be as dumb as dirt?
    Because being dumb as dirt gets you a law degree and elected AG, to the senate and VP? But then again, there’s POOTWH with multiple bankruptcies, 3 marriages, two impeachments, 34 felony convictions, civil liability for rape, paying off a porn star, a gag order, legal settlements for fraud and three more impending criminal trials. I’m not sure that you’re one to say Kamala is dumb as dirt after claiming you’ll be voting POOTWH.
    Whataboutism! Isn’t it beautiful…. TDS baby!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Heritage Foundation has been around for 40 years. Trump didn’t acknowledge it in 2016-2020. But somehow now Democrats are hoping that it’s his platform. Project 2025 is a radical left liberals wet dream. 


    Project 2025 is in its seventh iteration and POOTWH blessed it. It’s a repub wet dream of turning ‘Murica into an autocratic state. You should try reading it.
    When your candidate is accused of communism and her first platform economic speech calls for price controls of food, right out of the communist handbook, but Project 2025. It has no traction other than a handful of radical left doomsdayers thinking that this is somehow the “grabbing her by the pussy” moment of the election cycle. No one cares. 

    When you have nothing left….. but Project 2025!!! 😂😂😂
    it is your party's platform.

    trump is running away from it publicly because it is deeply unpopular and he knows it.

    also, the people accusing harris of being a communist have also called her a socialist, a radical left wing marxist, among other things. these are all distinctly different. so which one is she?
    She has no platform and won’t take questions. You’re voting for an illusion and good vibes. Once she has to talk it’s over. That’s why she’s essentially running from Biden’s basement. Incapable of speaking without a teleprompter and speech writers. She must be as dumb as dirt?
    Because being dumb as dirt gets you a law degree and elected AG, to the senate and VP? But then again, there’s POOTWH with multiple bankruptcies, 3 marriages, two impeachments, 34 felony convictions, civil liability for rape, paying off a porn star, a gag order, legal settlements for fraud and three more impending criminal trials. I’m not sure that you’re one to say Kamala is dumb as dirt after claiming you’ll be voting POOTWH.
    Whataboutism! Isn’t it beautiful…. TDS baby!
    Reality baby! Time for another nap, eh?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,299
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    Heritage Foundation has been around for 40 years. Trump didn’t acknowledge it in 2016-2020. But somehow now Democrats are hoping that it’s his platform. Project 2025 is a radical left liberals wet dream. 


    Project 2025 is in its seventh iteration and POOTWH blessed it. It’s a repub wet dream of turning ‘Murica into an autocratic state. You should try reading it.
    When your candidate is accused of communism and her first platform economic speech calls for price controls of food, right out of the communist handbook, but Project 2025. It has no traction other than a handful of radical left doomsdayers thinking that this is somehow the “grabbing her by the pussy” moment of the election cycle. No one cares. 

    When you have nothing left….. but Project 2025!!! 😂😂😂
    it is your party's platform.

    trump is running away from it publicly because it is deeply unpopular and he knows it.

    also, the people accusing harris of being a communist have also called her a socialist, a radical left wing marxist, among other things. these are all distinctly different. so which one is she?
    She has no platform and won’t take questions. You’re voting for an illusion and good vibes. Once she has to talk it’s over. That’s why she’s essentially running from Biden’s basement. Incapable of speaking without a teleprompter and speech writers. She must be as dumb as dirt?
    Because being dumb as dirt gets you a law degree and elected AG, to the senate and VP? But then again, there’s POOTWH with multiple bankruptcies, 3 marriages, two impeachments, 34 felony convictions, civil liability for rape, paying off a porn star, a gag order, legal settlements for fraud and three more impending criminal trials. I’m not sure that you’re one to say Kamala is dumb as dirt after claiming you’ll be voting POOTWH.
    Whataboutism! Isn’t it beautiful…. TDS baby!
    Which of these facts is not true that Halifax pointed out? 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,634
    Speaking of being dumb as dirt. From WaPo,  you know, that NY Post endorsed source of information but you really should pay attention to the quotes:

    Trump took exception to his speeches being described as meandering. “They’ll say he was rambling,” he said. “I don’t ramble. I’m a really smart guy, you know, really smart. I don’t ramble.”

    In the speech, Trump defended his proposal to impose tariffs on China and other countries. Trump falsely described tariffs as a tax on those countries; in reality tariffs are paid by domestic consumers.

    “A lot of people like to say, ‘Oh, it’s a tax on us,’” Trump said. “No, no, no, it’s a tax on a foreign country.”

    Trump’s appearance in Wilkes-Barre comes as both campaigns are heavily focused on the battleground state of Pennsylvania. Harris and Walz plan a bus trip on Sunday near Pittsburgh; Trump will return to Pennsylvania on Monday. According to The Post’s polling average, Harris is now leading Trump by two points in the state.

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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,478
    Speaking of being dumb as dirt. From WaPo,  you know, that NY Post endorsed source of information but you really should pay attention to the quotes:

    Trump took exception to his speeches being described as meandering. “They’ll say he was rambling,” he said. “I don’t ramble. I’m a really smart guy, you know, really smart. I don’t ramble.”

    In the speech, Trump defended his proposal to impose tariffs on China and other countries. Trump falsely described tariffs as a tax on those countries; in reality tariffs are paid by domestic consumers.

    “A lot of people like to say, ‘Oh, it’s a tax on us,’” Trump said. “No, no, no, it’s a tax on a foreign country.”

    Trump’s appearance in Wilkes-Barre comes as both campaigns are heavily focused on the battleground state of Pennsylvania. Harris and Walz plan a bus trip on Sunday near Pittsburgh; Trump will return to Pennsylvania on Monday. According to The Post’s polling average, Harris is now leading Trump by two points in the state.

    Does he really think that or is he lying? I don't know which is worse.
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    Stop fearmongering. Enjoy the RFK Jr bounce.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,299
    teskeinc said:
    Stop fearmongering. Enjoy the RFK Jr bounce.
    https://apnews.com/article/a34d091fd401056c938c8897c1ebabd6
    It’s been around for 2 years and Vance is totally behind it and so is Trumpollini no matter how much you keep saying it’s just fearmongering! He’s on board he just has you duped. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,214
    teskeinc said:
    Stop fearmongering. Enjoy the RFK Jr bounce.
    spoiler alert. there will be no rfk jr bounce for trump.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,299
    KH should just keep on bringing it up specially at the debate make him own it or disown it on live Television make him lose his temper! 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    edited August 25
    KH should just keep on bringing it up specially at the debate make him own it or disown it on live Television make him lose his temper! 
    It wouldn’t matter to you. He’s already spoke and denied his involvement countless times. He was President for 4 years and this wasn’t his agenda either. Just like when radical leftists said he would start WWIll,  it’s just a fearmongering propaganda tactic. 

    As much as the Maddow crowd, screams hysterically about it, average voters with common sense don’t really pay it any attention.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,299
    teskeinc said:
    KH should just keep on bringing it up specially at the debate make him own it or disown it on live Television make him lose his temper! 
    It wouldn’t matter to you. He’s already spoke and denied his involvement countless times. He was President for 4 years and this wasn’t his agenda either. Just like when radical leftists said he would start WWIll,  it’s just a fearmongering propaganda tactic. 

    As much as the Maddow crowd, screams hysterically about it, average voters with common sense don’t really pay it any attention.
    Deplorable’s have no common sense! Just like When Obama was to bring this nation into a socialist society or take everyone’s guns! Biden was also going to take everyone’s guns and totally make this nation a socialist country 😂😂 go ahead what about what about what about! 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    edited August 25
    teskeinc said:
    KH should just keep on bringing it up specially at the debate make him own it or disown it on live Television make him lose his temper! 
    It wouldn’t matter to you. He’s already spoke and denied his involvement countless times. He was President for 4 years and this wasn’t his agenda either. Just like when radical leftists said he would start WWIll,  it’s just a fearmongering propaganda tactic. 

    As much as the Maddow crowd, screams hysterically about it, average voters with common sense don’t really pay it any attention.
    Deplorable’s have no common sense! Just like When Obama was to bring this nation into a socialist society or take everyone’s guns! Biden was also going to take everyone’s guns and totally make this nation a socialist country 😂😂 go ahead what about what about what about! 
    That’s the 30% of the far right rednecks. They cancel out the 30% of your radical left liberals. Neither of them matter. Both think they are unequivocally correct and fearmonger crazy conspiracy theories.
    Both are drones to their party. The middle 40% laugh at both. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,299
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    KH should just keep on bringing it up specially at the debate make him own it or disown it on live Television make him lose his temper! 
    It wouldn’t matter to you. He’s already spoke and denied his involvement countless times. He was President for 4 years and this wasn’t his agenda either. Just like when radical leftists said he would start WWIll,  it’s just a fearmongering propaganda tactic. 

    As much as the Maddow crowd, screams hysterically about it, average voters with common sense don’t really pay it any attention.
    Deplorable’s have no common sense! Just like When Obama was to bring this nation into a socialist society or take everyone’s guns! Biden was also going to take everyone’s guns and totally make this nation a socialist country 😂😂 go ahead what about what about what about! 
    That’s the 30% of the far right rednecks. They cancel out the 30% of your radical left liberals. Neither of them matter. Both think they are unequivocally correct and fearmonger crazy conspiracy theories.
    Both are drones to their party. The middle 40% laugh at both. 
    Is anyone coming to take your guns? 
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,668
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    KH should just keep on bringing it up specially at the debate make him own it or disown it on live Television make him lose his temper! 
    It wouldn’t matter to you. He’s already spoke and denied his involvement countless times. He was President for 4 years and this wasn’t his agenda either. Just like when radical leftists said he would start WWIll,  it’s just a fearmongering propaganda tactic. 

    As much as the Maddow crowd, screams hysterically about it, average voters with common sense don’t really pay it any attention.
    Deplorable’s have no common sense! Just like When Obama was to bring this nation into a socialist society or take everyone’s guns! Biden was also going to take everyone’s guns and totally make this nation a socialist country 😂😂 go ahead what about what about what about! 
    That’s the 30% of the far right rednecks. They cancel out the 30% of your radical left liberals. Neither of them matter. Both think they are unequivocally correct and fearmonger crazy conspiracy theories.
    Both are drones to their party. The middle 40% laugh at both. 
    Is anyone coming to take your guns? 
    Never owned a gun. I might have a super soaker that doesn’t work anymore that they can have.
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