Thoughts on current tour

MikeDigs

The_Giant_Midget said:

Went to 4 shows so far, both LV & LA and have Ohana upcoming in Sept...I wrote this in one of my fanviews but I think after seeing shows on this tour the answer is doing special fanclub type shows for the hardcore fans. I know it most likely won't happen again like they did in the Vic Theatre but it would alleviate a lot of this setlist debate stuff.

It sounds like you are in for a Pearl Jam Day concert.  Let us manifest it https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/302920/pearl-jam-day-concert#latest

bootlegger10

Douglas12373 said:

Anyone complaining about the teleprompter is clearly under 40. Also, wtf cares? How does it affect the show in any way other than Ed actually singing the right lyrics?

I didn't know he was using a teleprompter.  My view on the show doesn't change.  If knowing the lyrics allows him to focus on actually singing versus fumbling through a song and not having confidence in the right lyric, then I'm fine with the teleprompter.

Like with many things, technology like a teleprompter didn't exist when concerts started.  Machines that could call balls and strikes didn't exist when baseball was started.  Range finders didn't exist when golf started.  We hold onto traditions, but I would bet if technology was available in the past, we'd have a robot calling balls and strikes, range finders would be allowed at all levels of golf, and teleprompters would have been the norm.  THose 8 people against teleprompters should get over it.  

pjl44

Listening to the boots on Nugs, the band sounds excellent and the Dark Matter songs sound as good live as I hoped. 1/3 of the set being repeats in 2-night stands is too much though.

vedpunk

They should use the 2023 Austin shows as a template of how to play 2 nights in the same city moving forward.  Only 1 repeat and plenty of hits and rarities sprinkled into both shows.  But I get they need to play 5-6 new songs each shows so maybe max 7 repeats. 

Vedder4Prez

bootlegger10 said:

Douglas12373 said:

Anyone complaining about the teleprompter is clearly under 40. Also, wtf cares? How does it affect the show in any way other than Ed actually singing the right lyrics?

I didn't know he was using a teleprompter.  My view on the show doesn't change.  If knowing the lyrics allows him to focus on actually singing versus fumbling through a song and not having confidence in the right lyric, then I'm fine with the teleprompter.

Like with many things, technology like a teleprompter didn't exist when concerts started.  Machines that could call balls and strikes didn't exist when baseball was started.  Range finders didn't exist when golf started.  We hold onto traditions, but I would bet if technology was available in the past, we'd have a robot calling balls and strikes, range finders would be allowed at all levels of golf, and teleprompters would have been the norm.  THose 8 people against teleprompters should get over it.  

I haven't seen anyone against it? 

SandyRavage

11 shows and they still played 99 different songs. 

For reference, Guns N' Roses have been on tour since 2016 and still haven't hit that number after 300+ shows. 

RS65573

SandyRavage said:

11 shows and they still played 99 different songs. 

For reference, Guns N' Roses have been on tour since 2016 and still haven't hit that number after 300+ shows. 

That is why Pearl Jam is the best live band on the planet right now. I'm just saying they should lean into it. They have enough hits for 2 nights.

BF25394

jimjam1982 said:

Same as 2021 and leg 1 2022. A few slots for some fun songs. Mostly new stuff which is kick ass material.

Too many repeats. Maybe just don't play 2 in a city if you want to repeat 9 songs. Play one night and hit more different cities... reducing travel for fans = Less carbon footprint. Playing 2 encourages travel = worse for environment. Practice what you preach boys. The concept of playing 2 is basically the 2 nights = 1 long show and they strayed from that.

Visuals are neat but they should get rid of them since it dictated too much standardization of the setlists.

Band does sound great. They are really energized. Stone looks happy. Mike shreds. Jeff does Jeff things. MFC is MFC.

Edit: apologies to Boom and Josh they are also fantastic and always seem to be smiling, don't want to omit them! Love what they bring to the table.

Let's move the EV solo song back to preset before the opening act. Band can take 5 extra minutes and play a group song in that slot. They don't exactly flirt with curfew which appears to be 11:30 as shows end regularly about 11:15 these days. 

Let Stone sing.

My 2024 leg 1 summary. A step backwards from 2023 shows. 

The EV solo song is where it is because it gives the rest of the band a full ten-minute break.

darthvedder

Vedder4Prez said:

bootlegger10 said:

Douglas12373 said:

Anyone complaining about the teleprompter is clearly under 40. Also, wtf cares? How does it affect the show in any way other than Ed actually singing the right lyrics?

I didn't know he was using a teleprompter.  My view on the show doesn't change.  If knowing the lyrics allows him to focus on actually singing versus fumbling through a song and not having confidence in the right lyric, then I'm fine with the teleprompter.

Like with many things, technology like a teleprompter didn't exist when concerts started.  Machines that could call balls and strikes didn't exist when baseball was started.  Range finders didn't exist when golf started.  We hold onto traditions, but I would bet if technology was available in the past, we'd have a robot calling balls and strikes, range finders would be allowed at all levels of golf, and teleprompters would have been the norm.  THose 8 people against teleprompters should get over it.  

I haven't seen anyone against it? 

Hasn't Eddie used a notebook for years as a lyrical aid? I don't see much difference between that and a teleprompter.

SandyRavage

RS65573 said:

SandyRavage said:

11 shows and they still played 99 different songs. 

For reference, Guns N' Roses have been on tour since 2016 and still haven't hit that number after 300+ shows. 

That is why Pearl Jam is the best live band on the planet right now. I'm just saying they should lean into it. They have enough hits for 2 nights.

I still think Billy Strings give them a run for their money 

For example, Billys first 3 shows of 2024 were a 3 night run in Asheville, NC. 

3 nights. 22 songs each night (his jams are long...). 66 DIFFERENT songs played over THREE nights. 

Theres no better bang for your buck than that. 

RS65573

I should have said best live ROCK band. Billy is great, just not my bag.

Vedder4Prez

MMJ definitely has them beat and almost everyone beat on setlist creating and variety. 

And they are a ROCK band 

RS65573

Vedder4Prez said:

MMJ definitely has them beat and almost everyone beat on setlist creating and variety. 

And they are a ROCK band 

They dont have any hit songs. Do they? I dont know any.

SandyRavage

Either way, no love for Lightning Bolt (the song OR the Album) on this leg and idk how i feel about it

SR91748

Last night's show was great!! My head is numb, from the noise, the smiles. I'm a happy camper and grateful that they are still able to put on a great show and that I'm able to attend. They clearly care. Having lived in the Seattle area since back when, there is also something very special about the homecoming shows, that I feel in my heart, as I watch them and look around.

JimmyV

Vedder4Prez said:

MMJ definitely has them beat and almost everyone beat on setlist creating and variety. 

And they are a ROCK band 

Saw them at a festival several years ago and was bored. I know many love them but they do nothing for me. We left early. 

JeBurkhardt

JimmyV said:

Vedder4Prez said:

MMJ definitely has them beat and almost everyone beat on setlist creating and variety. 

And they are a ROCK band 

Saw them at a festival several years ago and was bored. I know many love them but they do nothing for me. We left early. 

I have tried a couple of times to listen and try to get into MMJ and just can't.

The_Giant_Midget

Current MMJ vs current PJ, MMJ wins by a large margin. If we’re talking different era PJ it’s a lot closer. 

pjl44

vedpunk said:

They should use the 2023 Austin shows as a template of how to play 2 nights in the same city moving forward.  Only 1 repeat and plenty of hits and rarities sprinkled into both shows.  But I get they need to play 5-6 new songs each shows so maybe max 7 repeats. 

They could repeat one Dark Matter song, split the other 10, and still be at 6 new songs each night. I for one would be totally welcoming of that.

Necessary caveats: Yes I realize it may be a function of the screen and visuals. Yes I realize they can do whatever they want. Yes I know what [insert any other band who plays arenas] does with their setlist. Etc., etc. My two cents regardless. (Not directed at vedpunk who I seem to directionally be in agreement with.)

pjl44

The_Giant_Midget said:

Current MMJ vs current PJ, MMJ wins by a large margin. If we’re talking different era PJ it’s a lot closer. 

I agree with you but that's likely because My Morning Jacket is also in my top tier with Pearl Jam. I would definitely choose them if both were playing the same night right now. Hell, if the setlist situation is shaking out similarly in US leg 2 I'll skip one of the Fenway shows to see Clutch.