Thoughts on current tour

tylermoore

SandyRavage said:

Either way, no love for Lightning Bolt (the song OR the Album) on this leg and idk how i feel about it

In Seattle too, not one Gigaton song right? Except River Cross. Which was an Ed song. Not that I was terribly upset, just surprised since they hadn’t played there since it was out. 

demetrios

tylermoore said:

SandyRavage said:

Either way, no love for Lightning Bolt (the song OR the Album) on this leg and idk how i feel about it

In Seattle too, not one Gigaton song right? Except River Cross. Which was an Ed song. Not that I was terribly upset, just surprised since they hadn’t played there since it was out. 

Wow that is a shocker. 

jonbond1779

OK - so I wanna get a bootleg from this tour, but where they have the best Dark Matter performances - any recommendations? 

Lifted

jonbond1779 said:

OK - so I wanna get a bootleg from this tour, but where they have the best Dark Matter performances - any recommendations? 

Get a nugs subscription, then you don’t have to pick. It’s worth it.

JB221794

Hankj25 said:

Daron Oshay said:

Only complaint is more Won’t Tell and Got to Give

Seconded!

Thirded !  Really wanted at least one to show up in Seattle.

bootleg

To me repeating 9 songs in a 2 night is a little bit of a let down.  And I’ve never heard these songs before so it’s only the first times seeing them but after the first night I was definitely less excited to hear them the next night especially since I knew they were coming.  The whole allure of going to multiple shows is you never know what you are going to get.

As far as the screen goes, to me it doesn’t add a whole lot and after the novelty of seeing it the first night I didn’t watch it once the second night.  I’d much rather see a close up of Mike shredding for 5 min straight behind his head than a few lasers, and waves.  Setting Sun has the most interesting visuals which is unfortunately why they have probably decided to close with it every night.  Again I like to be surprised even if it’s been a small rotation over the last few years.

Third, ticket prices and traveling is freaking expensive.  Maybe it’s because I haven’t really traveled a whole lot since Covid but it’s not cheap.   Grateful I can afford it and normally I would be looking to add more shows but the cost plus the set list formula does detract me from trying to go to more.

seanwon

JB221794 said:

Hankj25 said:

Daron Oshay said:

Only complaint is more Won’t Tell and Got to Give

Seconded!

Thirded !  Really wanted at least one to show up in Seattle.

Fourthded!

PJNB

bootleg said:

To me repeating 9 songs in a 2 night is a little bit of a let down.  And I’ve never heard these songs before so it’s only the first times seeing them but after the first night I was definitely less excited to hear them the next night especially since I knew they were coming.  The whole allure of going to multiple shows is you never know what you are going to get.

As far as the screen goes, to me it doesn’t add a whole lot and after the novelty of seeing it the first night I didn’t watch it once the second night.  I’d much rather see a close up of Mike shredding for 5 min straight behind his head than a few lasers, and waves.  Setting Sun has the most interesting visuals which is unfortunately why they have probably decided to close with it every night.  Again I like to be surprised even if it’s been a small rotation over the last few years.

Third, ticket prices and traveling is freaking expensive.  Maybe it’s because I haven’t really traveled a whole lot since Covid but it’s not cheap.   Grateful I can afford it and normally I would be looking to add more shows but the cost plus the set list formula does detract me from trying to go to more.

All good points. 

Lerxst1992

PJNB said:

bootleg said:

To me repeating 9 songs in a 2 night is a little bit of a let down.  And I’ve never heard these songs before so it’s only the first times seeing them but after the first night I was definitely less excited to hear them the next night especially since I knew they were coming.  The whole allure of going to multiple shows is you never know what you are going to get.

As far as the screen goes, to me it doesn’t add a whole lot and after the novelty of seeing it the first night I didn’t watch it once the second night.  I’d much rather see a close up of Mike shredding for 5 min straight behind his head than a few lasers, and waves.  Setting Sun has the most interesting visuals which is unfortunately why they have probably decided to close with it every night.  Again I like to be surprised even if it’s been a small rotation over the last few years.

Third, ticket prices and traveling is freaking expensive.  Maybe it’s because I haven’t really traveled a whole lot since Covid but it’s not cheap.   Grateful I can afford it and normally I would be looking to add more shows but the cost plus the set list formula does detract me from trying to go to more.

All good points. 

They are. They spent their career building “their thing” immersed into a crowd completely surrounded by fans and they were very good at bringing the show to the entire crowd. Now it seems Ed really wants to try the Sphere (based on the screen and his crowd poll about traveling to Bottlerock and turning to the band “see they all travel here”). Talk about expensive tickets, being a mile from the stage and burning carbon, hello Vegas! 

Let’s face it, I’ll love the show when it gets to the east. Five new tunes would be plenty. As would packing in an extra five thousand fans per night (instead of that weirdly shaped screen) especially if their touring to all of our towns is going to get cut by turning into a residency band.

OfThePearl

I would rather see more close ups of the band members than the light show. Isn't that why we all clamor for closer seats, and are always looking for upgrades and GA, to see the band as close as possible? To get more nuance, facial expressions, emotional connection, etc.
They are working their asses off up there, but you definitely lose some of that with distance.
I guess the visuals bring them more up to date with some of the cutting edge Sphere-like production. I get that they would want to incorporate something current into the show.
Since they are using the screen, maybe a little more band viisuals in the mix?

thomascbullock

spankyMP said:

Douglas12373 said:

Anyone complaining about the teleprompter is clearly under 40. Also, wtf cares? How does it affect the show in any way other than Ed actually singing the right lyrics?

Teleprompter is a good thing. As great as the Austin shows were last year and how great Ed sounded, he flubbed a lot of lyrics...a lot

Yes I would like to hear Save You with a teleprompter next time.

pjcam

jonbond1779 said:

OK - so I wanna get a bootleg from this tour, but where they have the best Dark Matter performances - any recommendations? 

-LA N1 
-Seattle N2 
-Vancouver N2 

TheBeardedFellow

I dont have a lot of thoughts other than these shows have all looked awesome and i'm pumped for everyone that got to go to one/some and i can't wait to see what the tour looks like when my time comes up in Indy and Chicago:)

jimjam1982

BF25394 said:

jimjam1982 said:

BF25394 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Same as 2021 and leg 1 2022. A few slots for some fun songs. Mostly new stuff which is kick ass material.

Too many repeats. Maybe just don't play 2 in a city if you want to repeat 9 songs. Play one night and hit more different cities... reducing travel for fans = Less carbon footprint. Playing 2 encourages travel = worse for environment. Practice what you preach boys. The concept of playing 2 is basically the 2 nights = 1 long show and they strayed from that.

Visuals are neat but they should get rid of them since it dictated too much standardization of the setlists.

Band does sound great. They are really energized. Stone looks happy. Mike shreds. Jeff does Jeff things. MFC is MFC.

Edit: apologies to Boom and Josh they are also fantastic and always seem to be smiling, don't want to omit them! Love what they bring to the table.

Let's move the EV solo song back to preset before the opening act. Band can take 5 extra minutes and play a group song in that slot. They don't exactly flirt with curfew which appears to be 11:30 as shows end regularly about 11:15 these days. 

Let Stone sing.

My 2024 leg 1 summary. A step backwards from 2023 shows. 

The EV solo song is where it is because it gives the rest of the band a full ten-minute break.

Thus i said take an extra 5.  I know why it's there and it shouldn't be.  They aren't flirting with curfew timers as I explained.

You want the show to stop for ten full minutes? They're not going to do that. And crowds would not like it.

You're making an assumption about curfews. They could be playing past 11 p.m. curfews and paying the fines and overtime. Or the curfew in some places could be 11:15 p.m.

Tool has an Intermission clock. It's like 15 minutes. It's fine.  Also breaking curfew is like a 25,000 penalty. They didn't fork over 250k in place of just starting 15 minutes earlier. Be logical

Another Clone

No Gigaton in either Vegas show either

Lerxst1992

jimjam1982 said:

BF25394 said:

jimjam1982 said:

BF25394 said:

jimjam1982 said:

Same as 2021 and leg 1 2022. A few slots for some fun songs. Mostly new stuff which is kick ass material.

Too many repeats. Maybe just don't play 2 in a city if you want to repeat 9 songs. Play one night and hit more different cities... reducing travel for fans = Less carbon footprint. Playing 2 encourages travel = worse for environment. Practice what you preach boys. The concept of playing 2 is basically the 2 nights = 1 long show and they strayed from that.

Visuals are neat but they should get rid of them since it dictated too much standardization of the setlists.

Band does sound great. They are really energized. Stone looks happy. Mike shreds. Jeff does Jeff things. MFC is MFC.

Edit: apologies to Boom and Josh they are also fantastic and always seem to be smiling, don't want to omit them! Love what they bring to the table.

Let's move the EV solo song back to preset before the opening act. Band can take 5 extra minutes and play a group song in that slot. They don't exactly flirt with curfew which appears to be 11:30 as shows end regularly about 11:15 these days. 

Let Stone sing.

My 2024 leg 1 summary. A step backwards from 2023 shows. 

The EV solo song is where it is because it gives the rest of the band a full ten-minute break.

Thus i said take an extra 5.  I know why it's there and it shouldn't be.  They aren't flirting with curfew timers as I explained.

You want the show to stop for ten full minutes? They're not going to do that. And crowds would not like it.

You're making an assumption about curfews. They could be playing past 11 p.m. curfews and paying the fines and overtime. Or the curfew in some places could be 11:15 p.m.

Tool has an Intermission clock. It's like 15 minutes. It's fine.  Also breaking curfew is like a 25,000 penalty. They didn't fork over 250k in place of just starting 15 minutes earlier. Be logical

Tool's intermission (not the song Jimmy, lol ) is 12 minutes, they provide a countdown so we know exactly when to get back to our seats,  and you are right.  It's fine. 

Some bands play two sets and an encore, with a long intermission and that's great also. 

Not sure i get the $250k comment,  is that what they pay per show to go past 11pm?

If so, I don't get it from a band claiming to want lower ticket prices, and lower premium prices,  when they step on stage up to 90 minutes after show time.


 

pjl44

2.5 hour shows with an opener is more than reasonable bang for your buck

Johnny Abruzzo

pjl44 said:

2.5 hour shows with an opener is more than reasonable bang for your buck

If they have an opener you should be expecting about 2.5 hours and mid-20s in number of songs, and it's an album tour so expect plenty of songs from current album. Nothing different than prior tours with openers. And yeah, Deep Sea Diver put on an awesome show (don't think they mixed up their setlists - WAH!).

aurynsdad

I never could have dreamed that as its members hit 60 years old, my favorite band would be a) releasing fantastic albums and b) touring in strong form. I'm happy as can be. This won't last forever.

MikeDigs

aurynsdad said:

I never could have dreamed that as its members hit 60 years old, my favorite band would be a) releasing fantastic albums and b) touring in strong form. I'm happy as can be. This won't last forever.

x2, very very grateful.