Attending Missoula Show - Anyone experience Altitude Sickness?

efroten2efroten2 Chicago Posts: 83
I know the elevation isn't that high in Missoula (~3200ft), but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any altitude sickness there?
I had it pretty bad in Big Sky (~6800ft) when I visited back in 2018 and it took me at least a couple days before I could really do anything. Big Sky's elevation is obviously much higher but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any issues in Missoula?
Thanks.
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  • May 30thMay 30th Posts: 1,761
    My buddies and I went in 2018 to Missoula and no issues at all. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,027
    So that is why I was so winded on the hike up the M!!

    I can eat McDonalds again.  Sweet.
  • thirdbeachthirdbeach Posts: 164
    efroten2 said:
    I know the elevation isn't that high in Missoula (~3200ft), but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any altitude sickness there?
    I had it pretty bad in Big Sky (~6800ft) when I visited back in 2018 and it took me at least a couple days before I could really do anything. Big Sky's elevation is obviously much higher but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any issues in Missoula?
    Thanks.
    I have been to a few PJ shows there as well as the Rolling Stones show.  No issues for me but I hike a decent amount.  Quite a bit lower than Big Sky so that should help out.  Good luck - I'm excited for the show!!
  • marumarukomarumaruko Posts: 264
    The only time I ever felt slight altitude sickness symptoms, was at 11400ft. 
    Also from experience as a mountain guide, I can tell you that people are usually fine until 9800ft. 
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  • marumarukomarumaruko Posts: 264
    efroten2 said:
    I know the elevation isn't that high in Missoula (~3200ft), but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any altitude sickness there?
    I had it pretty bad in Big Sky (~6800ft) when I visited back in 2018 and it took me at least a couple days before I could really do anything. Big Sky's elevation is obviously much higher but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any issues in Missoula?
    Thanks.
    Can I ask what was your condition like on that Big Sky hike? Experienced hiker or the opposite? Balanced diet? Overweight, trained? Heart condition? 
    I'm sorry if this is too personal, you could answer me via PM. The reason I'm asking is that it could be vital information to further my knowledge.  
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    2018 - Padova
    2022 - Frankfurt, Krakow, Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  

  • jwhjr17jwhjr17 Posts: 2,022
    No issues in Missoula in 2012, and I was also just in Denver/Colorado Springs a couple of months ago and no issues there either.
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,990
    efroten2 said:
    I know the elevation isn't that high in Missoula (~3200ft), but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any altitude sickness there?
    I had it pretty bad in Big Sky (~6800ft) when I visited back in 2018 and it took me at least a couple days before I could really do anything. Big Sky's elevation is obviously much higher but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any issues in Missoula?
    Thanks.
    Can I ask what was your condition like on that Big Sky hike? Experienced hiker or the opposite? Balanced diet? Overweight, trained? Heart condition? 
    I'm sorry if this is too personal, you could answer me via PM. The reason I'm asking is that it could be vital information to further my knowledge.  
    I’m not the person you’re asking, but: I’m very fit, well trained, experienced hiker, etc. and I’ve found that on trips to Santa Fe (7000+ feet) while normally living at sea level, running seems like a good idea until about 50 yards in, and then it isn’t. We’ve done hikes in that area up to 9000ft or so and it was rough.

    I now live at low high altitude (4600’) and having acclimated to that altitude I can run at 6000ft or hike at 9000+ without any issues.

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  • Given to...Given to... Wyoming Posts: 4,997
    One of the only benefits of living at 6750' year-round is not having to worry about this.  But allergies at elevations where things actually grow cancels that out.
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 14,136
    Id be fucked I'm dizzy in London UK. So fuck altitude 
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  • marumarukomarumaruko Posts: 264
    efroten2 said:
    I know the elevation isn't that high in Missoula (~3200ft), but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any altitude sickness there?
    I had it pretty bad in Big Sky (~6800ft) when I visited back in 2018 and it took me at least a couple days before I could really do anything. Big Sky's elevation is obviously much higher but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any issues in Missoula?
    Thanks.
    Can I ask what was your condition like on that Big Sky hike? Experienced hiker or the opposite? Balanced diet? Overweight, trained? Heart condition? 
    I'm sorry if this is too personal, you could answer me via PM. The reason I'm asking is that it could be vital information to further my knowledge.  
    I’m not the person you’re asking, but: I’m very fit, well trained, experienced hiker, etc. and I’ve found that on trips to Santa Fe (7000+ feet) while normally living at sea level, running seems like a good idea until about 50 yards in, and then it isn’t. We’ve done hikes in that area up to 9000ft or so and it was rough.

    I now live at low high altitude (4600’) and having acclimated to that altitude I can run at 6000ft or hike at 9000+ without any issues.

    I was surprised that someone showed altitude sickness symptoms during a Big Sky hike. Lone Mountain, Beehive, Gallatin and Wilson Peak for sure, but at 6800ft? Seems unusual. As for New Mexico, honestly, I know way too little about the climate there. The heat and aridity might be a factor, I assume? 
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    2006 - Verona, Torino, Pistoia
    2007 - Munich
    2013 - Calgary
    2014 - Vienna
    2016 - Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Pemberton
    2018 - Padova
    2022 - Frankfurt, Krakow, Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  

  • efroten2efroten2 Chicago Posts: 83
    efroten2 said:
    I know the elevation isn't that high in Missoula (~3200ft), but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any altitude sickness there?
    I had it pretty bad in Big Sky (~6800ft) when I visited back in 2018 and it took me at least a couple days before I could really do anything. Big Sky's elevation is obviously much higher but I'm curious if anyone has experienced any issues in Missoula?
    Thanks.
    Can I ask what was your condition like on that Big Sky hike? Experienced hiker or the opposite? Balanced diet? Overweight, trained? Heart condition? 
    I'm sorry if this is too personal, you could answer me via PM. The reason I'm asking is that it could be vital information to further my knowledge.  
    I’m not the person you’re asking, but: I’m very fit, well trained, experienced hiker, etc. and I’ve found that on trips to Santa Fe (7000+ feet) while normally living at sea level, running seems like a good idea until about 50 yards in, and then it isn’t. We’ve done hikes in that area up to 9000ft or so and it was rough.

    I now live at low high altitude (4600’) and having acclimated to that altitude I can run at 6000ft or hike at 9000+ without any issues.

    I was surprised that someone showed altitude sickness symptoms during a Big Sky hike. Lone Mountain, Beehive, Gallatin and Wilson Peak for sure, but at 6800ft? Seems unusual. As for New Mexico, honestly, I know way too little about the climate there. The heat and aridity might be a factor, I assume? 
    Sorry, just seeing the replies.
    I should point out that this did not occur during a hike, it was not due to exercise etc. We were staying at Spanish Peaks which appears to have an elevation of ~8400ft. I'm not in great shape, but my understanding is that altitude sickness has nothing to do with what sort of condition you are in.
    We flew in, and drove to our rental house but had to stop at an office to pick up keys, details etc. Walking the short distance from the rental car to the office I could immediately tell I was short of breath.
    It was later that day when myself, my wife and my mother all started feeling the symptoms... headaches, very tired, shortness of breath and we just generally felt crappy.
    It was a couple days before we came acclimated to the oxygen levels and then were were fine the rest of the trip.
    I'm not in great shape, but I also had issues with altitude sickness when I was a teenager and I actually passed out once somewhere elevated in California. A doctor confirmed that it was altitude sickness at the time.
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,961
    When my daughter was living in Colorado Springs,(EL 6000) I decided a fun thing to do while visiting her would be to run a 5K. I live in Illinois (EL 449), so just a slight difference! That was tough, no altitude sickness, but catching my breath was not easy and afterwards I felt like I ran at least a half marathon. At least I was smart about it and I made sure to hydrate well before we got there. 
  • opsopcopolisopsopcopolis Posts: 1,205
    I'd imagine you'll be fine in Missoula proper. Just make sure to stay fed and hydrated, and if you're worried about it, don't do anything too strenuous on your first day or two. 

    As for Big Sky, you can absolutely get altitude sickness going from sea level to 7k-ish, especially if you don't properly prepare. First time I went to Denver from the east coast for a show, we hiked one of the flatirons on day one, and it messed me up pretty bad. Pretty sure those top out around 7kft
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  • efroten2efroten2 Chicago Posts: 83
    Not really planning to do anything prior to the Missoula show, just taking it easy. We fly in the day before, but we have GA so it will be a long day at the show depending on when we decide to get there.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,615
    I had altitude sickness in Wyoming.  Make sure to hydrate and don’t push it.  
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  • KN219077KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,146
    Not a common problem here, unless you have emphysema or copd you should be fine. Once you hit 5,000 or above it can start to affect people. 
  • favisfavis Billings, MT Posts: 19

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  • mr bunglemr bungle Posts: 1,358
    My only trip to Missoula was in 1998 for the PJ show.  Did not have any issues and didn't know until now that there is that much elevation. 

    For what it is worth, I was 25 back then and not much affected me the same as it does now! 
  • BRONDOBRONDO Columbus, OH Posts: 462
    my son just purchased one of the tix for the reception on 8-21 that includes a tix for the show on 822, says VIP merch WOOHOO
  • SR91748SR91748 Posts: 151
    If you go running, you might feel the altitude, but I wouldn't describe that feeling as sickness. I ran the Montana Marathon a few years back, out in Billings, and I felt the altitude a bit. I've been up as high as 18k and usually I've felt a bit dazed for a short while around 10 or 11k. But athletic activity is a stress test of sorts, and I've noticed altitude at 2500 and above, when pressing. I don't think it's really noticeable with casual activity. UV is something to be aware of too, on certain days. Love Missoula and Montana!
  • KN219077KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,146
    I wouldn’t worry about the altitude, but it is likely to be quite smoky at the end of August As the fire season is really kicking in, smoke is sucking in to western Montana. If you have asthma or breathing disabilities, it can be pretty hard on you.
  • favisfavis Billings, MT Posts: 19
    Reminder: Jeff Ament and Senator Jon Tester are coming to Missoula, MT on August 21st-22nd! Big Sandy’s favorite sons Jeff and Jon are reuniting on August 21st for a special reception to meet their fans. On August 22nd, Pearl Jam is performing their live show in Missoula with Ticket Packages available through the Tester Campaign.
     
    Purchase your tickets to the 8/22 concert and/or 8/21 reception here: actblue.com/donate/822pj
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