The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread
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 The idea of "big shows" is largely self-imposed. I'd wager that Monday night in Vancouver last year was every bit as good as Saturday night in Philly. Two random shows in Glendale (Phoenix) that I attended were both better than most of the eight MSG shows I've attended.HailHailVitalogy said:I have fomo for the big shows. Saturday night in Philly last year. Small venue in Florida and Friday night in Pittsburgh this year.By “the game” I mean that they know their fans are traveling for shows. Would Pittsburgh be this tough if they also played Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and/or Toronto? PJ still gets paid but they may want to do right by the promoter unfortunately.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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 I think I am something like 48/64 post 2020.cutz said:RatherStarved said:These guys won’t be around forever. Never miss a show you can reasonably get to.
 Right on RatherStarved.HailHailVitalogy said:Bingo Ken!
 25 of my 62 shows have come post-covid because of that thought
 More the reason for them to keep playing the places that have been neglected.
 I'm right there with you HHV as I've seen 28 since post-covid.
 I try my best to see as many as I can because I don't know who's gonna last longer: ME or PJ.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
 EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
 Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230
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            BF25394 said:
 The idea of "big shows" is largely self-imposed. I'd wager that Monday night in Vancouver last year was every bit as good as Saturday night in Philly. Two random shows in Glendale (Phoenix) that I attended were both better than most of the eight MSG shows I've attended.HailHailVitalogy said:I have fomo for the big shows. Saturday night in Philly last year. Small venue in Florida and Friday night in Pittsburgh this year.By “the game” I mean that they know their fans are traveling for shows. Would Pittsburgh be this tough if they also played Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and/or Toronto? PJ still gets paid but they may want to do right by the promoter unfortunately.
 I agree with you on this. The best shows are the ones off the beaten path on random nights. You just never know.0
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 I was at both Vancouver and both Philly shows.BF25394 said:
 The idea of "big shows" is largely self-imposed. I'd wager that Monday night in Vancouver last year was every bit as good as Saturday night in Philly. Two random shows in Glendale (Phoenix) that I attended were both better than most of the eight MSG shows I've attended.HailHailVitalogy said:I have fomo for the big shows. Saturday night in Philly last year. Small venue in Florida and Friday night in Pittsburgh this year.By “the game” I mean that they know their fans are traveling for shows. Would Pittsburgh be this tough if they also played Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and/or Toronto? PJ still gets paid but they may want to do right by the promoter unfortunately.The Philly show on Saturday was next level.To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
 "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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 Agree. That satuday show was one of the best i've ever seen. Not all shows are created equal.100 Pacer said:
 I was at both Vancouver and both Philly shows.BF25394 said:
 The idea of "big shows" is largely self-imposed. I'd wager that Monday night in Vancouver last year was every bit as good as Saturday night in Philly. Two random shows in Glendale (Phoenix) that I attended were both better than most of the eight MSG shows I've attended.HailHailVitalogy said:I have fomo for the big shows. Saturday night in Philly last year. Small venue in Florida and Friday night in Pittsburgh this year.By “the game” I mean that they know their fans are traveling for shows. Would Pittsburgh be this tough if they also played Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and/or Toronto? PJ still gets paid but they may want to do right by the promoter unfortunately.The Philly show on Saturday was next level.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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            I hope this idiotic Trump trade war spurs the boys to do a Canadian leg. Ill be there to support Canada if they do.0
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 I hope so too but I also hope some of their fanbase stays away. Have you seen some of the Facebook comments on the various pearl jam groups? Whenever someone posts support for Canada or Ukraine it gets nasty in the comments. I didn’t realize that the band had that many hard core republicans in the fanbase.pjhawks said:I hope this idiotic Trump trade war spurs the boys to do a Canadian leg. I’ll be there to support Canada if they do.2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City0
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 Thank you. Having divided one country, he is now trying to divide the continent. United we should stand!pjhawks said:I hope this idiotic Trump trade war spurs the boys to do a Canadian leg. I’ll be there to support Canada if they do.🇨🇦 🇺🇸PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
 EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
 Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230
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 🇺🇸 🇨🇦 🇲🇽RatherStarved said:
 Thank you. Having divided one country, he is now trying to divide the continent. United we should stand!pjhawks said:I hope this idiotic Trump trade war spurs the boys to do a Canadian leg. I’ll be there to support Canada if they do.🇨🇦 🇺🇸"A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0
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 ♥️darwinstheory said:
 🇺🇸 🇨🇦 🇲🇽RatherStarved said:
 Thank you. Having divided one country, he is now trying to divide the continent. United we should stand!pjhawks said:I hope this idiotic Trump trade war spurs the boys to do a Canadian leg. I’ll be there to support Canada if they do.🇨🇦 🇺🇸0
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 Yes good point.darwinstheory said:
 🇺🇸 🇨🇦 🇲🇽RatherStarved said:
 Thank you. Having divided one country, he is now trying to divide the continent. United we should stand!pjhawks said:I hope this idiotic Trump trade war spurs the boys to do a Canadian leg. I’ll be there to support Canada if they do.🇨🇦 🇺🇸PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
 EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
 Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230
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 All shows actually are *created* equal, but they don't all end up playing out that way. But my point is that some shows that people anticipate ahead of time to be epic based on location or night of the week turn out to be merely "ordinary," and a lot of shows in random places on odd nights turn out to be next-level.mcgruff10 said:
 Agree. That satuday show was one of the best i've ever seen. Not all shows are created equal.100 Pacer said:
 I was at both Vancouver and both Philly shows.BF25394 said:
 The idea of "big shows" is largely self-imposed. I'd wager that Monday night in Vancouver last year was every bit as good as Saturday night in Philly. Two random shows in Glendale (Phoenix) that I attended were both better than most of the eight MSG shows I've attended.HailHailVitalogy said:I have fomo for the big shows. Saturday night in Philly last year. Small venue in Florida and Friday night in Pittsburgh this year.By “the game” I mean that they know their fans are traveling for shows. Would Pittsburgh be this tough if they also played Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and/or Toronto? PJ still gets paid but they may want to do right by the promoter unfortunately.The Philly show on Saturday was next level.
 I gather speed from you fucking with me.0
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 For sure, but there are some highly anticipated shows that do live up to every expectation and even surpass the hype.BF25394 said:
 All shows actually are *created* equal, but they don't all end up playing out that way. But my point is that some shows that people anticipate ahead of time to be epic based on location or night of the week turn out to be merely "ordinary," and a lot of shows in random places on odd nights turn out to be next-level.mcgruff10 said:
 Agree. That satuday show was one of the best i've ever seen. Not all shows are created equal.100 Pacer said:
 I was at both Vancouver and both Philly shows.BF25394 said:
 The idea of "big shows" is largely self-imposed. I'd wager that Monday night in Vancouver last year was every bit as good as Saturday night in Philly. Two random shows in Glendale (Phoenix) that I attended were both better than most of the eight MSG shows I've attended.HailHailVitalogy said:I have fomo for the big shows. Saturday night in Philly last year. Small venue in Florida and Friday night in Pittsburgh this year.By “the game” I mean that they know their fans are traveling for shows. Would Pittsburgh be this tough if they also played Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and/or Toronto? PJ still gets paid but they may want to do right by the promoter unfortunately.The Philly show on Saturday was next level.
 2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20
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            When are we usually allowed to load tickets to our wallet? I see the option to do it now, but I didn't think it was something we could do until the week of the show."A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0
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 You can wallet them now. A couple of years ago you had to wait until the end but that was when the wallets weren’t tied to the TM account.darwinstheory said:When are we usually allowed to load tickets to our wallet? I see the option to do it now, but I didn't think it was something we could do until the week of the show.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
 EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
 Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230
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 Anticipation is one thing. We’re all aware people anticipate some shows more than others. But your statement about Vancouver and Philly 1 wasn’t about anticipation. You said that Vancouver was “every bit as good” as Philly 1. Don’t move the goalposts. Just take the L.BF25394 said:
 All shows actually are *created* equal, but they don't all end up playing out that way. But my point is that some shows that people anticipate ahead of time to be epic based on location or night of the week turn out to be merely "ordinary," and a lot of shows in random places on odd nights turn out to be next-level.mcgruff10 said:
 Agree. That satuday show was one of the best i've ever seen. Not all shows are created equal.100 Pacer said:
 I was at both Vancouver and both Philly shows.BF25394 said:
 The idea of "big shows" is largely self-imposed. I'd wager that Monday night in Vancouver last year was every bit as good as Saturday night in Philly. Two random shows in Glendale (Phoenix) that I attended were both better than most of the eight MSG shows I've attended.HailHailVitalogy said:I have fomo for the big shows. Saturday night in Philly last year. Small venue in Florida and Friday night in Pittsburgh this year.By “the game” I mean that they know their fans are traveling for shows. Would Pittsburgh be this tough if they also played Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and/or Toronto? PJ still gets paid but they may want to do right by the promoter unfortunately.The Philly show on Saturday was next level.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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 Bootleg-wise Vancouver night 2 sounds better than Philly night 1 and closed with Setting Sun. 😶🌫️on2legs said:
 Anticipation is one thing. We’re all aware people anticipate some shows more than others. But your statement about Vancouver and Philly 1 wasn’t about anticipation. You said that Vancouver was “every bit as good” as Philly 1. Don’t move the goalposts. Just take the L.BF25394 said:
 All shows actually are *created* equal, but they don't all end up playing out that way. But my point is that some shows that people anticipate ahead of time to be epic based on location or night of the week turn out to be merely "ordinary," and a lot of shows in random places on odd nights turn out to be next-level.mcgruff10 said:
 Agree. That satuday show was one of the best i've ever seen. Not all shows are created equal.100 Pacer said:
 I was at both Vancouver and both Philly shows.BF25394 said:
 The idea of "big shows" is largely self-imposed. I'd wager that Monday night in Vancouver last year was every bit as good as Saturday night in Philly. Two random shows in Glendale (Phoenix) that I attended were both better than most of the eight MSG shows I've attended.HailHailVitalogy said:I have fomo for the big shows. Saturday night in Philly last year. Small venue in Florida and Friday night in Pittsburgh this year.By “the game” I mean that they know their fans are traveling for shows. Would Pittsburgh be this tough if they also played Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and/or Toronto? PJ still gets paid but they may want to do right by the promoter unfortunately.The Philly show on Saturday was next level.------------------------------
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 Canadian leg with a detour to Vermont. Canada’s upcoming 11th province.pjhawks said:I hope this idiotic Trump trade war spurs the boys to do a Canadian leg. Ill be there to support Canada if they do.Montreal 98, 00, 03, 05, 11 
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 I think the 11th province should be New England as a whole. And to celebrate it we should get #PJ35 in New England.Falling Down said:
 Canadian leg with a detour to Vermont. Canada’s upcoming 11th province.pjhawks said:I hope this idiotic Trump trade war spurs the boys to do a Canadian leg. Ill be there to support Canada if they do.#Grievance20250
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 +1on2legs said:
 Anticipation is one thing. We’re all aware people anticipate some shows more than others. But your statement about Vancouver and Philly 1 wasn’t about anticipation. You said that Vancouver was “every bit as good” as Philly 1. Don’t move the goalposts. Just take the L.BF25394 said:
 All shows actually are *created* equal, but they don't all end up playing out that way. But my point is that some shows that people anticipate ahead of time to be epic based on location or night of the week turn out to be merely "ordinary," and a lot of shows in random places on odd nights turn out to be next-level.mcgruff10 said:
 Agree. That satuday show was one of the best i've ever seen. Not all shows are created equal.100 Pacer said:
 I was at both Vancouver and both Philly shows.BF25394 said:
 The idea of "big shows" is largely self-imposed. I'd wager that Monday night in Vancouver last year was every bit as good as Saturday night in Philly. Two random shows in Glendale (Phoenix) that I attended were both better than most of the eight MSG shows I've attended.HailHailVitalogy said:I have fomo for the big shows. Saturday night in Philly last year. Small venue in Florida and Friday night in Pittsburgh this year.By “the game” I mean that they know their fans are traveling for shows. Would Pittsburgh be this tough if they also played Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo and/or Toronto? PJ still gets paid but they may want to do right by the promoter unfortunately.The Philly show on Saturday was next level.To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
 "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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