The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

PrezIntense

Hope floats

Haijay

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

Haijay

JD87070 said:

drfox said:

Gravey1975 said:

whereamigoin said:

MikeDigs said:

While there may not be a Europe tour, I have a feeling that London might get a show.

I'm not sure they could make a London show/s work financially without it being part of a wider regional tour.

Agree. I do think there will be another Dark Matter Euro leg at some point. My guess is it will be double shows at London, Berlin, Amsterdam (all three of these are relatively close geography wise and have major airports) and 1-2 others. Same format as the 2024 legs.

I don’t know, from everything i read the European shows, and especially the London shows, didn’t sell all that well. Not sure they would put in the effort it takes to do another tour over there anytime soon with that being the case.

It was 95% price, with other artist overlap and late to the party being the other 5. You don’t think they could draw 45,000 in the UK? Please. 

Berlin at Waldbuhne in 2018 was sold out, 2022 was sold out. So what was the difference in 2024?💰💰💰, and they still at the end of the day they most likely would've been sold out or very close to it. Is a show that is 90% sold not considered successful? 

Manchester wasnt sold right out, but it didnt help that tm held back all those level 2 seats until a week before the show, and they were pricey as shit. 

matt84

Standing in Manchester was always available which is pretty crazy for a Manchester arena show. 100% it was the price - £170 I believe it was.

PJNB

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

Not sure if this is a joke post or not…

on2legs

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

🤫

demetrios

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

MikeDigs

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

Calgary.  Yes.  That would be my first visit to Canada.
Pearl Jam + Banff National Park

Hope floats.  Got hope in a boat.  Carrying hope on the Dream Train to Ohana P35

logan5ive

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

Interesting. Can you say if there will be a show on or close to October 22nd?

UseUrIllusions

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

Cool! 🤘

Spunkie

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

@HughFreakingDillon. Let's get your please cover the tragically hip in Winnipeg thread back up. 

Looks like Jeff will get to enjoy his Montana summer? 😊

setlist41

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

Hopefully Milwaukee too

MikeDigs

If Calgary is the final city on that leg, then it would likely be winter time.

Bring your PJ scarfs.

Lerxst1992

Haijay said:

JD87070 said:

drfox said:

Gravey1975 said:

whereamigoin said:

MikeDigs said:

While there may not be a Europe tour, I have a feeling that London might get a show.

I'm not sure they could make a London show/s work financially without it being part of a wider regional tour.

Agree. I do think there will be another Dark Matter Euro leg at some point. My guess is it will be double shows at London, Berlin, Amsterdam (all three of these are relatively close geography wise and have major airports) and 1-2 others. Same format as the 2024 legs.

I don’t know, from everything i read the European shows, and especially the London shows, didn’t sell all that well. Not sure they would put in the effort it takes to do another tour over there anytime soon with that being the case.

It was 95% price, with other artist overlap and late to the party being the other 5. You don’t think they could draw 45,000 in the UK? Please. 

Berlin at Waldbuhne in 2018 was sold out, 2022 was sold out. So what was the difference in 2024?💰💰💰, and they still at the end of the day they most likely would've been sold out or very close to it. Is a show that is 90% sold not considered successful? 

Manchester wasnt sold right out, but it didnt help that tm held back all those level 2 seats until a week before the show, and they were pricey as shit. 

Should they be touring for 2022 money in 2025? If they can see more fans and sell more tickets elsewhere for more money, should they pass that up? Eventually they should return but the Euro market seemed very indifferent this year.

Zen23

You are giving the impression that this is a completely normal and justifiable inflation. But it is not. The prices in 2024 were completely disproportionate for Europe. This is shown by the fact that all other artists who have already announced their concerts for 2025 and sold tickets are significantly cheaper than Pearl Jam in 2024. And in some cases cheaper than in 2022. I can only think of one artist who charged an even higher entry ticket price in Europe in 2024. Adele. With her mobile stadium for 80,000 people, which was set up especially for ten concerts in Munich. That says a lot.

drfox

Zen23 said:

You are giving the impression that this is a completely normal and justifiable inflation. But it is not. The prices in 2024 were completely disproportionate for Europe. This is shown by the fact that all other artists who have already announced their concerts for 2025 and sold tickets are significantly cheaper than Pearl Jam in 2024. And in some cases cheaper than in 2022. I can only think of one artist who charged an even higher entry ticket price in Europe in 2024. Adele. With her mobile stadium for 80,000 people, which was set up especially for ten concerts in Munich. That says a lot.

I have to disagree with this. £160 charged by PJ is the new normal now for globally famous bands who have been around for years. PJ was just one of the early adopters of the higher pricing structure. I have booked GNR and Oasis in London next Summer and I paid £178 and £169 a ticket (face value amounts), which are even more than what PJ charged last year. Some bands are still very cheap in comparison though - eg saw Fontaines DC a couple of weeks ago who charged £40 a ticket.

tino_11

PJ will need to wait for the market to catch up then because this is the first poorly sold tour they e done in Europe. Also, there’s a difference between £160 for golden circle/premium seats and trying to sell whole venues at this price. 

Oasis had incredible demand, particularly in the UK. So not a great comparison to use. Would be interest to see how GNR sells though.

drfox

tino_11 said:

PJ will need to wait for the market to catch up then because this is the first poorly sold tour they e done in Europe. Also, there’s a difference between £160 for golden circle/premium seats and trying to sell whole venues at this price. 

Oasis had incredible demand, particularly in the UK. So not a great comparison to use. Would be interest to see how GNR sells though.

GNR isn’t sold but just looking at Ticketmaster the nosebleed seats are much cheaper at £90 (the ones I paid for at £178 were on level 1). I think this was more the issue with PJ’s pricing, the flat rate charged on all seats. 

Zen23

drfox said:

Zen23 said:

You are giving the impression that this is a completely normal and justifiable inflation. But it is not. The prices in 2024 were completely disproportionate for Europe. This is shown by the fact that all other artists who have already announced their concerts for 2025 and sold tickets are significantly cheaper than Pearl Jam in 2024. And in some cases cheaper than in 2022. I can only think of one artist who charged an even higher entry ticket price in Europe in 2024. Adele. With her mobile stadium for 80,000 people, which was set up especially for ten concerts in Munich. That says a lot.

I have to disagree with this. £160 charged by PJ is the new normal now for globally famous bands who have been around for years. PJ was just one of the early adopters of the higher pricing structure. I have booked GNR and Oasis in London next Summer and I paid £178 and £169 a ticket (face value amounts), which are even more than what PJ charged last year. Some bands are still very cheap in comparison though - eg saw Fontaines DC a couple of weeks ago who charged £40 a ticket.

In the Euro area, I've never seen such an entry price of € 175 for Coldplay, Bruce Springsteen, Green Day, Tool, Foo Fighters, Slipknot and so on.

For the Foo Fighters I paid £ 95 for the middle tier with a great view close to the stage.

For Bruce Spingsteen I bought a ticket for 2025 in the upper tier with a good view for € 110.

For Green Day at the Ziggo Dome in Amsterdam, I got a ticket in the lower tier right next to the stage for € 99. The most expensive thing you could buy. Same price right at the front in the Golden Circle. The band is charging € 70 for GA tickets. Front row upper tier with a fantastic view of the stage for € 60.

Guns N' Roses 2025 in Düsseldorf starts at € 95 in the upper tier. Closer to the stage around 110 euros. Only the lower tier is € 159 euros.

Pearl Jam is the only company that has dared to call up a standard price of € 175 to the back row. And we now know how that turned out.

Yieldwaukee

setlist41 said:

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

Hopefully Milwaukee too

I back this statement (Milwaukee) 100%

tino_11

My own rationale used to be to think well of PJ for not charging more for best seats/front standing, thinking they’re doing it so it’s not just the richest fans who get to be at the front. Last tour was more like, they only want the wealthiest fans in the stadium! Turns out there’s not enough of them here.

kaw753

I went to Europe this past summer for the Euro and PJ. Germany, France, and Spain. Last minute hotel rooms in Euro host cities were 100 euros. Tickets to the games in the knockout rounds were less than a regular season NBA game. Everyone is well aware that GA tickets in Barcelona were easy to get. I had an incredible 4 course meal in Barcelona for 32 euros.

"Things" are just way cheaper in Europe these days compared to the US. A band charging $200US for an upper deck ticket is not in touch with the market. Especially a band that plays the same 8-10 cities every 2 years.

jh288035

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

Hmmmmm. I’m a bit dubious. Source? Those are all tiny markets. To avoid Toronto and Montreal wouldn’t make sense from a business perspective 

ally12

jh288035 said:

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

Hmmmmm. I’m a bit dubious. Source? Those are all tiny markets. To avoid Toronto and Montreal wouldn’t make sense from a business perspective 

I think it’s their Wishlist, they would play Ottawa before going to Winnipeg. To bypass Toronto wouldn’t make no sense either, one of their bigger Canadian markets.

JimmyV

Six Canadian shows between 2017 and 2024. 

Play Canada. 

Get_Right

Hartford sells out every time. It draws the NYC and the Boston fans. PJ still offers good value, but it is clear, at least to me, their management is maximizing revenue at this point. I am surprised at the mid-atlantic/southeast tour dates. I would not have guessed that. You never know with this band.

jh288035

ally12 said:

jh288035 said:

Haijay said:

jh288035 said:

Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour? 

There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgary

Hmmmmm. I’m a bit dubious. Source? Those are all tiny markets. To avoid Toronto and Montreal wouldn’t make sense from a business perspective 

I think it’s their Wishlist, they would play Ottawa before going to Winnipeg. To bypass Toronto wouldn’t make no sense either, one of their bigger Canadian markets.

Yeah, that makes more sense. Hamilton, Toronto, Ottawa, Monty and Quebec City is an easy run on the highway 

JimmyV

I don't know the details, but word in the past has been the promoter in QC prevents Montreal from happening on the same tour. Do with that what you will. As a Masshole, Montreal is much easier to get to than QC.

ally12

JimmyV said:

I don't know the details, but word in the past has been the promoter in QC prevents Montreal from happening on the same tour. Do with that what you will. As a Masshole, Montreal is much easier to get to than QC.

Makes sense why there is only one QC show vs 3 cities in ON. The band has been favouring QC city a lot so not sure if it’s evenko promoters or the band really likes QC city as it’s more quiet and less hectic.

SVRDhand13

Get_Right said:

Hartford sells out every time. It draws the NYC and the Boston fans. PJ still offers good value, but it is clear, at least to me, their management is maximizing revenue at this point. I am surprised at the mid-atlantic/southeast tour dates. I would not have guessed that. You never know with this band.

Have they not been back to Hartford since 2013? That was a legendary show.  Also loved 2008! (I missed 2010)