Is Dark Matter a breakup album? (not the band)

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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    I guess Ed is on the acceptance side of things just being, rather than right/wrong, black/white, good/evil side of things yet still struggling with life/death
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • Every song except Upper Hand and Something special seem to have end of a relationship themes.  Even React Respond (hearing about a partner’s betrayal) and Dark Matter (how it affects everyone else close to the partnership) can be interpreted that way. 
  • BlueLedbetter
    BlueLedbetter Posts: 1,380
    Some of it is but some could be about death or friendship ending Ed has loss like everyone 
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited April 2024
    Every song except Upper Hand and Something special seem to have end of a relationship themes.  Even React Respond (hearing about a partner’s betrayal) and Dark Matter (how it affects everyone else close to the partnership) can be interpreted that way. 
    I would argue that "Upper Hand" is a paradox of not having a choice over life's death .

    I would love to hear elaborations on your thematic viewpoint on all (or any) the other songs! 
    Post edited by Spunkie on
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    When I look at the thread title change, I'm reminded again about how this album was recorded over two different periods in time.
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,533
    It can easily construed as an end of a relationship song.
    An ending caused by a death or a breakup or just drifting apart. 

    Could be about a significant other 
    A pet
    A best friend
    A band mate
    A family member 

    For me it's about a significant other

  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 897
    It can be interpreted multiple ways. Micro and macro. The chorus of Scared of Fear could be about a couple that’s lost their spark, it could also be about a society who can’t stop yelling at strangers over what beer brands they’re boycotting. Upper Hand & Setting Sun hit my ear more as mortality songs than breakup songs but both are intense never-see-you-again moments so it could be either or both. Most of the album can be read both ways. Although I think Wreckage is more clearly relationship based while DM & Running feel more clearly societal if not straight up political.
    The ambiguity & multiple meanings have always been a strength of EV, and I think really well done this time. Most of these songs can mean what you need them to mean.
  • trees
    trees Columbus OHIO Posts: 2,065
    It's a great album like the rest of all thier Albums. 
    Very talented professional musicians .



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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,985
    edited April 2024
    Being Ed
    i hear a lil of end to civility between countrymen/ women in scared of fear

    we could get together and disagree/ present day it’s polarized 

    but could very well be about personal relationships too


  • bicyclejoe
    bicyclejoe USA Posts: 1,203
    I actually think it's a reconciliation album.
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,967
    I hear end of relationship in pretty much every song and so has every one i know who has listened. It's a sad lyric album


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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,960
    I think theres so many things in the world that are threatening to end that could be influencing lyrics. I don't think this is about any personal relationship. Especially if it was recorded over a year ago.

  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,862
    Spunkie said:
    And there's like a reference to a secret (not the won't tell ones). This to me suggests extra-curricular marital affairs, like Sleeping by self. That would border

    taboo, shameful topic etc and should not be but is cuz of the christianity construct of marriage versus people accepted as animals who just like to f@**

  • primussucks
    primussucks Posts: 2,365
    Wreckage is definitely about the ending of a relationship.  I can definitely see how other songs on the record could be interpreted that way as well but songs like Scared of Fear to me is more of Ed reflecting back to a time when his fellow musician friends were all alive.  I think Setting Sun also reflects back on that as well.  
    But I think people should keep in mind that half of this record was recorded 3 years ago before they start speculating....
    Dark Matter was recorded over 2 recording sessions.  The first in July 2021, the 2nd in March 2023.
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  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,383
    Listened for the first time last night. All throughout the album I hear relationship issues with a significant other 🤷🏼‍♂️. It is definitely a dark/sad album lyrically 
  • URthekey
    URthekey Posts: 1,914
    I get the feeling it’s a reckoning with the reality that death is certain, and life is not.
  • OfThePearl
    OfThePearl Posts: 966
    URthekey said:
    I get the feeling it’s a reckoning with the reality that death is certain, and life is not.
    I think that is the most accurate and concise evaluation I have seen yet. Included in that context are relationship endings of all types.
  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 897
    Whether your wife leaves with the reaper or leaves with the milkman, you will never see her again 😉
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    ^ not if you don't give a fuck who's wrong or right?
    I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef 
    Animals were hiding behind the Coral 
    Except for little Turtle
    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
    Gurgle Gurgle