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Is Dark Matter a breakup album? (not the band)

pistol petepistol pete Posts: 15
edited April 20 in The Porch
Album is littered with end of a relationship lyrics.  The more I listen, the more I hear it everywhere.  
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    spankyMPspankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 1,196
    IBTL
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    edited April 20


    Thematic, not personal - reminder

    Maybe change thread title?

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    hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,869
    had it not been for the "we have one or two good records left in us" comment, I would be paranoid this was it.  Sort like my Paranoia for Explosions In The Sky's latest THE END, and The End Tour.....
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    southpsouthp Posts: 271
    I feel it’s more about saying goodbye to his friends and peers. Setting Sun could finally be that song for Kurt (the one we thought Immortality was)
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    Suicide ideation lyrics omitted from print in one song.
    Definitely :heartbreak:
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,106
    edited April 20
    WRITING PERSONAL LYRICS


    at the same time


    NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS OR INTERPRET THE PERSONAL LYRICS IN THE FANCLUB
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    The Wreckage Victor and other left for dead... adds support to this argument
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    But the "timing" in upper points to death/end in general not necessarily relationship 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,828
    spankyMP said:
    IBTL
    Ridiculous that that thread got closed. We can’t discuss that? 😂
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    edited April 20
    And setting sun, Jung would see as a season of winter in Earth revolutions, has a bitofa two person good-bye. Makes me think of Ed at a bedside, thinking of his, so not necessarily relation break up, but sort of by not making room for three in the song
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    Any other littering I'm missing?
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    WRITING PERSONAL LYRICS


    at the same time


    NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS OR INTERPRET THE PERSONAL LYRICS IN THE FANCLUB
    Is that the rule?
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,828
    Spunkie said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    WRITING PERSONAL LYRICS


    at the same time


    NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS OR INTERPRET THE PERSONAL LYRICS IN THE FANCLUB
    Is that the rule?
    Apparently. Another thread got closed because of it.
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    maverickmaverick Posts: 1,185
    Spunkie said:
    Suicide ideation lyrics omitted from print in one song.
    Definitely :heartbreak:
    Which is the one you speak of?  
    Physical version has not arrived yet
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    Something give? What's it called again?
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    "Got to Give"

    Glad we still need to buy a physical tape to get words :rofl:
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    nicknyr15 said:
    Spunkie said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    WRITING PERSONAL LYRICS


    at the same time


    NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS OR INTERPRET THE PERSONAL LYRICS IN THE FANCLUB
    Is that the rule?
    Apparently. Another thread got closed because of it.
    Ya, Sea reminded us to discuss theme, not personal, thus my suggestion to change thread title.
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    Well OP, you see any other threads of thought along this vibe?
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    "Losing time" in DM, more like an seasons of age thing. 

    And the biblical shit - death generally
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    And there's like a reference to a secret (not the won't tell ones). This to me suggests extra-curricular marital affairs, like Sleeping by self. That would border

    taboo, shameful topic etc and should not be but is cuz of the christianity construct of marriage versus people accepted as animals who just like to f@**
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    I guess Ed is on the acceptance side of things just being, rather than right/wrong, black/white, good/evil side of things yet still struggling with life/death
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    pistol petepistol pete Posts: 15
    Every song except Upper Hand and Something special seem to have end of a relationship themes.  Even React Respond (hearing about a partner’s betrayal) and Dark Matter (how it affects everyone else close to the partnership) can be interpreted that way. 
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    BlueLedbetterBlueLedbetter Posts: 1,172
    Some of it is but some could be about death or friendship ending Ed has loss like everyone 
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    edited April 20
    pistol pete said:
    Every song except Upper Hand and Something special seem to have end of a relationship themes.  Even React Respond (hearing about a partner’s betrayal) and Dark Matter (how it affects everyone else close to the partnership) can be interpreted that way. 
    I would argue that "Upper Hand" is a paradox of not having a choice over life's death .

    I would love to hear elaborations on your thematic viewpoint on all (or any) the other songs! 
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,664
    When I look at the thread title change, I'm reminded again about how this album was recorded over two different periods in time.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,562
    It can easily construed as an end of a relationship song.
    An ending caused by a death or a breakup or just drifting apart. 

    Could be about a significant other 
    A pet
    A best friend
    A band mate
    A family member 

    For me it's about a significant other

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    kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 629
    It can be interpreted multiple ways. Micro and macro. The chorus of Scared of Fear could be about a couple that’s lost their spark, it could also be about a society who can’t stop yelling at strangers over what beer brands they’re boycotting. Upper Hand & Setting Sun hit my ear more as mortality songs than breakup songs but both are intense never-see-you-again moments so it could be either or both. Most of the album can be read both ways. Although I think Wreckage is more clearly relationship based while DM & Running feel more clearly societal if not straight up political.
    The ambiguity & multiple meanings have always been a strength of EV, and I think really well done this time. Most of these songs can mean what you need them to mean.
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    treestrees Columbus OHIO Posts: 1,813
    It's a great album like the rest of all thier Albums. 
    Very talented professional musicians .



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    CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,221
    edited April 20
    Being Ed
    i hear a lil of end to civility between countrymen/ women in scared of fear

    we could get together and disagree/ present day it’s polarized 

    but could very well be about personal relationships too


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    bicyclejoebicyclejoe USA Posts: 1,165
    I actually think it's a reconciliation album.
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