So is this a divorcecore record?

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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,235
    More Coffee said:
    Oh wow.  My divorce hearing is May 20th.  This is perfect timing!  Hooray!!!
    She got the house.  I got my 10Club number.     
    Oh shit, sorry to hear this Lew. I hope you are doing ok and this is going to be a positive thing in your life. 


  • We All Believe
    We All Believe Eastchester, NY - Proud South Canadian. Posts: 863
    It's a recurring theme in a few of the songs, so I'm going to assume it's autobiographical. Can't see him being that gripped by someone else's relationship issues.

    FWIW, as someone else pointed out, it seems like all is well on social media, even though social media is The Matrix/The Void/Where The People That Thanos Snapped Disappeared To For Five Years. Maybe a prolonged rough patch post-COVID.
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  • left the porch
    left the porch Posts: 504
    edited April 2024
    We All Believe said:
    It's a recurring theme in a few of the songs, so I'm going to assume it's autobiographical. Can't see him being that gripped by someone else's relationship issues.

    FWIW, as someone else pointed out, it seems like all is well on social media, even though social media is The Matrix/The Void/Where The People That Thanos Snapped Disappeared To For Five Years. Maybe a prolonged rough patch post-COVID.
    Agreed, it was the theme of most of the album lyrically. Maybe they were going through a rough patch and have sorted it out, or they're just keeping it very private. Scared of Fear and Setting Sun especially felt like letters to an ex or soon to be ex. Something Special seemed like a father desperately wanting to tell his children that despite the marriage being over they still love the kids very much.

    I was with my brother and some friends last night and we all got the same vibe. Again, not saying they're autobiographical, but it wouldn't be the first time Ed has wrote about his personal life. Parting Ways, all the way to Future Days, Ed has never shied away from making it obvious what he's thinking and going through at the time he's writing. These songs were written over two years ago, so maybe it was just a bad time in their relationship. This definitely puts a new spin on the title Dark Matter. I thought it was going to be mostly about space and politics and instead it seems like it's about a man coming to terms with his marriage ending. 
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    Just try to remember that “Oceans” was about a surf board before trying to speculate on someone’s relationship.  
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    It could be about close friendships and even family relationships that have turned sour over the years.
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    More Coffee said:
    Oh wow.  My divorce hearing is May 20th.  This is perfect timing!  Hooray!!!
    She got the house.  I got my 10Club number.     
    You win. 

    Wait....how low is your number?
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  • seanwon
    seanwon Posts: 623
    Yes, this album is about Eddie's imminent divorce. Just like Parting Ways was about the bands imminent break up and retirement.
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    cblock4life said:
    Just try to remember that “Oceans” was about a surf board before trying to speculate on someone’s relationship.  
    Right, but the lyrics for these songs were much more specific. 

    I am 100% sure it's not an autobiographical album.  

    I just sense a bit of a theme going on.  A lot of the lyrics seemed related.  Not full-on "Concept Album", but some connections. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,594
    If it was one song I wouldn't think anything of it. It was several songs and I think that's why a bunch of people independently came to "jeeze I hope everything is ok "
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,332
    seanwon said:
    Yes, this album is about Eddie's imminent divorce. Just like Parting Ways was about the bands imminent break up and retirement.
    I always took Parting Ways as a nod to Ed’s previous marriage.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,594
    Personally I don't have any interest in analyzing it much beyond that but there's definitely a theme
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    seanwon said:
    Yes, this album is about Eddie's imminent divorce. Just like Parting Ways was about the bands imminent break up and retirement.
    Back in 09 people were freaking out that The End was the final song on Backspacer :lol:
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  • drakeheuer14
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    pjl44 said:
    Personally I don't have any interest in analyzing it much beyond that but there's definitely a theme
    Feeling the same. Who knows, but the theme was clear 
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  • More Coffee
    More Coffee Posts: 637
    pdalowsky said:
    More Coffee said:
    Oh wow.  My divorce hearing is May 20th.  This is perfect timing!  Hooray!!!
    She got the house.  I got my 10Club number.     
    Oh shit, sorry to hear this Lew. I hope you are doing ok and this is going to be a positive thing in your life. 


    Hi Paul!  No worries.  It's a positive change for me.  It was a very caustic relationship- borderline personality disorder.  I felt totally trapped.  I'm much happier and healthy now.  I'm in a great little town in a peaceful house with my daughter.  We have house plants!  We have both of the dogs!  I'm able to breathe again.  There's definitely life after divorce.                        
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    We All Believe said:
    It's a recurring theme in a few of the songs, so I'm going to assume it's autobiographical. Can't see him being that gripped by someone else's relationship issues.

    He's written plenty of songs that are telling stories about characters he makes up. "Better Man" is a prominent example of a song about a strained relationship that is not about him.
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  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 3,136

    Speculating that the lyrics suggest a certain topic is one thing, however, speculating about a band member's personal life is not ok. The band's personal lives are private. Gossip, not ok. Please don't do it.  It's all in the Posting Guidelines: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/228366/forum-posting-guidelines

    Thank you

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