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  • I haven’t seen a Fenway night 1 single or pair yet. For any section haha.
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    edited July 2024
    AB285441 said:
    SHZA said:
    AB285441 said:
    I know this may be beating a dead horse, but the frequency of errors and carting within TM seemingly indicates the Bot issue.  An established pattern exists.  This is clear evidence in my mind that this Bot/AI does exist and is instantly setup to purchase tickets selling at Face Value, only to appear later on stubhub.  Here are the facts:

    -On 7/29 at 2:49pm, 5 listings existed for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub.  No tickets available were showing Row 22. 
    -On 7/29, a pair of tickets for MSG N2, Section 120, Row 22 went up for sale on TM reseller exchange.  They were gone instantly.
    -On 7/30 as of 2:29pm, 6 listings exists for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub.  The additional inventory that appears is a pair of tickets, seated together within Row 22. 

    Screenshots below.  You may have to zoom your browser to see the screenshot.  




    Yes, we've seen many similar examples. However, that doesn't necessarily mean it was a bot. Since MSG is freely transferable, anyone could buy them and relist on stubhub. 
    Correct.  It doesn't mean it's a Bot that effected this transaction and purchased this specific pair of tickets.  My point is that the frequency of this type of pattern occurs seemingly indicates Bots at play.  
    I'm not sure why the frequency necessarily means bots, as opposed to humans simply recognizing an opportunity to buy as many tickets as they can to resell at a higher price. 
  • pipes5977
    pipes5977 Rhode Island Posts: 382
    Have a pair of Baltimore floor seats I will be putting up on TM later tonight. If anyone wants to try a timed drop pm me.
  • smagnus1
    smagnus1 Atlanta Posts: 203
    Guess I hit my limit for the day checking msg 2. TM thinks I’m a bot
  • jagerweis
    jagerweis Los Angeles, CA Posts: 212
    I haven’t seen a Fenway night 1 single or pair yet. For any section haha.
    I was lucky enough to score a pair a few days ago but there really hasn't been much. I think that will get change as we get closer.
  • jagerweis
    jagerweis Los Angeles, CA Posts: 212
    jagerweis said:
    I haven’t seen a Fenway night 1 single or pair yet. For any section haha.
    I was lucky enough to score a pair a few days ago but there really hasn't been much. I think that will get change as we get closer.
    Actually there is a pair up now! G8 Row 3.
  • AB285441
    AB285441 Posts: 201
    SHZA said:
    AB285441 said:
    SHZA said:
    AB285441 said:
    I know this may be beating a dead horse, but the frequency of errors and carting within TM seemingly indicates the Bot issue.  An established pattern exists.  This is clear evidence in my mind that this Bot/AI does exist and is instantly setup to purchase tickets selling at Face Value, only to appear later on stubhub.  Here are the facts:

    -On 7/29 at 2:49pm, 5 listings existed for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub.  No tickets available were showing Row 22. 
    -On 7/29, a pair of tickets for MSG N2, Section 120, Row 22 went up for sale on TM reseller exchange.  They were gone instantly.
    -On 7/30 as of 2:29pm, 6 listings exists for MSG N2 within Section 120 on StubHub.  The additional inventory that appears is a pair of tickets, seated together within Row 22. 

    Screenshots below.  You may have to zoom your browser to see the screenshot.  




    Yes, we've seen many similar examples. However, that doesn't necessarily mean it was a bot. Since MSG is freely transferable, anyone could buy them and relist on stubhub. 
    Correct.  It doesn't mean it's a Bot that effected this transaction and purchased this specific pair of tickets.  My point is that the frequency of this type of pattern occurs seemingly indicates Bots at play.  
    I'm not sure why the frequency necessarily means bots, as opposed to humans simply recognizing an opportunity to buy as many tickets as they can to resell at a higher price. 
    It's always humans behind it at the end of the day.  I'd imagine bots don't necessarily care about money, so this unequivocally points back to a human at some point in the transaction chain, with or without technological (as you've shared), divine, or some other type of intervention.  Seemingly was included in my post for a reason.  I was simply providing documented support of a case scenario I experienced firsthand.  Seems others have as well on this thread (hence, the idea of frequency and patterns).  Deduce from it what you will.  Or don't, the great thing about this is it's your prerogative.  
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,073
    I haven’t seen a Fenway night 1 single or pair yet. For any section haha.
    There were a few that came up last night - just nothing better than what I already have.

  • rylan
    rylan Posts: 230
    I have a pair of ten club N1 wrigley tickets FS. Section 130, row 6. PM me if you need tickets. Cheers
  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    Pair of Philly 1 just came and went. Sec 112 row 9. Good one
  • josermoreno
    josermoreno Posts: 191
    Lifted said:
    Pair of Philly 1 just came and went. Sec 112 row 9. Good one
    I got the dam error code!
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  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    Lifted said:
    Pair of Philly 1 just came and went. Sec 112 row 9. Good one
    I got the dam error code!
    I couldn’t even cart them, saw them too late
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,768
    Just U521d twice on Wrigley 2 GAs.  Anyone get them?
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • ninjadave
    ninjadave Jtown PA Posts: 154
    Gibson said:
    Pair of lawns for Noblesville going up.
    Edit: They'll go up as soon as Ticketmaster allows me. I've listed before, so I'm not sure why I'm getting the error this time around.
    I am also trying to sell Indy and it won't let me list it. I think its specific to Indy now....
    ~ ninjadave ~
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    2006 - Cleveland 5/20 and Pittsburgh 6/23
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    2010 - Columbus 5/6 and Cleveland 5/9
    2011 - Philly [EV] 6/25 and PJ20 9/3-4
    2013 - Pittsburgh 10/11, Buffalo 10/12, Philly 10/21-22 and Baltimore 10/27
    2014 - Detroit 10/16
    2016 - Philly 4/28-29 and Philly [TotD] 11/5
    2020 - Baltimore 3/28
    2022 - Ottawa 9/3 and Camden 9/14
    2023 - Indianapolis 9/10
    2024 - Philly 9/7-9 and Baltimore 9/12
    2025 - NC 5/11-13 and Pittsburgh 5/18
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    Going to drop a Wrigley 128 row 2 seat 9 night 2 for sale sometime tomorrow. 1 ticket. I really dont want bots to gobble it up and resell. It's 10c face. If you are interested in PayPal friends and family the ticket is transferable. Send a message. Work early but will check tomorrow. 

    Hate to do it but Wrigley has to wait for another time for me. 
  • Chicago August 29 - I have to seats for sale (face value) in section 231, row 3, seats 3 and 4. Feel free to ask

  • smagnus1
    smagnus1 Atlanta Posts: 203
    Missed out on yet another pair of msg2
  • bbdowell1627
    bbdowell1627 Posts: 177
    I’ll be dropping Section 112 Row 10 Wrigley 1 - tonight around 10pm central 2 tickets- $190 Ten Club price 
  • Sugarloafer04
    Sugarloafer04 Colorado // NYC Posts: 782
    Going to drop a Wrigley 128 row 2 seat 9 night 2 for sale sometime tomorrow. 1 ticket. I really dont want bots to gobble it up and resell. It's 10c face. If you are interested in PayPal friends and family the ticket is transferable. Send a message. Work early but will check tomorrow. 

    Hate to do it but Wrigley has to wait for another time for me. 
    it says your profile is private but I am looking for a single. DM me please
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    2018: Fenway 1
    2021: Sea.Hear.Now
    2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden 
    2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2
    2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2, Fenway 1, Fenway 2
    2025: Florida 1, Florida 2, Nashville 1, Nashville 2, Raleigh 1, Raleigh 2, Pittsburgh 1, Pittsburgh 2
  • yosi
    yosi NYC Posts: 3,153
    smagnus1 said:
    Missed out on yet another pair of msg2
    Sheesh. 
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane