How long do you think it will take TM to open Fan-to-Fan for Leg 1?

SHZA

Feb 25 to Mar 15

ilockyer said:

I asked TM UK on X about the UK shows and their response is copied below: 

"Replying to ilockyer

We’ll always provide the opportunity to transfer/resell tickets whenever we can, but these options aren’t available for every event. It’s possible that they may be available nearer the event date, but this isn’t something that we can guarantee. Thanks!"

Canned response for that type of inquiry  

JimmyV

Timeline for option 1 ends tomorrow. Release the hounds already!

spankyMP

April 1 to 15

c'monnnnn..........

pjl44

My professional experience is that customer service agents may give you wildly incorrect information at any time for a wide variety of reasons 

gotthebottle

April 1 to 15

I just want to get rid of my Vegas 1 and Sacramento tix...ASAP.  
My Sac was a good one too ... Row A seat 1 behind GA...

Zod

April 1 to 15

There's alot of unsold platinum tickets in Vancouver.  I'm guessing not until April.

craigraether

Strange that ( At least me) we are not seeing lots of advertising for the shows.... Ive seen very little movement on the available seats for CA shows. I think we will see the F2F turn on as soon as Monday, the availability of tickets creates the buzz and gets people looking at tickets. Some will just give up and buy premiums or limited view seats. I could also see only the first leg get turned on or it could be show by show starting with Van, PDX, SAC... . then a week later LV, LV, LA, LA...etc.. I would not be surprised if there are some efforts to discourage upgraders that buy too many seats in one show to move up/. Could be the tax is not added so each transaction will cost 15 per ticket extra 

mwplum

The level of deception by TM is so extensive and complex that it’s hard to describe to casual fans. Was talking with some concert-going parents this week (in their 40’s) and all believed platinum involved special access beyond a regular ticket for PJ. It was excruciating hear them say things like “those must be some pretty awesome tickets then” (assuming that by paying $600+ for Vancouver, they’d get VIP perks, etc). I found myself struggling to concisely explain they were just regular tickets labelled differently by TM (and that they will drop to face when don’t sell at those prices - or perhaps even below face if they start to compete via-a-vis fan-to-fan). 

The thing I miss most about the old days is transparency in the “primary” market. I miss those colour/price coded seating charts so much! Remember when we knew the prices before the onsale?  …and they didn’t skyrocket in real time 2 minutes into the general onsale? 

I feel like even most bands and their management don’t understand all of the subtleties. 

All to say, please open fan-to-fan asap! 

SSS81

I enjoy watching large chunks of seats pop-up for $600-$900+, sit there for a couple days. Then a single seat will disappear right in the middle, or a pair right next to the aisle seat. I can't believe anyone would not buy the aisle pair. It's all fake demand. I won't bother complaining about how these "premium seats" are what used to be 10C seats.

PJ_Soul

Feb 25 to Mar 15

It is saying on the Vancouver tickets that they won't be available until 2 days before each show.... Does that mean we won't be able to sell via F2F until 2 days before the show?!?! Would they really do that to us???

iOnlyownMymind

Mar 16 to 31

PJ_Soul said:

It is saying on the Vancouver tickets that they won't be available until 2 days before each show.... Does that mean we won't be able to sell via F2F until 2 days before the show?!?! Would they really do that to us???

No it just means you can't add it to your wallet until then. If F2F opens you can still sell whenever that happens. 

PJ_Soul

Feb 25 to Mar 15

iOnlyownMymind said:

PJ_Soul said:

It is saying on the Vancouver tickets that they won't be available until 2 days before each show.... Does that mean we won't be able to sell via F2F until 2 days before the show?!?! Would they really do that to us???

No it just means you can't add it to your wallet until then. If F2F opens you can still sell whenever that happens. 

Thank you! Thank goodness. I was worried.... I'm concerned in general. Tickets aren't moving for these 2 shows anymore at all, at premium prices (still at a minimum of $349, max of $838). Not even primo seats. They are clearly just way overpriced. I am anxious for them to come to to their senses and lower those to prices that will actually move them. a huge portion of the back half of the lower bowl is unsold right now, and even 2nd row floor and 1st row beside the pit won't move. It's crazy stupid.

RatherStarved

As of the public sale date there were 71 days until the Vancouver show.  The 10 club entry date was even earlier.  Now there are only 33 days.  Well under 50% or the original time.  

It’s beyond ridiculous at this point not to have fan to fan open.  

Weston1283

Mar 16 to 31

RatherStarved said:

As of the public sale date there were 71 days until the Vancouver show.  The 10 club entry date was even earlier.  Now there are only 33 days.  Well under 50% or the original time.  

It’s beyond ridiculous at this point not to have fan to fan open.  

Especially for those first 4 shows.  So many standard tickets still available, I think they know those might not sell at the $175 price point once F2F opens.

mwplum

This is exactly why I started the poll. While I am grateful to be in the building, we shouldn’t be forced into a scenario where we are forced to compete with TM in secondary market.The whole construct of “face value” is dead (as TM can fluctuate price during primary sale, then handcuff us in secondary).

If I remember correctly, this happened in the EV + Earthlings 2022 shows at Benny (ie not the charity shows last year). TM locked until last week or so before show, then wouldn’t allow people to sell BELOW face. I vaguely recall some saying they bought $600 premium during “primary” sale, then (once F-2-F finally went live), wanted to sell around the original “face value” price of $200is (which is what TM had released + reduced all remaining “premiums” for once they opened F-2-F). Unfortunately because they paid an inflated price originally, they couldn’t list on F-2-F below $600, and as such were forced to eat the tickets when they were forced into competing with TM. 

RatherStarved

There’s a lot wrong with the system.  Bring on more state laws.  

mwplum

Hell, this company is f-ing over fans world wide, bring in The Hague! 

mwplum

Tbh, some of the tactics are subtle that I highly doubt 10C and most bands are even aware. Imagine they have a million things to do getting ready for a world tour. My bet would be that they don’t know the F-2-F is off (or the effect that it has on fans).

ilockyer

Even later

PJ_Soul said:

It is saying on the Vancouver tickets that they won't be available until 2 days before each show.... Does that mean we won't be able to sell via F2F until 2 days before the show?!?! Would they really do that to us???

They being Ticketmaster... most probably. 
Hope not though. 

PJ_Soul

Feb 25 to Mar 15

ilockyer said:

PJ_Soul said:

It is saying on the Vancouver tickets that they won't be available until 2 days before each show.... Does that mean we won't be able to sell via F2F until 2 days before the show?!?! Would they really do that to us???

They being Ticketmaster... most probably. 
Hope not though. 

Apparently it is 10C/PJ. I contacted ticketmaster and they have no idea when the F2F sale will start. They said it is entirely up to the event organizers.