How long do you think it will take TM to open Fan-to-Fan for Leg 1?

mwplum
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I won’t go into a long explanation as to why it’s to TM’s benefit to stall, other than to make the simple point that, the longer they keep face value sales turned off (ie not allowing fan-to-fan), the more likely people will be fomo’d into paying the exorbitant “premium” prices (as that is all they will see when logging in). Given that most shows still have a lot of premiums available, what’s your ballpark guess for when fan-to-fan goes live for Leg 1?
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How long do you think it will take TM to open Fan-to-Fan for Leg 1? 116 votes

Feb 25 to Mar 15
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Mar 16 to 31
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April 1 to 15
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April 16 to 30
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  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    edited February 2024
    Feb 25 to Mar 15
    Tour starts on May 4, it will open soon. Last year it opened May 8, the week after 10c tickets were distributed so I think sometime in the next two weeks for sure. The theory that TM will delay making it available due to ulterior motives hasn't been the case in previous years. 
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  • Marieow
    Marieow San Francisco Posts: 100
    April 1 to 15
    Looking back on my emails from last year, the seat assignments (after the whole SNAFU) were sent 4/28. On 6/16, I was able to get F2F tickets by then (I upgraded my seats, basically). I think F2F went live early June, so I'm thinking late March, early April for this year. 
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  • patkelly12
    patkelly12 CT Posts: 361
    Even later
    depends on how premiums sell
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited February 2024
    I have not a clue. But I'm looking forward to this because I have STONE-side stage that I need to fix!! :whistle::wink:
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  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,735
    Mar 16 to 31
    I’m thinking a few more weeks to give TM the chance to sell off some more premiums before the market becomes flooded with face value seats. But being that the tour starts 5/4, I’m thinking it has to open up at some point before the end of March. What I’ll be interested to see is whether TM opens up F2F for all of the shows at once, or initially only opens it up for the shows on leg 1. 
  • LiveAtLeeds
    LiveAtLeeds Posts: 156
    Even later
    Don't think they'll be switching them on for certain venues at all (London, Berlin, Barcelona) Others, where tickets are scarce, probably mid April onwards
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,398
    April 1 to 15
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  • marumaruko
    marumaruko Posts: 414
    edited February 2024
    Mar 16 to 31
    LiveAtLeeds said:
    Don't think they'll be switching them on for certain venues at all (London, Berlin, Barcelona) Others, where tickets are scarce, probably mid April onwards
    No chance at that. Ticketmaster and PJ basically assured people to be able to sell them if they can't make it. 
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  • BSully
    BSully Indiana Posts: 1,503
    Mar 16 to 31
    I think it will happen sooner than we think.
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,023
    Mar 16 to 31
    Probably in a couple of weeks
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,891
    Mar 16 to 31
    Once the 2nd single is released. 
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,964
    dumb question but F2F is not a different site than regular Ticketbastard tickets is it?  Just someone can upload them and they show at the regular Ticketbastard page?
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,594
    pjhawks said:
    dumb question but F2F is not a different site than regular Ticketbastard tickets is it?  Just someone can upload them and they show at the regular Ticketbastard page?
    Correct
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    April 1 to 15
    In 2022 it was like a month before the tour.  In 2023 it was like a week after ticket sales - with only 9 shows for the whole year they had no issue selling tickets.  I think this one will be early April about a month early only because some of the shows have tickets that need to be sold.

    I'm more curious if they open it for the whole tour or NA Leg 1 only.
  • Lifted
    Lifted Posts: 1,836
    F2f appears to be open for Noblesville 
  • verceman
    verceman Posts: 701
    Here's a Fan 2 Fan question for the vets. So I am looking at Bleachers tickets in Philly. I missed teh presale but it looks like Bleachers were using a face value ticket exchange where fans can resell for face value. It says clearly that tickets are non transferable and mobile only. Iff you visit the ticketmaster site there is a drop down filter for the exchange but there are no seats available. However, I see tickets available on Stubhub and SeatGeek for like 2x face value. Have people found a way around this system and are reselling on the secondary sites, or are people who buy on Stubhub etc going to get screwed? I would think SeatGeek and these other sites would definitely not want that to happen, so how are these listings posted? I know lots of times there are postings for seats that are not yet in hand, but in this case if all the tickets are non transferable, how would this work?
  • Eddieredder
    Eddieredder Posts: 753
    verceman said:
    Here's a Fan 2 Fan question for the vets. So I am looking at Bleachers tickets in Philly. I missed teh presale but it looks like Bleachers were using a face value ticket exchange where fans can resell for face value. It says clearly that tickets are non transferable and mobile only. Iff you visit the ticketmaster site there is a drop down filter for the exchange but there are no seats available. However, I see tickets available on Stubhub and SeatGeek for like 2x face value. Have people found a way around this system and are reselling on the secondary sites, or are people who buy on Stubhub etc going to get screwed? I would think SeatGeek and these other sites would definitely not want that to happen, so how are these listings posted? I know lots of times there are postings for seats that are not yet in hand, but in this case if all the tickets are non transferable, how would this work?
    Speculative tickets for sure. A lot of time people post tix that don't even exist. Worst case scenario, they just refund the buyer and they just don't have tickets. 

    But to your second point, there is a way to get around tix being non transferable. People have already figured that out. 
  • mwplum
    mwplum Posts: 1,544
    TM still trying to amp up the fomo / drive people into thinking they need to buy platinum to get in
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  • ilockyer
    ilockyer Posts: 2,272
    Even later
    I asked TM UK on X about the UK shows and their response is copied below: 

    "Replying to ilockyer
    We’ll always provide the opportunity to transfer/resell tickets whenever we can, but these options aren’t available for every event. It’s possible that they may be available nearer the event date, but this isn’t something that we can guarantee. Thanks!"
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  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    April 1 to 15
    ilockyer said:
    I asked TM UK on X about the UK shows and their response is copied below: 

    "Replying to ilockyer
    We’ll always provide the opportunity to transfer/resell tickets whenever we can, but these options aren’t available for every event. It’s possible that they may be available nearer the event date, but this isn’t something that we can guarantee. Thanks!"
    I am confident that they have no idea what they are talking about at Ticketmaster. Take that with a grain of salt. 

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