Is there hate for Quick Escape? I think it’s a great song and needs to stay. Dotc, sbwm, who ever said, retrograde and seven o’clock will all stick around for a few more tours I think. Not every night songs but multiple plays.
Key PJ cities like Boston and Seattle as well as Aus/nz didn’t get to be part of the Gigaton tour so I’m sure some will make appearances there
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Whoever Said, Quick Escape, and the occasional / rare early set Retrograde - compare it to say Pendulum from LB.
DOTC should never be played again (great album song), just doesn't fit the set/flow of the band live it definitely killed the flow of almost all 11 Gigaton shows I was at and resulted in mass exodus to beer lines and restrooms - the others are deep cuts.
I liked most of them especially Never Destination - but they are definitely rarer songs now.
The first time I heard DOTC live was at Ohana in 2021. Mike was having guitar issues, so it wasn't the best version. The next 2 times I saw them (OKC 2022, FTW2 2023), it sounded great. Love that song.
I think Quick Escape, Dance & Seven O'Clock will stick long-term. I think they'll play Buckle Up, Who Ever Said , Superblood & Retrograde every once in awhile.
Quick Escape and DOTC for sure. Seven O'Clock, Retrograde, Whoever Said good chance. SBWM, No way Ed remembers those lyrics. I think second leg of tour it was pretty much dropped from rotation as well
If there’s a new album, they may ditch Gigaton songs for the most part
I always thought Sirens would be a staple forever, and I can’t remember the last time it was played.
With the shorter shows, if any Gigaton songs do make the cut, it’ll be the shorter ones, though. Can’t see them breaking out a 6 minute “7 O clock” or “Quick escape” that often.
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Is there hate for Quick Escape? I think it’s a great song and needs to stay. Dotc, sbwm, who ever said, retrograde and seven o’clock will all stick around for a few more tours I think. Not every night songs but multiple plays.
Key PJ cities like Boston and Seattle as well as Aus/nz didn’t get to be part of the Gigaton tour so I’m sure some will make appearances there
Quick Escape is a very mediocre PJ song for me personally. It’s kind of like the comedian Tim Robinson. Is he actually funny, or just really loud? Same goes for Quick Escape to me.
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Am i misremembering? but i swear that when Gigaton was released, it was nearly universally loved and praised on this forum? Funny after three and a half years its getting thrown on to the "post 2000" trash pile. As far as going forward, Id be thrilled to hear Dance, SBWM, Who Ever Said, or 7oclock at any show.
I will fully confess. I listen to the album far less than i thought i would.
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Am i misremembering? but i swear that when Gigaton was released, it was nearly universally loved and praised on this forum? Funny after three and a half years its getting thrown on to the "post 2000" trash pile. As far as going forward, Id be thrilled to hear Dance, SBWM, Who Ever Said, or 7oclock at any show.
I will fully confess. I listen to the album far less than i thought i would.
critically acclaimed as well
DOTC slammed here mostly...my friends who like the Hits, say its an innovative song that bless them after 30 plus years they are still trying new things and creating a fun tune
Am i misremembering? but i swear that when Gigaton was released, it was nearly universally loved and praised on this forum? Funny after three and a half years its getting thrown on to the "post 2000" trash pile. As far as going forward, Id be thrilled to hear Dance, SBWM, Who Ever Said, or 7oclock at any show.
I will fully confess. I listen to the album far less than i thought i would.
critically acclaimed as well
DOTC slammed here mostly...my friends who like the Hits, say its an innovative song that bless them after 30 plus years they are still trying new things and creating a fun tune
here....its trash
I loved DOTC, Who Ever Said and Retrograde. Rest of the album is a pass for me.
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I think when the new one comes people will give Gigaton lil more respect...it always goes down like this, Like No Code turning off 1/2 the fan base at the time...now its better than the 1st 3 albums to many
Gigaton wont get to that territory, but it will climb a few notches in the coming years
6 Gigaton shows for me.....never got Alright, Retrograde, Comes Then Goes. I have a feeling Comes Then Goes makes its live debut this next tour.
We did 4 Gigaton Canadian shows. Only song we didn't get to hear from Gigaton was Comes Then Goes. 2024 they will probably play it. Guessing @ Indy.
I highly doubt it! I dont think we'll ever see that song live. It's too personal for Ed and likely would lead him to get too emotional. I dont see it happening! Maybe once for some special occasion but unlikely...
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Is there hate for Quick Escape? I think it’s a great song and needs to stay. Dotc, sbwm, who ever said, retrograde and seven o’clock will all stick around for a few more tours I think. Not every night songs but multiple plays.
Key PJ cities like Boston and Seattle as well as Aus/nz didn’t get to be part of the Gigaton tour so I’m sure some will make appearances there
Quick Escape is a very mediocre PJ song for me personally. It’s kind of like the comedian Tim Robinson. Is he actually funny, or just really loud? Same goes for Quick Escape to me.
Couldn't disagree more! To me it's one of their best post 90's songs!
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Gigaton never grabbed me so I'm hoping for something completely different with the next album. The songs I heard were fine live, I'd just rather hear many other songs from the catalog with the shorter shows.
Am i misremembering? but i swear that when Gigaton was released, it was nearly universally loved and praised on this forum? Funny after three and a half years its getting thrown on to the "post 2000" trash pile. As far as going forward, Id be thrilled to hear Dance, SBWM, Who Ever Said, or 7oclock at any show.
I will fully confess. I listen to the album far less than i thought i would.
It wasn't praised here or on Facebook. I still listen to it regularly
DOTC and 7:00 are great album tracks that don't do well live ... on the other hand, Quick Escape and Who Ever Said crush live and I hope they stay as regulars ... and I'd vote for Retrograde as an 'occasional' tune
Surprised people here are saying DOTC didn't work live. I thought they pulled it off great. And when I first heard it I wondered if it would translate? If Josh left maybe it wouldn't. But I think it came out well
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Key PJ cities like Boston and Seattle as well as Aus/nz didn’t get to be part of the Gigaton tour so I’m sure some will make appearances there
2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9)
2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25)
2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24)
2010: Boston, MA (5/17)
2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4)
2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25)
2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4)
2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
DOTC should never be played again (great album song), just doesn't fit the set/flow of the band live it definitely killed the flow of almost all 11 Gigaton shows I was at and resulted in mass exodus to beer lines and restrooms - the others are deep cuts.
I liked most of them especially Never Destination - but they are definitely rarer songs now.
I think Quick Escape, Dance & Seven O'Clock will stick long-term. I think they'll play Buckle Up, Who Ever Said , Superblood & Retrograde every once in awhile.
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saw them all except comes then goes obviously
Loved the songs I heard: DOTC, Who Ever Said, 7 o’clock, Buckle Up, Retrograde, and River Cross.
Odd that I missed two of the singles!
I always thought Sirens would be a staple forever, and I can’t remember the last time it was played.
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2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
I will fully confess. I listen to the album far less than i thought i would.
Quick Escape
DOTC
Whoever said
SBWM
Once a tour
Retrograde
Never Destination
rare
Take the Long Way
Buckle up
7 o’clock
Maybe once or never
Comes Then Goes
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Wrigley N1 & N2 2024
DOTC slammed here mostly...my friends who like the Hits, say its an innovative song that bless them after 30 plus years they are still trying new things and creating a fun tune
here....its trash
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
We did 4 Gigaton Canadian shows. Only song we didn't get to hear from Gigaton was Comes Then Goes. 2024 they will probably play it. Guessing @ Indy.
Gigaton wont get to that territory, but it will climb a few notches in the coming years
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Alpine Valley 6/21/03
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Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
Grand Rapids 5/19/06
Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10
Alpine Valley x2 2011
Wrigley 2013
Milwaukee 14
Telluride 16
Missoula 6/20/98
Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98
Alpine Valley 10/8/00
Champaign 4/23/03
Alpine Valley 6/21/03
Missoula 8/29/05
Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
Grand Rapids 5/19/06
Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10
Alpine Valley x2 2011
Wrigley 2013
Milwaukee 14
Telluride 16
I also really like Superblood Wolfmoon, Seven o' clock, comes then goes.
I kind of feel like I do about Lightning Bolt. Not my favourite PJ albums but there's still 3 or 4 songs on each album I quite like.
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