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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,899
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    cuz we simply disagree with it? just maybe?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,436
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,245
    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?
    They're the "other". Not capable of managing their affairs. Supposed to comply when their house is bulldozed and their land is stolen, or their children are shot by settlers for throwing stones. Stay in their place and know their place. How dare they. Its like 1948-49 never happened and that the map the Swede posted is a figment of some other reality that doesn't exist. From the river to the sea, indeed. Scatter them like the jews were scattered, right? Eye for an eye? Let me know when Hamas is defeated, will you, Lerx? And Iran, and Saudi Arabia, and the rest of the Middle East. Bibi has set Israel back decades. Ask the majority of Israelis but if you do, you're an antisemite.
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  • mickeyrat
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    As rainstorm and Trump blow through Gaza, residents say they will never leave - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/rainstorm-trump-blow-through-gaza-residents-say-they-will-never-leave-2025-02-06/
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  • mickeyrat
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    A recipe for radicalism: Jordan raises red flags over Trump's relocation plan - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/recipe-radicalism-jordan-raises-red-flags-over-trumps-relocation-plan-2025-02-06/
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  • DE4173
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    I appreciate all of the links that you share, mickeyrat. Thank you!
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  • josevolution
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    Yeah just move folks by force so you can have sea side condos really humane! And who’s going to pay for the Palestinians new homes or are they just supposed to use cardboard to make shelter? This is vile behavior at best! 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Bernie didn’t get the memo, being the antisemite he is.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    cuz we simply disagree with it? just maybe?

    Yes. Disagreeing with more independence and wealth than was ever provided to Palestine from the international community.

    coming up with a plan that ensures the billions in reconstruction aid doesn’t end up lining the pockets of Iran and hamas, and lead to more war.

    at least admit to what you are supporting.
  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?

    care to answer?  its been ignored before. so I'm not hopeful.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited February 7
    cuz we simply disagree with it? just maybe?

    Yes. Disagreeing with more independence and wealth than was ever provided to Palestine from the international community.

    coming up with a plan that ensures the billions in reconstruction aid doesn’t end up lining the pockets of Iran and hamas, and lead to more war.

    at least admit to what you are supporting.
    Why is this so hard for you to
    understand? I support a peaceful transition to a fair two state solution. 

    “Fair” meaning for both parties involved. 

    Very simple in concept, incredibly difficult in execution. 

    I liked most aspects of your plan, however there was one glaring omission; you stated Israeli oversight until Palestinian motives can be trusted. I believe independent oversight (not the US) is required to keep both parties in check. 

    Problem is, that was done. And yahoo shat all over that. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,899
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?

    care to answer?  its been ignored before. so I'm not hopeful.

    My idea addressed this. Palestine should get a plan for autonomy, like Japan and Germany and many other countries that have successfully transitioned away from authoritarianism. They also need to negotiate, to give and take to achieve a treaty for peace , as does Israel.

    But there needs to be temporary oversight to ensure money and power does not end up in the hands of Iran and their proxies, as has occurred in the past. Those too young to have voted in 2007 are going to stand up against Iran? Without support and oversight from other nations in the region like Jordan, Egypt and the Saudis? 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,436
    edited February 8
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?

    care to answer?  its been ignored before. so I'm not hopeful.

    My idea addressed this. Palestine should get a plan for autonomy, like Japan and Germany and many other countries that have successfully transitioned away from authoritarianism. They also need to negotiate, to give and take to achieve a treaty for peace , as does Israel.

    But there needs to be temporary oversight to ensure money and power does not end up in the hands of Iran and their proxies, as has occurred in the past. Those too young to have voted in 2007 are going to stand up against Iran? Without support and oversight from other nations in the region like Jordan, Egypt and the Saudis? 
    istael retreats to the 67 borders. to live within tbe borders as set by the un.
    Palestine is a wholey soveriegn nation.


    end of negotiations 

    and no. you did not answer the question as posed.

    DO YOU EQUATE ALL PALESTINIANS WITH HAMAS.  very fucking simple. yes or no is sufficient. as I recall I've asked this of you several times. ducked it everytime,  including now.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,245
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?

    care to answer?  its been ignored before. so I'm not hopeful.

    My idea addressed this. Palestine should get a plan for autonomy, like Japan and Germany and many other countries that have successfully transitioned away from authoritarianism. They also need to negotiate, to give and take to achieve a treaty for peace , as does Israel.

    But there needs to be temporary oversight to ensure money and power does not end up in the hands of Iran and their proxies, as has occurred in the past. Those too young to have voted in 2007 are going to stand up against Iran? Without support and oversight from other nations in the region like Jordan, Egypt and the Saudis? 
    istael retreats to the 67 borders. to live within tbe borders as set by the un.
    Palestine is a wholey soveriegn nation.


    end of negotiations
    And gets the fuck out of Syria.
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  • battle1
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    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    And there it is, any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Why don’t you just admit it? That “river to the sea” is an Israeli construct and one you’d like to see to fruition. Just admit it and stop pretending you’re for a two state solution. Honesty works both ways.

    Because it’s the truth. This is the one war where you get to use the g word. I keep suggesting ideas for peace, and your side continues lying endlessly with baseless attacks.

    Keep supporting Iran, see how that solves the mid east problem. 

    While I suggest a better deal for Palestine than what Japan and West Germany accepted, and get attacked. 

    Wonder why. 



    so, to understand, you are making no distinction between the average Palestinian citizen and Hamas.

    Hamas who gained power in the last election. held in 2007? was it?

    so all those too young to vote then and born since are painted with the terrorist label then?

    care to answer?  its been ignored before. so I'm not hopeful.

    My idea addressed this. Palestine should get a plan for autonomy, like Japan and Germany and many other countries that have successfully transitioned away from authoritarianism. They also need to negotiate, to give and take to achieve a treaty for peace , as does Israel.

    But there needs to be temporary oversight to ensure money and power does not end up in the hands of Iran and their proxies, as has occurred in the past. Those too young to have voted in 2007 are going to stand up against Iran? Without support and oversight from other nations in the region like Jordan, Egypt and the Saudis? 
    istael retreats to the 67 borders. to live within tbe borders as set by the un.
    Palestine is a wholey soveriegn nation.


    end of negotiations
    And gets the fuck out of Syria.
    😂
  • battle1
    battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    The guy is so concerned about every country in the world except America. He hates America but he lives here. So bizarre. Syria, please man. Fuck Syria and everyone in it. 
  • battle1
    battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    I have a suggestion, why don’t you all move to Syria or Palestine if you are so concerned about them? By all means, go enjoy your life there. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    battle1 said:
    I have a suggestion, why don’t you all move to Syria or Palestine if you are so concerned about them? By all means, go enjoy your life there. 
    I can't imagine that you have any family that likes to be around you.
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  • battle1
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    battle1 said:
    I have a suggestion, why don’t you all move to Syria or Palestine if you are so concerned about them? By all means, go enjoy your life there. 
    I can't imagine that you have any family that likes to be around you.
    Hahah