RFK Jr

tbergs

Go Beavers said:

tbergs said:

GlowGirl said:

Go Beavers said:

Tim Simmons said:

Vitalogensia said:

Did “the left” really have country and industry-wide vaccination mandates for everyone to keep their jobs, during the first Trump presidency?  Am I misremembering life?  

No you aren’t. They didn’t. 

There was a period that certain blue states (maybe some red states too) required proof of vax to attend things, but that was decided by the particular company/business, and not a legal mandate. 

I think it was even less than that as far as proof of vaccination went. A handful of cities were requiring proof of vax at restaurants, etc. i think NYC was one. Most if the proof of vax requirements were done at the corporate level. I remember having to show proof of vaccination going to Ohana in 2021, but that was the festival’s call and not Dana Point or Orange County.  

In NYC we did have to show proof of vaccine going to restaurants. That made me feel so much safer going out. It was no big deal showing the card. 

I'm going to devil's advocate this and apply it to voter ID. Shouldn't we also require voter ID to ensure the integrity of elections? Those who were OK with requiring vaccination confirmation should also be on-board with voter ID laws, right? I'm not opposed to either as long as we make the process as easy possible, which has never been the goal of the GOP. 

The problem is voter ID hasn’t been shown to ensure election integrity. 

Fair enough. Did vaccination status ensure the health and safety of others though? I'd argue it decreased overall risk, just like voter ID would, but neither eliminate all risks. 

Go Beavers

tbergs said:

Go Beavers said:

tbergs said:

GlowGirl said:

Go Beavers said:

Tim Simmons said:

Vitalogensia said:

Did “the left” really have country and industry-wide vaccination mandates for everyone to keep their jobs, during the first Trump presidency?  Am I misremembering life?  

No you aren’t. They didn’t. 

There was a period that certain blue states (maybe some red states too) required proof of vax to attend things, but that was decided by the particular company/business, and not a legal mandate. 

I think it was even less than that as far as proof of vaccination went. A handful of cities were requiring proof of vax at restaurants, etc. i think NYC was one. Most if the proof of vax requirements were done at the corporate level. I remember having to show proof of vaccination going to Ohana in 2021, but that was the festival’s call and not Dana Point or Orange County.  

In NYC we did have to show proof of vaccine going to restaurants. That made me feel so much safer going out. It was no big deal showing the card. 

I'm going to devil's advocate this and apply it to voter ID. Shouldn't we also require voter ID to ensure the integrity of elections? Those who were OK with requiring vaccination confirmation should also be on-board with voter ID laws, right? I'm not opposed to either as long as we make the process as easy possible, which has never been the goal of the GOP. 

The problem is voter ID hasn’t been shown to ensure election integrity. 

Fair enough. Did vaccination status ensure the health and safety of others though? I'd argue it decreased overall risk, just like voter ID would, but neither eliminate all risks. 

Problem is people having to pay money to exercise a constitutional right. 

Vitalogensia

I think it’s a fair use of the devil’s advocate (praise be). I’d like to add the questions of cost and transportation, as those are typically cited as barriers for voter IDs. COVID vaccines were free for a long time (as far as I know). I’m not sure if medical professionals were doing home visits or going out to more rural areas to help with vaccinations. 

PJ_Soul

mickeyrat said:

Yesterday, Texas filed a lawsuit against Tylenol’s parent company, alleging that it failed to alert consumers of the drug's connection to autism.

Today, Kennedy clarified that “the causative association between Tylenol given in pregnancy and perinatal periods is not sufficient to say it definitely causes autism." https://trib.al/60100lD

OnWis97

Texas will probably still win that lawsuit.

Gern Blansten

mickeyrat said:

Yesterday, Texas filed a lawsuit against Tylenol’s parent company, alleging that it failed to alert consumers of the drug's connection to autism.

Today, Kennedy clarified that “the causative association between Tylenol given in pregnancy and perinatal periods is not sufficient to say it definitely causes autism." https://trib.al/60100lD

So did the maker of Tylenol threaten a major lawsuit or something? Why would worm brain walk it back?

And I sure hope trump gets grilled about his dumbass comments from a few weeks ago.

Fucking clowns

gimmesometruth27

mickeyrat said:

Yesterday, Texas filed a lawsuit against Tylenol’s parent company, alleging that it failed to alert consumers of the drug's connection to autism.

Today, Kennedy clarified that “the causative association between Tylenol given in pregnancy and perinatal periods is not sufficient to say it definitely causes autism." https://trib.al/60100lD

my bet is the tylenol lawyers spoke up and told rfk to prepare to have his ass and balls sued off.