“Record breaking number of members at these shows” sounds like it’ll be a fun atmosphere. Also a nice reminder our seats are going to suck compared to other years! Thanks 10c for everything you’ve done to fix this mess. You could make it up to us by letting us preorder a poster!
People already don't realize "more members = seats not as good."
It'll be a mess. "10C doesn't care. My seats used to be so good!"
Well, part of that is what I outlined above. Another part is more fans willing to travel. In 1998 and 2000, when the band did 3-4 (or more) shows within a few hours driving distance of someone, it meant fewer people flying.
You could only get 10C tix for 1 show also, which made it less members per show, hence better seats.
I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side
06.27.98 Alpine Valley 10.08.00 Alpine Valley 09.23.02 Chicago 06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley 10.03.04 Grand Rapids 10.05.05 Chicago 05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee 08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago 08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago 05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland 09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley 07.19.13 Chicago 10.17.14 Moline 08.20.16 Chicago 08.18.18 Chicago 09.18.22 St. Louis 09.05.23 Chicago
“Record breaking number of members at these shows” sounds like it’ll be a fun atmosphere. Also a nice reminder our seats are going to suck compared to other years! Thanks 10c for everything you’ve done to fix this mess. You could make it up to us by letting us preorder a poster!
People already don't realize "more members = seats not as good."
It'll be a mess. "10C doesn't care. My seats used to be so good!"
Well, part of that is what I outlined above. Another part is more fans willing to travel. In 1998 and 2000, when the band did 3-4 (or more) shows within a few hours driving distance of someone, it meant fewer people flying.
You could only get 10C tix for 1 show also, which made it less members per show, hence better seats.
Yep, and also, 20 years ago....we were all 20 years younger, so probably a lot of people with less disposable income. Also, was ticketmaster online then? Feel like I still went into Carson Pirie Scott to get tickets then.
“Record breaking number of members at these shows” sounds like it’ll be a fun atmosphere. Also a nice reminder our seats are going to suck compared to other years! Thanks 10c for everything you’ve done to fix this mess. You could make it up to us by letting us preorder a poster!
People already don't realize "more members = seats not as good."
It'll be a mess. "10C doesn't care. My seats used to be so good!"
Well, part of that is what I outlined above. Another part is more fans willing to travel. In 1998 and 2000, when the band did 3-4 (or more) shows within a few hours driving distance of someone, it meant fewer people flying.
You could only get 10C tix for 1 show also, which made it less members per show, hence better seats.
Yep, and also, 20 years ago....we were all 20 years younger, so probably a lot of people with less disposable income. Also, was ticketmaster online then? Feel like I still went into Carson Pirie Scott to get tickets then.
Not sure about Carson Pirie Scott 20 years ago.......probably 25?
I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side
06.27.98 Alpine Valley 10.08.00 Alpine Valley 09.23.02 Chicago 06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley 10.03.04 Grand Rapids 10.05.05 Chicago 05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee 08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago 08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago 05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland 09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley 07.19.13 Chicago 10.17.14 Moline 08.20.16 Chicago 08.18.18 Chicago 09.18.22 St. Louis 09.05.23 Chicago
Not sure if it's been brought up but did any other Canadians notice they use a different exchange rate for purchases and refunds? Their mistake cost me $20 which is not financially crippling but just annoying...
Yes same happened to me $22 less St paul 1 & 2
Sunfest Gimli, Manitoba 1993. Winnipeg 2005,2011. St Paul 2014,St Paul 1&2 2023 N1&2. Chicago 1&2 Sept 5&7. Austin,Texas 1&2 Sept 18&19,2023
Not sure if it's been brought up but did any other Canadians notice they use a different exchange rate for purchases and refunds? Their mistake cost me $20 which is not financially crippling but just annoying...
the exchange rate is calculated by your credit card, not TM or 10C.
Most credit cards charge a 2.5% conversion fee in both directions. So even if the rate stayed the same you lose 5% on the extra transaction. There are a few cards on the market that don’t charge the 2.5%. They are worth their weight in gold for situations like these.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Not sure if it's been brought up but did any other Canadians notice they use a different exchange rate for purchases and refunds? Their mistake cost me $20 which is not financially crippling but just annoying...
the exchange rate is calculated by your credit card, not TM or 10C.
Most credit cards charge a 2.5% conversion fee in both directions. So even if the rate stayed the same you lose 5% on the extra transaction. There are a few cards on the market that don’t charge the 2.5%. They are worth their weight in gold for situations like these.
There's actually two rates that may come into play. One is a foreign transaction fee, which I think is what you're referring to as a conversion fee. Cards marketed as travel cards often don't charge this. Second is the currency exchange rate. Even if there's no explicit foreign transaction fee, the card may use a currency exchange rate that is unfavorable to the cardholder. This can result in the same effect as if the card had charged the 2.5% foreign transaction fee. That's what I encountered when I deposited my check from TM for the Canadian shows -- no explicit fee, but the exchange rate appeared to cost me about 3% compared to the market rates at the time. Figuring out which cards have the most favorable exchange rates is a little tougher. If you use a card with foreign transaction fees and a bad exchange rate it's a double whammy.
“Record breaking number of members at these shows” sounds like it’ll be a fun atmosphere. Also a nice reminder our seats are going to suck compared to other years! Thanks 10c for everything you’ve done to fix this mess. You could make it up to us by letting us preorder a poster!
People already don't realize "more members = seats not as good."
It'll be a mess. "10C doesn't care. My seats used to be so good!"
Well, part of that is what I outlined above. Another part is more fans willing to travel. In 1998 and 2000, when the band did 3-4 (or more) shows within a few hours driving distance of someone, it meant fewer people flying.
You could only get 10C tix for 1 show also, which made it less members per show, hence better seats.
Yep, and also, 20 years ago....we were all 20 years younger, so probably a lot of people with less disposable income. Also, was ticketmaster online then? Feel like I still went into Carson Pirie Scott to get tickets then.
Not sure about Carson Pirie Scott 20 years ago.......probably 25?
Youre probably right. Maybe 23, as I think Binaural tour we could only get 1 10C tickets per tour. My girlfriend had a 10C membership as well, so she used hers on INdy, I used mine on Chicago, and we both ended up at Carsons for East Troy and Nashville. 2003 was Riot Act, and I think that was when the rule was changed to allow for unlimited shows?
Too long ago to remember but how did Austin lose that show in 2000? They played Houston twice instead. I was a poor college student and only did Dallas.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
Wow! Look at all those shows those years. I was not a Ten Club member yet. And I definitely could not afford to travel to more than one show. But I went to Jones Beach in 2000 (funny they call that NYC), and DC in 2003.
Wow! Look at all those shows those years. I was not a Ten Club member yet. And I definitely could not afford to travel to more than one show. But I went to Jones Beach in 2000 (funny they call that NYC), and DC in 2003.
Wow, $85/pair. We probably pay that in fees now.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
“Record breaking number of members at these shows” sounds like it’ll be a fun atmosphere. Also a nice reminder our seats are going to suck compared to other years! Thanks 10c for everything you’ve done to fix this mess. You could make it up to us by letting us preorder a poster!
People already don't realize "more members = seats not as good."
It'll be a mess. "10C doesn't care. My seats used to be so good!"
Well, part of that is what I outlined above. Another part is more fans willing to travel. In 1998 and 2000, when the band did 3-4 (or more) shows within a few hours driving distance of someone, it meant fewer people flying.
Dallas 9/92, 11/93, 7/98, 10/00, 6/03, 11/13
Detroit 5/06
Austin 10/09
Kansas City 5/10
Alpine Valley I & II 9/11
Missoula 09/12
OK City 11/13
Tulsa 10/14
Lincoln 10/14
Not sure if it's been brought up but did any other Canadians notice they use a different exchange rate for purchases and refunds? Their mistake cost me $20 which is not financially crippling but just annoying...
the exchange rate is calculated by your credit card, not TM or 10C.
Most credit cards charge a 2.5% conversion fee in both directions. So even if the rate stayed the same you lose 5% on the extra transaction. There are a few cards on the market that don’t charge the 2.5%. They are worth their weight in gold for situations like these.
There's actually two rates that may come into play. One is a foreign transaction fee, which I think is what you're referring to as a conversion fee. Cards marketed as travel cards often don't charge this. Second is the currency exchange rate. Even if there's no explicit foreign transaction fee, the card may use a currency exchange rate that is unfavorable to the cardholder. This can result in the same effect as if the card had charged the 2.5% foreign transaction fee. That's what I encountered when I deposited my check from TM for the Canadian shows -- no explicit fee, but the exchange rate appeared to cost me about 3% compared to the market rates at the time. Figuring out which cards have the most favorable exchange rates is a little tougher. If you use a card with foreign transaction fees and a bad exchange rate it's a double whammy.
come for the tickets, stay for the financial advice!
Wow! Look at all those shows those years. I was not a Ten Club member yet. And I definitely could not afford to travel to more than one show. But I went to Jones Beach in 2000 (funny they call that NYC), and DC in 2003.
going from Chicago to Cincinnati to Alpine in 2003 is funny (Cincy canceled from flooding).
I did Chicago and Alpine…..wasn’t Alpine like 99 degrees, which was crazy since the last time they played there it was maybe 29 at best.
I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side
06.27.98 Alpine Valley 10.08.00 Alpine Valley 09.23.02 Chicago 06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley 10.03.04 Grand Rapids 10.05.05 Chicago 05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee 08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago 08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago 05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland 09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley 07.19.13 Chicago 10.17.14 Moline 08.20.16 Chicago 08.18.18 Chicago 09.18.22 St. Louis 09.05.23 Chicago
“Record breaking number of members at these shows” sounds like it’ll be a fun atmosphere. Also a nice reminder our seats are going to suck compared to other years! Thanks 10c for everything you’ve done to fix this mess. You could make it up to us by letting us preorder a poster!
3 year consistent member in the nosebleed club ya feel?
“Record breaking number of members at these shows” sounds like it’ll be a fun atmosphere. Also a nice reminder our seats are going to suck compared to other years! Thanks 10c for everything you’ve done to fix this mess. You could make it up to us by letting us preorder a poster!
3 year consistent member in the nosebleed club ya feel? Also I know there’s 30 year members here so 3 is really nothing comparatively🤷♂️
I just checked vividseat, stubhub and their are tickets posted on their for like 3Xs the face value. I thought these were non transferable tickets except for Chicago? Anyone have a clue...i don't.
I just checked vividseat, stubhub and their are tickets posted on their for like 3Xs the face value. I thought these were non transferable tickets except for Chicago? Anyone have a clue...i don't.
Just because they post tickets there doesn't mean they have them. Most of those are speculative
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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10.08.00 Alpine Valley
09.23.02 Chicago
06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley
10.03.04 Grand Rapids
10.05.05 Chicago
05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee
08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago
08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago
05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland
09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley
07.19.13 Chicago
10.17.14 Moline
08.20.16 Chicago
08.18.18 Chicago
09.18.22 St. Louis
09.05.23 Chicago
Nuclear fission
10.08.00 Alpine Valley
09.23.02 Chicago
06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley
10.03.04 Grand Rapids
10.05.05 Chicago
05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee
08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago
08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago
05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland
09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley
07.19.13 Chicago
10.17.14 Moline
08.20.16 Chicago
08.18.18 Chicago
09.18.22 St. Louis
09.05.23 Chicago
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Can anyone confirm this?
Nuclear fission
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Detroit 5/06
Austin 10/09
Kansas City 5/10
Alpine Valley I & II 9/11
Missoula 09/12
OK City 11/13
Tulsa 10/14
Lincoln 10/14
10.08.00 Alpine Valley
09.23.02 Chicago
06.18.03 Chicago | 06.21.03 Alpine Valley
10.03.04 Grand Rapids
10.05.05 Chicago
05.16.06 Chicago | 05.17.06 Chicago | 06.29.06 Milwaukee
08.02.07 Chicago | 08.05.07 Chicago
08.23.09 Chicago | 08.24.09 Chicago
05.07.10 Noblesville | 05.09.10 Cleveland
09.03.11 Alpine Valley | 09.04.11 Alpine Valley
07.19.13 Chicago
10.17.14 Moline
08.20.16 Chicago
08.18.18 Chicago
09.18.22 St. Louis
09.05.23 Chicago
Nuclear fission
Nuclear fission
guessing not.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
watching the clock it’s 8 o clock
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023