Eddie is a better song writer without the rest of PJ
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There, I said it. Blast me all you like. But the ITW soundtrack and some of his other solo stuff (You're True, Satellite, and Longing to Belong in particular) has convinced me that Eddie's best work is that which is done on his own.
That doesn't mean I would want Eddie to go off solo from now on, only that in terms of pure SONGWRITING (not energy, not performance, not even overall greatness), Eddie solo is simply superior to Eddie + PJ.
That doesn't mean I would want Eddie to go off solo from now on, only that in terms of pure SONGWRITING (not energy, not performance, not even overall greatness), Eddie solo is simply superior to Eddie + PJ.
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Agreed. Unquantifiable babble. Both are great. It's that age old problem about judging and awarding art.
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See, the thing is, I agree with you. Pearl Jam > Eddie.
But that's not my point in this thread.
My point is that SOLELY looking at Eddie's songwriting -- not the work of the other band members, not live performances, not guitar work, SOLELY songwriting -- Eddie's best work is his solo stuff.
I don't know how to better communicate my point; it seems like a lot of you are looking at this as an Eddie vs. PJ argument, which it certainly is not.
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of course there are great pj songs that eddie wrote, music and words, but i think the aforementioned songs (itw, goodbye, longing to belong ect.) trump them. A lot of ed's best work lyrically in pj, are for songs that he didn't write the music for. Looking at strictly the songs that eddie writes completely, I'd have to say his solo work is better. No Ceiling, to me, is Eddie's best work ever.
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Interesting. Maybe you're onto something, because I tend to be lukewarm to a lot of Ed's Pearl Jam songs and wish Stone and Jeff and Mike did the brunt of the music writing. Ed's songs on ITW are way better than stuff like Gone or Love Boat Captain.
I also agree with whoever said above that their harder songs are pretty lackluster lately. The epics like Inside Job are still great, and the quirky or mellow songs are still great. But I couldn't care less if they release another generic rocker like Comatose.
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if matt would just encourage the band to try some different time signatures and everyone worked more collaboratively then i think this next album can be no code / yield caliber
theyve got A LOT of good energy going right now with all their solo stuff... hope they can bring it all together... i think brendan will make it happen
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Thats why PJ is so great, each member brings something different to the table. Mix it all together and you have something special.
a simple no would have been ok
When you have a limited amount of solo material stacked against a large catalog of collaborations, your point falls flat.
Is he a great songwriter? Without question. However, in my opinion, the parts make up the sum.
I prefer the collaborations over his solo work.
Interesting topic, but there is no definite answer...
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I actually think I do get your point. Even with Pearl Jam, my favorite songs are almost always the undeniably "Ed" songs ... the ones where you just know he locked himself in a room for a week to pound it out.
Off He Goes, Wishlist, Thumbing My Way ... stuff like that. It's not that I don't like the whole band, and in many cases, the whole band is able to take those "ed" songs to a higher place ... but still.
From the get-go, I just tend to like the Ed songs better than the Ed collaborative songs, or the songs written by other band members.
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I couldn't agree more. I've always found myself leaning more towards the mellow side of Pearl Jam. On the last album, I thought only Life Wasted and Marker in the Sand were the rockers that REALLY worked. However, the slow burns that the band have been putting out are some of the most beautiful pieces of music the band has ever done, and I think Eddie raises the bar lyrically when it comes to these songs. "Thumbing My Way", "Man of the Hour", "Come Back", and the solo uke songs are Ed at his best lyrically.
When I look at the "rockers" from the past several albums, the lyrics just aren't there.
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..... okay a simple "wrong" would have done just fine.