Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

3days

I think that by suggesting that Indy is a good way to look at how platinum seats affect seniority, I have done a misdeed. 

Obviously, it has no bearing on selecting who won and who did not. It only applies to (roughly) how far back your seats should be without platinum seating versus how far back your seats actually are.

That being said, I still don't think it's too small of a sample.

pjl44

SHZA said:

pjl44 said:

SHZA said:

pjalli said:

SHZA said:

pjalli said:

marcPJfan said:

I’d email the 10c.  No way they don’t make this right.

I did, look at this response. I replied to ask them to look into my member number, no further response...

Who defines which seats are the "best"? It's all subjective. Think of the VIP section at some festivals. VIP bleachers are about a mile from the stage and supposedly have "premium sightlines", whereas standard tickets have free access to the areas closer to the stage. If 10C decided that the best seats are farther away because it's a nice view of the whole stage and the sound is better than being up close, then a 200-section seat in Austin for a senior member is indeed an "accurate seniority-based seating assignment." 

You are seriously telling me that the back of the section the absolute farthest from the stage would be where the seniority should start? Come on. This has to be sarcasm right?

I'm not saying should. I'm saying it's possible because there's a lack of transparency and clear guidelines. All we know is that seniority gets priority. How they decide to rank each seat in the arena from best to worst is a complete mystery and could be very subjective. Meaning your assignment could be accurate based on the "best-seat" rankings of whoever came up with them, even if most people would disagree with that person's subjective ranking system. 

You're too sharp for this not to just be piling on someone who is already severely bummed out. In 25-30 years of seniority seating this is not how it's worked. If they were testing this delightful new theory there would be waves of people reporting this. But you know all that.

If it's legitimately a mistake, it should be rectified and there's still four months to find the right person who can fix it. So "piling on" is a little dramatic. I'm just pointing out that we're relying on assumptions about what are the best seats, but there's a lack of transparency about how that is determined. You're assuming it's still being done the way it's been done for 25-30 years, but given TM's growing influence on the entire process, it's plausible that the folks who were in charge of seniority seating for the past 25-30 years aren't handling it this time. And given the constant stream of complaints I've seen here and on Facebook about how dissatisfied people are with their seats compared to past tours, I'm not sure that waves of people aren't having these issues. Admittedly I haven't done a survey, but I know of a 20-year member who got tickets in a higher level than his wife who joined last year. Many others have similar anecdotes. 

There's too much disingenuous flapping of gums here to address it point by point

pjalli

pjl44 said:

SHZA said:

pjl44 said:

SHZA said:

pjalli said:

SHZA said:

pjalli said:

marcPJfan said:

I’d email the 10c.  No way they don’t make this right.

I did, look at this response. I replied to ask them to look into my member number, no further response...

Who defines which seats are the "best"? It's all subjective. Think of the VIP section at some festivals. VIP bleachers are about a mile from the stage and supposedly have "premium sightlines", whereas standard tickets have free access to the areas closer to the stage. If 10C decided that the best seats are farther away because it's a nice view of the whole stage and the sound is better than being up close, then a 200-section seat in Austin for a senior member is indeed an "accurate seniority-based seating assignment." 

You are seriously telling me that the back of the section the absolute farthest from the stage would be where the seniority should start? Come on. This has to be sarcasm right?

I'm not saying should. I'm saying it's possible because there's a lack of transparency and clear guidelines. All we know is that seniority gets priority. How they decide to rank each seat in the arena from best to worst is a complete mystery and could be very subjective. Meaning your assignment could be accurate based on the "best-seat" rankings of whoever came up with them, even if most people would disagree with that person's subjective ranking system. 

You're too sharp for this not to just be piling on someone who is already severely bummed out. In 25-30 years of seniority seating this is not how it's worked. If they were testing this delightful new theory there would be waves of people reporting this. But you know all that.

If it's legitimately a mistake, it should be rectified and there's still four months to find the right person who can fix it. So "piling on" is a little dramatic. I'm just pointing out that we're relying on assumptions about what are the best seats, but there's a lack of transparency about how that is determined. You're assuming it's still being done the way it's been done for 25-30 years, but given TM's growing influence on the entire process, it's plausible that the folks who were in charge of seniority seating for the past 25-30 years aren't handling it this time. And given the constant stream of complaints I've seen here and on Facebook about how dissatisfied people are with their seats compared to past tours, I'm not sure that waves of people aren't having these issues. Admittedly I haven't done a survey, but I know of a 20-year member who got tickets in a higher level than his wife who joined last year. Many others have similar anecdotes. 

There's too much disingenuous flapping of gums here to address it point by point

Way too much. I don't get it, what am I missing here? In what reality are 200 level seats better than 100 level? Why post like this?

Mistakes were clearly made and I for one have gotten zero communication back from ticketmastertenclub that would indicate anything will be done. I guess we'll see, but it's pretty annoying for other fans to be so unsupportive.

Cathy14

My sister in law lives at our house and we both got tickets to the same show, with the pairs right next to each other. Yet the ten club #'s are 215,000 numbers apart. Weird.

Bentleyspop

pjalli said:

pjl44 said:

SHZA said:

pjl44 said:

SHZA said:

pjalli said:

SHZA said:

pjalli said:

marcPJfan said:

I’d email the 10c.  No way they don’t make this right.

I did, look at this response. I replied to ask them to look into my member number, no further response...

Who defines which seats are the "best"? It's all subjective. Think of the VIP section at some festivals. VIP bleachers are about a mile from the stage and supposedly have "premium sightlines", whereas standard tickets have free access to the areas closer to the stage. If 10C decided that the best seats are farther away because it's a nice view of the whole stage and the sound is better than being up close, then a 200-section seat in Austin for a senior member is indeed an "accurate seniority-based seating assignment." 

You are seriously telling me that the back of the section the absolute farthest from the stage would be where the seniority should start? Come on. This has to be sarcasm right?

I'm not saying should. I'm saying it's possible because there's a lack of transparency and clear guidelines. All we know is that seniority gets priority. How they decide to rank each seat in the arena from best to worst is a complete mystery and could be very subjective. Meaning your assignment could be accurate based on the "best-seat" rankings of whoever came up with them, even if most people would disagree with that person's subjective ranking system. 

You're too sharp for this not to just be piling on someone who is already severely bummed out. In 25-30 years of seniority seating this is not how it's worked. If they were testing this delightful new theory there would be waves of people reporting this. But you know all that.

If it's legitimately a mistake, it should be rectified and there's still four months to find the right person who can fix it. So "piling on" is a little dramatic. I'm just pointing out that we're relying on assumptions about what are the best seats, but there's a lack of transparency about how that is determined. You're assuming it's still being done the way it's been done for 25-30 years, but given TM's growing influence on the entire process, it's plausible that the folks who were in charge of seniority seating for the past 25-30 years aren't handling it this time. And given the constant stream of complaints I've seen here and on Facebook about how dissatisfied people are with their seats compared to past tours, I'm not sure that waves of people aren't having these issues. Admittedly I haven't done a survey, but I know of a 20-year member who got tickets in a higher level than his wife who joined last year. Many others have similar anecdotes. 

There's too much disingenuous flapping of gums here to address it point by point

Way too much. I don't get it, what am I missing here? In what reality are 200 level seats better than 100 level? Why post like this?

Mistakes were clearly made and I for one have gotten zero communication back from ticketmastertenclub that would indicate anything will be done. I guess we'll see, but it's pretty annoying for other fans to be so unsupportive.

There are way too many weird anomalies to easily explain away what happened with your seat location. It is clearly a mistake that needs to be rectified. Odds are good that it won't be. But since reassignments were only disbursed less than 72 hours ago there is plenty of time for 10Club /PJ/TM to do the right thing.

3days

pjalli said:

pjl44 said:

SHZA said:

pjl44 said:

SHZA said:

pjalli said:

SHZA said:

pjalli said:

marcPJfan said:

I’d email the 10c.  No way they don’t make this right.

I did, look at this response. I replied to ask them to look into my member number, no further response...

Who defines which seats are the "best"? It's all subjective. Think of the VIP section at some festivals. VIP bleachers are about a mile from the stage and supposedly have "premium sightlines", whereas standard tickets have free access to the areas closer to the stage. If 10C decided that the best seats are farther away because it's a nice view of the whole stage and the sound is better than being up close, then a 200-section seat in Austin for a senior member is indeed an "accurate seniority-based seating assignment." 

You are seriously telling me that the back of the section the absolute farthest from the stage would be where the seniority should start? Come on. This has to be sarcasm right?

I'm not saying should. I'm saying it's possible because there's a lack of transparency and clear guidelines. All we know is that seniority gets priority. How they decide to rank each seat in the arena from best to worst is a complete mystery and could be very subjective. Meaning your assignment could be accurate based on the "best-seat" rankings of whoever came up with them, even if most people would disagree with that person's subjective ranking system. 

You're too sharp for this not to just be piling on someone who is already severely bummed out. In 25-30 years of seniority seating this is not how it's worked. If they were testing this delightful new theory there would be waves of people reporting this. But you know all that.

If it's legitimately a mistake, it should be rectified and there's still four months to find the right person who can fix it. So "piling on" is a little dramatic. I'm just pointing out that we're relying on assumptions about what are the best seats, but there's a lack of transparency about how that is determined. You're assuming it's still being done the way it's been done for 25-30 years, but given TM's growing influence on the entire process, it's plausible that the folks who were in charge of seniority seating for the past 25-30 years aren't handling it this time. And given the constant stream of complaints I've seen here and on Facebook about how dissatisfied people are with their seats compared to past tours, I'm not sure that waves of people aren't having these issues. Admittedly I haven't done a survey, but I know of a 20-year member who got tickets in a higher level than his wife who joined last year. Many others have similar anecdotes. 

There's too much disingenuous flapping of gums here to address it point by point

Way too much. I don't get it, what am I missing here? In what reality are 200 level seats better than 100 level? Why post like this?

Mistakes were clearly made and I for one have gotten zero communication back from ticketmastertenclub that would indicate anything will be done. I guess we'll see, but it's pretty annoying for other fans to be so unsupportive.

I've been following your ticket mix-up. I think you have every right to be disappointed. I hope they correct the mistake, or make it up to you somehow. I'm sure it was an honest mistake, but you deserve better than the answer they gave you. I hope you keep trying.

aisleseats

flanosmasseur said:

100 Pacer said:

3days said:

There's an easy way to see how platinum seats have impacted our seat locations: Indiana.

As opposed to all other shows on this tour, the seats project from the stage in a more straight forward manner. There's much less room for argument about which seats are actually best. Start closest to the stage, and move backward. Whereas, in an arena you could argue that floor seats are best, or that seats on the sides are best. You could argue that balcony seats are better than lower level seats if the balcony section is closer to the stage. Noblesville simplifies the matter. Start front and work back. 

Take membership numbers into consideration, and divide the seats into quarters or thirds. There will always be variables and unknowns, but I think it paints a picture.

Not an accurate representation due to smaller sample size: only 7,000 reserved seats with up to 10% allocated for Premium leaves 6,300 reserved seats up for grabs in a lottery where you have how many tens of thousands entering?

Thank you for the comment @100 Pacer I've been sitting here fuming since Friday:

(Indy Priority 1, only show requested)

First draw - Sec H, Row S, Seats 15&16

Second draw - Sec H, Row W, Seats 46&47...about as far right as you can get

532XXX

I knew with my high number I wasn't going to get A/B/C or even F for that matter...so I felt good about the first draw. But now, more than likely, I won't be able to see Stone or Boom. I've seen DMB there several times in A/B/C but have been in their FC for 20+ years. Your comment just reiterated the fact that I should be happy I got anything at all.

I've also been a WH member for 20+ years, and the seats you got for PJ are exactly where DMB has been sticking me for Deer Creek the last 8 years or so. Whereas before, I used to always get lowers. So, if you're still getting A, B, C thru the WH, without paying for premium, consider yourself lucky.

But I totally understand where you're coming from with that seat assignment. That's exactly why I stopped ordering thru the WH. These days, I always get better seats thru TM presales.

ceska

BW285110 said:

OfThePearl said:

mschostok said:

Is anybody else’s Ticketmaster email with their tickets having an error message when trying to open them up? 

Is anyone still having this problem with the error "400 - Bad Request"? The only device I have available is my phone. I have restarted my phone, and a few things like that, to make it more efficient. So far nothing has worked.
I sent a message to TM, but you know how that goes. I did get an email response saying they received it, and someone will get back to me within 24-48 hours. I figured I would likely get an answer here more quickly!

Does not work for me either.  Mac or phone.  I have no idea if my terrible seats were upgraded.  Cannot get my seats.

I got the email to claim my ticket. I followed the instructions and got a screen with the ticketmaster logo at top left and otherwise it is a blank screen. I tried to claim again and get the same screen plus this message:
" 

TapException with errorCode '20000' with backend error code 0x0b010000"

The show is not appearing in my "upcoming events" in my ticketmaster account.

RatherStarved

I can’t recall if it was on this thread or another but the best theory I saw on why very low 10c numbers got bad seats is the theory that the TM
system needed a 6 digit number and if people had a 5 digit number TM added a zero to the end instead of the beginning.  So member 55250 was considered 552500 instead of 055250.  This was total speculation by the person who posted it and I am also just speculating.  Are there any 5 digit members who got good seats? And if so what is the first number of their 5 digits? 

Bentleyspop

RatherStarved said:

I can’t recall if it was on this thread or another but the best theory I saw on why very low 10c numbers got bad seats is the theory that the TM
system needed a 6 digit number and if people had a 5 digit number TM added a zero to the end instead of the beginning.  So member 55250 was considered 552500 instead of 055250.  This was total speculation by the person who posted it and I am also just speculating.  Are there any 5 digit members who got good seats? And if so what is the first number of their 5 digits? 

Yes
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amethgr8

Sarava said:

given2fly23 said:

mookieb14 said:

flanosmasseur said:

100 Pacer said:

3days said:

There's an easy way to see how platinum seats have impacted our seat locations: Indiana.

As opposed to all other shows on this tour, the seats project from the stage in a more straight forward manner. There's much less room for argument about which seats are actually best. Start closest to the stage, and move backward. Whereas, in an arena you could argue that floor seats are best, or that seats on the sides are best. You could argue that balcony seats are better than lower level seats if the balcony section is closer to the stage. Noblesville simplifies the matter. Start front and work back. 

Take membership numbers into consideration, and divide the seats into quarters or thirds. There will always be variables and unknowns, but I think it paints a picture.

Not an accurate representation due to smaller sample size: only 7,000 reserved seats with up to 10% allocated for Premium leaves 6,300 reserved seats up for grabs in a lottery where you have how many tens of thousands entering?

Thank you for the comment @100 Pacer I've been sitting here fuming since Friday:

(Indy Priority 1, only show requested)

First draw - Sec H, Row S, Seats 15&16

Second draw - Sec H, Row W, Seats 46&47...about as far right as you can get

532XXX

I knew with my high number I wasn't going to get A/B/C or even F for that matter...so I felt good about the first draw. But now, more than likely, I won't be able to see Stone or Boom. I've seen DMB there several times in A/B/C but have been in their FC for 20+ years. Your comment just reiterated the fact that I should be happy I got anything at all.

Out of curiosity, buddy requested noblesville priority one ga/res.  Does anyone know of another member with that ranking getting nothing?  More than 3000ish people got selected over him? Did the 20 something all have priority one?

Yes, my friend had IND GA/Reserved and Reserved as her #1 priority and got nothing. It wasn’t an entry or credit card issue because she did get her 2nd and 3rd shows. TM fucked this up royally. 

That sucks. I got Indy with my 2nd priority, picking the same way. That shouldn't have happened if some with 1st priorities didnt get tickets.

it's the name (your name) they pick or is not picked.  I got my 1st and 3rd choice, both CHI.  Indy was my 2nd priority.  I think there was higher/same demand for Indy but less seats available.

flanosmasseur

aisleseats said:

flanosmasseur said:

100 Pacer said:

3days said:

There's an easy way to see how platinum seats have impacted our seat locations: Indiana.

As opposed to all other shows on this tour, the seats project from the stage in a more straight forward manner. There's much less room for argument about which seats are actually best. Start closest to the stage, and move backward. Whereas, in an arena you could argue that floor seats are best, or that seats on the sides are best. You could argue that balcony seats are better than lower level seats if the balcony section is closer to the stage. Noblesville simplifies the matter. Start front and work back. 

Take membership numbers into consideration, and divide the seats into quarters or thirds. There will always be variables and unknowns, but I think it paints a picture.

Not an accurate representation due to smaller sample size: only 7,000 reserved seats with up to 10% allocated for Premium leaves 6,300 reserved seats up for grabs in a lottery where you have how many tens of thousands entering?

Thank you for the comment @100 Pacer I've been sitting here fuming since Friday:

(Indy Priority 1, only show requested)

First draw - Sec H, Row S, Seats 15&16

Second draw - Sec H, Row W, Seats 46&47...about as far right as you can get

532XXX

I knew with my high number I wasn't going to get A/B/C or even F for that matter...so I felt good about the first draw. But now, more than likely, I won't be able to see Stone or Boom. I've seen DMB there several times in A/B/C but have been in their FC for 20+ years. Your comment just reiterated the fact that I should be happy I got anything at all.

I've also been a WH member for 20+ years, and the seats you got for PJ are exactly where DMB has been sticking me for Deer Creek the last 8 years or so. Whereas before, I used to always get lowers. So, if you're still getting A, B, C thru the WH, without paying for premium, consider yourself lucky.

But I totally understand where you're coming from with that seat assignment. That's exactly why I stopped ordering thru the WH. These days, I always get better seats thru TM presales.

@aisleseats I guess I should've mentioned I only request tickets for Saturday (seniority night), and it's been a while since I've "won" the Tier 1 reserved lottery. I've either won the PIT lottery or got Tier 2/3 assigned (mostly Sections E/G) and went after better seats.

Do you think I'll be able to see the entire stage? Never been that far over...

ceska

ceska said:

BW285110 said:

OfThePearl said:

mschostok said:

Is anybody else’s Ticketmaster email with their tickets having an error message when trying to open them up? 

Is anyone still having this problem with the error "400 - Bad Request"? The only device I have available is my phone. I have restarted my phone, and a few things like that, to make it more efficient. So far nothing has worked.
I sent a message to TM, but you know how that goes. I did get an email response saying they received it, and someone will get back to me within 24-48 hours. I figured I would likely get an answer here more quickly!

Does not work for me either.  Mac or phone.  I have no idea if my terrible seats were upgraded.  Cannot get my seats.

I got the email to claim my ticket. I followed the instructions and got a screen with the ticketmaster logo at top left and otherwise it is a blank screen. I tried to claim again and get the same screen plus this message:
" 

TapException with errorCode '20000' with backend error code 0x0b010000"

The show is not appearing in my "upcoming events" in my ticketmaster account.

I saw another post about clearing one's browser cache. That was it, it worked and I now have claimed my tickets.

for the record and topic of the thread, my one and only show choice was Chicago Night 2 with GA/Reserved as #1 Priority, and I won GA.

aisleseats

flanosmasseur said:

aisleseats said:

flanosmasseur said:

100 Pacer said:

3days said:

There's an easy way to see how platinum seats have impacted our seat locations: Indiana.

As opposed to all other shows on this tour, the seats project from the stage in a more straight forward manner. There's much less room for argument about which seats are actually best. Start closest to the stage, and move backward. Whereas, in an arena you could argue that floor seats are best, or that seats on the sides are best. You could argue that balcony seats are better than lower level seats if the balcony section is closer to the stage. Noblesville simplifies the matter. Start front and work back. 

Take membership numbers into consideration, and divide the seats into quarters or thirds. There will always be variables and unknowns, but I think it paints a picture.

Not an accurate representation due to smaller sample size: only 7,000 reserved seats with up to 10% allocated for Premium leaves 6,300 reserved seats up for grabs in a lottery where you have how many tens of thousands entering?

Thank you for the comment @100 Pacer I've been sitting here fuming since Friday:

(Indy Priority 1, only show requested)

First draw - Sec H, Row S, Seats 15&16

Second draw - Sec H, Row W, Seats 46&47...about as far right as you can get

532XXX

I knew with my high number I wasn't going to get A/B/C or even F for that matter...so I felt good about the first draw. But now, more than likely, I won't be able to see Stone or Boom. I've seen DMB there several times in A/B/C but have been in their FC for 20+ years. Your comment just reiterated the fact that I should be happy I got anything at all.

I've also been a WH member for 20+ years, and the seats you got for PJ are exactly where DMB has been sticking me for Deer Creek the last 8 years or so. Whereas before, I used to always get lowers. So, if you're still getting A, B, C thru the WH, without paying for premium, consider yourself lucky.

But I totally understand where you're coming from with that seat assignment. That's exactly why I stopped ordering thru the WH. These days, I always get better seats thru TM presales.

@aisleseats I guess I should've mentioned I only request tickets for Saturday (seniority night), and it's been a while since I've "won" the Tier 1 reserved lottery. I've either won the PIT lottery or got Tier 2/3 assigned (mostly Sections E/G) and went after better seats.

Do you think I'll be able to see the entire stage? Never been that far over...

I've honestly never kept the seats they gave me over there. But I have used those same seats (3-4 in from the outer aisle) toward the back of Sec C before, and they were partially obstructed (couldn't see Roi). But hopefully you're far enough back that that won't be the case for you.

Cubu

I know a lot of people are upset with their seating re-assignment for Chicago 1, however, I'm not one of those. I'm now in Section 219, which is a vast improvement from  Section109, (1st assignment) and Section 216 2nd assignment. I love the 200 level in the UC and this will be my 1st time seeing them from up there! Especially, right over the stage. It's going to be an epic show and I can't wait to see everyone again!!

craigraether

F2F is open ! 

lolobugg

Release2222 said:

I have to add my ticket issue here too. My member number is in the 72,000s so I normally receive the first section next to the stage row a or B because of that low number. So when I got that normal section, but one night was Row G and another was Row J. I was a bit upset (cause I’m spoiled) but I was happy I did receive tickets for two shows. When we got the email saying that the seat assignments were incorrect and not done by seniority I was thrilled. However, when I received my updated ticket assignments yesterday - for one show the seat assignments did not change at ALL and for the second show, the row did not change only the seat numbers did.  Just wanted to let others know that they’re not alone with this. I did email 10 club but I’m sure they’ve been inundated with these problems. I will keep you guys posted on what I hear back from them


@Release2222  are you going to the Austin shows? My row is SEC 120 Row g for both nights. just wondering

lumpyroost

Just saw GA in FW N1 on Seat Geek for $2500/per 1-3 tickets?????

josevolution

lolobugg said:

Release2222 said:

I have to add my ticket issue here too. My member number is in the 72,000s so I normally receive the first section next to the stage row a or B because of that low number. So when I got that normal section, but one night was Row G and another was Row J. I was a bit upset (cause I’m spoiled) but I was happy I did receive tickets for two shows. When we got the email saying that the seat assignments were incorrect and not done by seniority I was thrilled. However, when I received my updated ticket assignments yesterday - for one show the seat assignments did not change at ALL and for the second show, the row did not change only the seat numbers did.  Just wanted to let others know that they’re not alone with this. I did email 10 club but I’m sure they’ve been inundated with these problems. I will keep you guys posted on what I hear back from them


@Release2222  are you going to the Austin shows? My row is SEC 120 Row g for both nights. just 

EEEDEC04

So my Indy reserved seats switched from Sec D row W to Sec G row V. Happy to have moved closer to the middle and one row up