Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

jdopj

mattcoz said:

mace1229 said:

Some of those day of tickets shows had a combination of seniority + getting there early.
I know at least a couple tours they issued you in blocks based on seniority, and then gave out seat assignments within that block based on when you arrived.
I didn't care for that. I don't like to feel like I need to get there early. Its why I love the assigned seats at movies now. You can show up halfway through the previews and still have good seats!.

Hmm, I don't remember that. What years would that have been?

2000, 2003

josevolution

Loujoe said:

10c is currently reviewing these threads to assign seats based on complainiority

😂😂😂 I guess I’ll be in the 300’s 

mace1229

I hate when I don't check a thread for 24 hours and there's 70 posts. So then I assume something important happened. 

GlorifiedGEE

SomethingCreative said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Avocado78 said:

At this point, there's only 1 way to do this fairly: Let all the reserved seating folks in at once, and let everyone just fight for your seats. It would be tremendous theater because merch stands would also be open at same time, meaning folks would need to choose what to do first. 

I’d find the smallest chode and clean his clock right off the bat.  Drop him so he slides down the stairs I’m front of everyone.   Like prison.  Set the tone so people know what’s coming if they F with me

Good luck, I’ll be naked and greased up and my finger nails all grown out

I love how weird and creative this is getting. 

Loujoe

josevolution said:

Loujoe said:

10c is currently reviewing these threads to assign seats based on complainiority

😂😂😂 I guess I’ll be in the 300’s 

Heck if I was in on this I'd be mad too. Hope all get close to what they expected. 

BK221359

RatherStarved said:

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

You are probably posting this to make the case that PJ represents excellent value.  Which they do.  However, the Aerosmith pricing is actually more fair.  If you’re in the nosebleeds or behind the stage you don’t pay as much as someone in the best seats in the house.  At the very least I would like to see PJ introduce two price points.  Something simple like add $20 to the price of lowers and subtract $20 from uppers, or some similar numbers that would leave total revenue the same.  That way if someone gets dumped into an upper in the draw at least it buys a couple of beers for their misfortune.  

Aerosmith isn’t a valid comp…period.

mace1229

BK221359 said:

RatherStarved said:

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

You are probably posting this to make the case that PJ represents excellent value.  Which they do.  However, the Aerosmith pricing is actually more fair.  If you’re in the nosebleeds or behind the stage you don’t pay as much as someone in the best seats in the house.  At the very least I would like to see PJ introduce two price points.  Something simple like add $20 to the price of lowers and subtract $20 from uppers, or some similar numbers that would leave total revenue the same.  That way if someone gets dumped into an upper in the draw at least it buys a couple of beers for their misfortune.  

Aerosmith isn’t a valid comp…period.

The problem with that tiered pricing is I would imagine the bad seats would stay the same price, and the good seats would go up.
So with that in mind, I'm happy with the single price.

It almost seems like its not about the actual cost, just some people are upset they paid the same price for nosebleeds as someone in row 1 based on principle. 

Kevinman

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

SomethingCreative said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Avocado78 said:

At this point, there's only 1 way to do this fairly: Let all the reserved seating folks in at once, and let everyone just fight for your seats. It would be tremendous theater because merch stands would also be open at same time, meaning folks would need to choose what to do first. 

I’d find the smallest chode and clean his clock right off the bat.  Drop him so he slides down the stairs I’m front of everyone.   Like prison.  Set the tone so people know what’s coming if they F with me

Good luck, I’ll be naked and greased up and my finger nails all grown out

Weird.  But impressive.  Let’s team up.

I’ll stay in back…..I’m frightened now.

lolobugg

mace1229 said:

BK221359 said:

RatherStarved said:

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

You are probably posting this to make the case that PJ represents excellent value.  Which they do.  However, the Aerosmith pricing is actually more fair.  If you’re in the nosebleeds or behind the stage you don’t pay as much as someone in the best seats in the house.  At the very least I would like to see PJ introduce two price points.  Something simple like add $20 to the price of lowers and subtract $20 from uppers, or some similar numbers that would leave total revenue the same.  That way if someone gets dumped into an upper in the draw at least it buys a couple of beers for their misfortune.  

Aerosmith isn’t a valid comp…period.

The problem with that tiered pricing is I would imagine the bad seats would stay the same price, and the good seats would go up.
So with that in mind, I'm happy with the single price.

It almost seems like its not about the actual cost, just some people are upset they paid the same price for nosebleeds as someone in row 1 based on principle. 

I don't have a problem with the way PJ sets the pricing. however i feel bad for the poor fuckers that end up in the 300 section at the United Center. 

aisleseats

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

Why am I always discriminated against?

That's what the asking prices will be at first, and some poor saps will actually pay that. But once they realize they aren't going to sell out at those prices, they'll drop the prices. Look at the Billy Joel/Stevie Nicks stadium tour. For some of those dates, they're completely sold out of 200 and 300 level upper deck seats, because those were cheaper. Meanwhile, they've sold almost none of the lower level and field seats because they're way overpriced...even after 3 price drops already.

That's the beauty of "dynamic pricing." They can charge whatever the hell they want at any time. There's been times when I've bought tickets at $139 the day they went on sale, only to have seats in the same section and row drop down to as low as $29 the week of the show.

JojoRice

aisleseats said:

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

Why am I always discriminated against?

That's what the asking prices will be at first, and some poor saps will actually pay that. But once they realize they aren't going to sell out at those prices, they'll drop the prices. Look at the Billy Joel/Stevie Knicks stadium tour. For some of those dates, they're completely sold out of 200 and 300 level upper deck seats, because those were cheaper. Meanwhile, they've sold almost none of the lower level and field seats because they're way overpriced...even after 3 price drops already.

That's the beauty of "dynamic pricing." They can charge whatever the hell they want at any time. There's been times when I've bought tickets at $139 the day they went on sale, only to have seats in the same section and row drop down to as low as $29 the week of the show.

I had that happen to me with Eric Clapton tickets last year. Spent roughly $150 on a ticket the day they went on sale.  By the week of the show, tickets in my same section were down to $75. 

mace1229

lolobugg said:

mace1229 said:

BK221359 said:

RatherStarved said:

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

You are probably posting this to make the case that PJ represents excellent value.  Which they do.  However, the Aerosmith pricing is actually more fair.  If you’re in the nosebleeds or behind the stage you don’t pay as much as someone in the best seats in the house.  At the very least I would like to see PJ introduce two price points.  Something simple like add $20 to the price of lowers and subtract $20 from uppers, or some similar numbers that would leave total revenue the same.  That way if someone gets dumped into an upper in the draw at least it buys a couple of beers for their misfortune.  

Aerosmith isn’t a valid comp…period.

The problem with that tiered pricing is I would imagine the bad seats would stay the same price, and the good seats would go up.
So with that in mind, I'm happy with the single price.

It almost seems like its not about the actual cost, just some people are upset they paid the same price for nosebleeds as someone in row 1 based on principle. 

I don't have a problem with the way PJ sets the pricing. however i feel bad for the poor fuckers that end up in the 300 section at the United Center. 

I don't. The place will sell out. I see it as they paid $162 for a $162 seat. Those lucky ones up from paid $162 for a $400 seat. Don't feel bad because someone else got a better deal. 

lolobugg

mace1229 said:

lolobugg said:

mace1229 said:

BK221359 said:

RatherStarved said:

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

You are probably posting this to make the case that PJ represents excellent value.  Which they do.  However, the Aerosmith pricing is actually more fair.  If you’re in the nosebleeds or behind the stage you don’t pay as much as someone in the best seats in the house.  At the very least I would like to see PJ introduce two price points.  Something simple like add $20 to the price of lowers and subtract $20 from uppers, or some similar numbers that would leave total revenue the same.  That way if someone gets dumped into an upper in the draw at least it buys a couple of beers for their misfortune.  

Aerosmith isn’t a valid comp…period.

The problem with that tiered pricing is I would imagine the bad seats would stay the same price, and the good seats would go up.
So with that in mind, I'm happy with the single price.

It almost seems like its not about the actual cost, just some people are upset they paid the same price for nosebleeds as someone in row 1 based on principle. 

I don't have a problem with the way PJ sets the pricing. however i feel bad for the poor fuckers that end up in the 300 section at the United Center. 

I don't. The place will sell out. I see it as they paid $162 for a $162 seat. Those lucky ones up from paid $162 for a $400 seat. Don't feel bad because someone else got a better deal. 

i don't feel guilty at all. i got the best deal in the reserved house. i earned it by being in this fan club for 30 years without letting my membership lapse. 

bbiggs

mace1229 said:

lolobugg said:

mace1229 said:

BK221359 said:

RatherStarved said:

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

You are probably posting this to make the case that PJ represents excellent value.  Which they do.  However, the Aerosmith pricing is actually more fair.  If you’re in the nosebleeds or behind the stage you don’t pay as much as someone in the best seats in the house.  At the very least I would like to see PJ introduce two price points.  Something simple like add $20 to the price of lowers and subtract $20 from uppers, or some similar numbers that would leave total revenue the same.  That way if someone gets dumped into an upper in the draw at least it buys a couple of beers for their misfortune.  

Aerosmith isn’t a valid comp…period.

The problem with that tiered pricing is I would imagine the bad seats would stay the same price, and the good seats would go up.
So with that in mind, I'm happy with the single price.

It almost seems like its not about the actual cost, just some people are upset they paid the same price for nosebleeds as someone in row 1 based on principle. 

I don't have a problem with the way PJ sets the pricing. however i feel bad for the poor fuckers that end up in the 300 section at the United Center. 

I don't. The place will sell out. I see it as they paid $162 for a $162 seat. Those lucky ones up from paid $162 for a $400 seat. Don't feel bad because someone else got a better deal. 

You're correct.  The place will sell out.  And those nosebleeds could have been sold in the public (VF) sale rather than via the 10C lottery.  That is where there is a mixed bag of opinions.  For some, they see this as a win because it puts more tickets into the hands of 10C members, albeit at the price of being in the nosebleeds, which never happened in previous tours.  For others, they see the 300 level as garbage seats that they did not expect to get via the 10C lottery, as it has never happened in the past.  No one is right or wrong.  It is a fair reaction either way.  And yes, I read and understood fully that "ten club has reserved more seats than past tours which means that some seats will be further away and higher up than past tours." 

symptomsfade

Just watch what you ask for with the pricing you might just get it.  Then when you win your lottery selection you’re gonna pay a possibly outrageous price.  Then I’m sure we will have a 100 page thread complaining about prices.  I feel like this is still more of a seating placement argument and not winning first priority over second priority.  Keep prices the same, correct the seating/priority mistake and keep the complaints to just “member for a 100 years how can I get shut out”.  Prices are fine.  Just my opinion, nothing to see here, carry on.  

mattcoz

RatherStarved said:

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

You are probably posting this to make the case that PJ represents excellent value.  Which they do.  However, the Aerosmith pricing is actually more fair.  If you’re in the nosebleeds or behind the stage you don’t pay as much as someone in the best seats in the house.  At the very least I would like to see PJ introduce two price points.  Something simple like add $20 to the price of lowers and subtract $20 from uppers, or some similar numbers that would leave total revenue the same.  That way if someone gets dumped into an upper in the draw at least it buys a couple of beers for their misfortune.  

I was thinking maybe they could do something like that, but then they would probably need to split up the reserved choice to lower and upper, like they did with rear/side. Making this more complicated is probably not a great idea considering they can't handle it the way it is now, heh.

mattcoz

aisleseats said:

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

Why am I always discriminated against?

That's what the asking prices will be at first, and some poor saps will actually pay that. But once they realize they aren't going to sell out at those prices, they'll drop the prices. Look at the Billy Joel/Stevie Nicks stadium tour. For some of those dates, they're completely sold out of 200 and 300 level upper deck seats, because those were cheaper. Meanwhile, they've sold almost none of the lower level and field seats because they're way overpriced...even after 3 price drops already.

That's the beauty of "dynamic pricing." They can charge whatever the hell they want at any time. There's been times when I've bought tickets at $139 the day they went on sale, only to have seats in the same section and row drop down to as low as $29 the week of the show.

The ugliness of "dynamic pricing" is when you click on a ticket for one price and then when it gets in your cart it's like $50 more. That happened over and over when I got tickets to Muse.

mace1229

symptomsfade said:

Just watch what you ask for with the pricing you might just get it.  Then when you win your lottery selection you’re gonna pay a possibly outrageous price.  Then I’m sure we will have a 100 page thread complaining about prices.  I feel like this is still more of a seating placement argument and not winning first priority over second priority.  Keep prices the same, correct the seating/priority mistake and keep the complaints to just “member for a 100 years how can I get shut out”.  Prices are fine.  Just my opinion, nothing to see here, carry on.  

My thoughts exactly. Those complaining about prices all being the same for nosebleeds and floor don't realize  to adjust accordingly they won't sell the 300s for less, they will sell the 100 and 200s for a lot more. Who wins in this scenario? Not the fans, that's for sure. 

Gern Blansten

mattcoz said:

aisleseats said:

PJINFLA said:

For a frame of reference Aerosmith pricing plus fees for farewell tour in Louisville.
 
Also dynamic pricing and price bump for aisle seats

Why am I always discriminated against?

That's what the asking prices will be at first, and some poor saps will actually pay that. But once they realize they aren't going to sell out at those prices, they'll drop the prices. Look at the Billy Joel/Stevie Nicks stadium tour. For some of those dates, they're completely sold out of 200 and 300 level upper deck seats, because those were cheaper. Meanwhile, they've sold almost none of the lower level and field seats because they're way overpriced...even after 3 price drops already.

That's the beauty of "dynamic pricing." They can charge whatever the hell they want at any time. There's been times when I've bought tickets at $139 the day they went on sale, only to have seats in the same section and row drop down to as low as $29 the week of the show.

The ugliness of "dynamic pricing" is when you click on a ticket for one price and then when it gets in your cart it's like $50 more. That happened over and over when I got tickets to Muse.

It's jacked up...and just shows the total control TM has over an already monopolized system.

I remember multiple times trying to buy tickets and getting the "someone else beat you to it" message. Then you come across three tickets in a row and it won't let you buy two of them so it doesn't leave a seat "stranded." Even though the people that were buying singles or odd numbers of seats fucked you over by leaving that third seat.

Eddieredder

Ah pricing. I got presale access to Aerosmith today through my season tix. The cheapest nosebleed tix were $175. Avg looked like $400. I'm more than cool with $165.