Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread
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 I don't think there is much to entangle. They have a list of all those with tickets to a show...they have everyone's 10C number...and they have a list of seats rated from best to worst. It's likely not that tough an exercise to do....but I do think they will take time to individually verify each show manually before we here...probably where most of the time will be spent.3days said:
 No one knows. Personally, I think there's a lot of yarn to untangle.Vedd Hedd said:when do we think we will start seeing the new seat allocations roll out?hippiemom = goodness0
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 Totally agree, i tend to think there might be more at play here which is why there is a delay. Maybe its nothing crazy but likely inputs we havent considered.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think there is much to entangle. They have a list of all those with tickets to a show...they have everyone's 10C number...and they have a list of seats rated from best to worst. It's likely not that tough an exercise to do....but I do think they will take time to individually verify each show manually before we here...probably where most of the time will be spent.3days said:
 No one knows. Personally, I think there's a lot of yarn to untangle.Vedd Hedd said:when do we think we will start seeing the new seat allocations roll out?2003 - Houston, Dallas, San Antonio | 2006 - Bridge School, Las Vegas, San Fran(x3) | 2008 - EV Santa Cruz, Berkeley, MSG 2
 2010 - Bridge School | 2012 - EV Austin | 2013 - Dallas | 2018 - Rome | 2022 - Oakland Night 10
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 That's me in the corner.Discopij said:
 Crap there I am in the corner nosebleeds!matt3846 said:Live image of seat re-assignment in progress… 
 That's me in the nosebleeds, up there with the pigeons.
 Trying to not get pissed at you.
 But I don't know if I can do it.
 Oh no I've said to much, I haven't said enoughPearl Jam: 9/4/00 7/1/03 5/30/06 6/22/08 6/24/08 6/25/08 8/23/09 8/24/09 10/28/09 10/31/09 5/20/10 10/15/13 8/7/16 9/2/18 9/4/18 9/5/23 9/7/23 8/29/24 8/31/24
 Eddie Vedder: 6/15/09 6/16/110
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 Im losing my position.....troubledsoulsuniteblog said:
 That's me in the corner.Discopij said:
 Crap there I am in the corner nosebleeds!matt3846 said:Live image of seat re-assignment in progress… 
 That's me in the nosebleeds, up there with the pigeons.
 Trying to not get pissed at you.
 But I don't know if I can do it.
 Oh no I've said to much, I haven't said enough0
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 I thought I had section 100craigraether said:
 Im losing my position.....troubledsoulsuniteblog said:
 That's me in the corner.Discopij said:
 Crap there I am in the corner nosebleeds!matt3846 said:Live image of seat re-assignment in progress… 
 That's me in the nosebleeds, up there with the pigeons.
 Trying to not get pissed at you.
 But I don't know if I can do it.
 Oh no I've said to much, I haven't said enough
 I thought that I had row 1
 I think I thought I'd see the stage
 But that was just a dream
 Just a dream, just a dreamPearl Jam: 9/4/00 7/1/03 5/30/06 6/22/08 6/24/08 6/25/08 8/23/09 8/24/09 10/28/09 10/31/09 5/20/10 10/15/13 8/7/16 9/2/18 9/4/18 9/5/23 9/7/23 8/29/24 8/31/24
 Eddie Vedder: 6/15/09 6/16/110
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 Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.bbiggs said:mattcoz said:
 I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.bbiggs said:Edved007 said:
 Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset. I think that's what stung me the most. Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.Hawk123 said:
 Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 Agree 100% with the bold part. When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close. I prefer it that way.
 Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.chester0711 said:
 Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable?mattcoz said:
 It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.lahren said:
 At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well. What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst. As their policy has changed, so has my perspective. It is all relative.
 1998: East Troy 2000: East Troy, Rosemont 2003: Champaign 2006: Chicago (UC), Milwaukee 2007: Chicago (Lolla) 2009: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2010: Noblesville 2011: East Troy (PJ20), East Troy (PJ20) 2013: Chicago (WF), Seattle 2014: St. Louis 2016: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2018: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2022: St. Louis 2023: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2024: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF)2025: Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh0
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 Yup, totally agree with you here. It is all going to be worked out fairly.mattcoz said:
 Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.bbiggs said:mattcoz said:
 I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.bbiggs said:Edved007 said:
 Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset. I think that's what stung me the most. Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.Hawk123 said:
 Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 Agree 100% with the bold part. When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close. I prefer it that way.
 Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.chester0711 said:
 Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable?mattcoz said:
 It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.lahren said:
 At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well. What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst. As their policy has changed, so has my perspective. It is all relative.2003 - Houston, Dallas, San Antonio | 2006 - Bridge School, Las Vegas, San Fran(x3) | 2008 - EV Santa Cruz, Berkeley, MSG 2
 2010 - Bridge School | 2012 - EV Austin | 2013 - Dallas | 2018 - Rome | 2022 - Oakland Night 10
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 Not sure how many years you consider as a long-time member ... but I am quite confident a 20-year member will get 300s in Chicagomattcoz said:
 Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.bbiggs said:mattcoz said:
 I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.bbiggs said:Edved007 said:
 Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset. I think that's what stung me the most. Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.Hawk123 said:
 Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 Agree 100% with the bold part. When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close. I prefer it that way.
 Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.chester0711 said:
 Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable?mattcoz said:
 It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.lahren said:
 At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well. What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst. As their policy has changed, so has my perspective. It is all relative.0
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            My 17 years have me in nosebleeds. It is what it is. I don't anticipate it getting better. I was in the 200s before the reassignment. And here's the thing, if I'm there I don't care. Somehow in 09 (I think) I got nosebleeds in the UC and the next night I was way closer. I'll be glad to see them two nights in a row. I'll be around good people (you people) and we'll enjoy the rafters.98: St. Louis. 2000: Alpine. 2003: Chicago. 2006: Chicago Night 2, Milwaukee Night 1. 2007: Chicago (Lolla). 2009: Chicago 1 & 2. 2011: Alpine 1 & 2. 2013: Chicago & LA Night 1. 2016: Chicago 1 & 2. 2018: Chicago 1 & 2.
 "Let the Ocean dissolve away my past."0
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 I am quite confident they won't. As a 23-year member, I was in 100 level. I'm expecting to move back a little, but no way it's that much.Discopij said:
 Not sure how many years you consider as a long-time member ... but I am quite confident a 20-year member will get 300s in Chicagomattcoz said:
 Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.bbiggs said:mattcoz said:
 I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.bbiggs said:Edved007 said:
 Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset. I think that's what stung me the most. Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.Hawk123 said:
 Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 Agree 100% with the bold part. When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close. I prefer it that way.
 Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.chester0711 said:
 Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable?mattcoz said:
 It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.lahren said:
 At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well. What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst. As their policy has changed, so has my perspective. It is all relative.
 1998: East Troy 2000: East Troy, Rosemont 2003: Champaign 2006: Chicago (UC), Milwaukee 2007: Chicago (Lolla) 2009: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2010: Noblesville 2011: East Troy (PJ20), East Troy (PJ20) 2013: Chicago (WF), Seattle 2014: St. Louis 2016: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2018: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2022: St. Louis 2023: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2024: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF)2025: Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh0
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 I hope you are right ... but the volume of PJ Premium seats has me nervousmattcoz said:
 I am quite confident they won't. As a 23-year member, I was in 100 level. I'm expecting to move back a little, but no way it's that much.Discopij said:
 Not sure how many years you consider as a long-time member ... but I am quite confident a 20-year member will get 300s in Chicagomattcoz said:
 Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.bbiggs said:mattcoz said:
 I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.bbiggs said:Edved007 said:
 Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset. I think that's what stung me the most. Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.Hawk123 said:
 Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 Agree 100% with the bold part. When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close. I prefer it that way.
 Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.chester0711 said:
 Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable?mattcoz said:
 It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.lahren said:
 At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well. What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst. As their policy has changed, so has my perspective. It is all relative.0
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 This is my 15th year. I'm fully expecting 300 level seats at this point.Discopij said:
 Not sure how many years you consider as a long-time member ... but I am quite confident a 20-year member will get 300s in Chicagomattcoz said:
 Can we wait until after the re-assignment? Long time members will not be getting 300 level seats after it is fixed.bbiggs said:mattcoz said:
 I'm selfish, I prefer paying less for my good 10C seats, lol.bbiggs said:Edved007 said:
 Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset. I think that's what stung me the most. Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.Hawk123 said:
 Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 Agree 100% with the bold part. When I go to a sporting event or any other concert, I pay more to sit close. I prefer it that way.
 Yup, exactly. But people see that when going to buy tickets and it's a shock, especially when all the face value tickets sell out so fast.chester0711 said:
 Its really the promoter trying to cut out the middle men (brokers/scalpers) If the promoter sells a ticket for $85 and the scalpers are successfully moving them for $250.....why wouldn't the promoter raise the price. Why let a scalper succeed. The market obviously dictates that the price is obtainable?mattcoz said:
 It's both, it's a lot of things. Overhead has increased since COVID, inflation has increased, and the venues/promoters are trying to recoup lost revenue from years of no concerts by raising prices and fees. The $1000 tickets have always existed, or close to them, they're just now being shown next to regular face value tickets instead of only on reseller sites.lahren said:
 At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.craigraether said:I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math.. 15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium.
 If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500
 If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ...
 Average price per Seat is $265...
 Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium.
 Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase)
 I always preferred paying less for my good 10C seats as well. What used to be 100 level seats at worst for me has now moved to 300 level seats at worst. As their policy has changed, so has my perspective. It is all relative.___________________________________________
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            So, what are your guesses for your seat reassignment?
 I think I'm Borderline.
 Section 100's for STP
 I'll guess,MAYBE more HOPE?, I'll be in Section 200's for Chicago shows.
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            Havent checked this thread in days - I take it no one has gotten final reassignments yet? I haven't.Randall's Island, NY 9/29/1996, Randall's Island, NY 6/8/1997 (Ed and Mike), Jones Beach, NY 8/23/2000, Los Angeles, CA 7/10/2006, Hartford, CT 6/27/2008, Los Angeles, CA 10/6/2009, San Diego, CA 11/21/2013, Los Angeles, CA 11/24/2013, MSG, NY 5/1/2016, Seattle, WA 8/10/2018, Los Angeles, CA 5/6/2022, Los Angeles, CA 5/7/2022, Camden, NJ 9/14/2022, St Paul 8/31/2023, St Paul 9/2/2023, Las Vegas 5/18/24, MSG NY 9/3/24, Philadelphia PA 9/9/24, Ohana CA 9/27/24, Atlanta, GA 4/29/25, Pittsburgh, PA 5/16/25, Pittsburgh, PA 5/18/250
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 Yeah I’d be happy with 200’s as long as I can face the stage but I’ve got a feeling I’ll end up on the floor behind GAcutz said:So, what are your guesses for your seat reassignment?
 I think I'm Borderline.
 Section 100's for STP
 I'll guess,MAYBE more HOPE?, I'll be in Section 200's for Chicago shows.
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 I'll trade you what most certainly will be 200 or 300 levels for the UC show!josevolution said:
 Yeah I’d be happy with 200’s as long as I can face the stage but I’ve got a feeling I’ll end up on the floor behind GAcutz said:So, what are your guesses for your seat reassignment?
 I think I'm Borderline.
 Section 100's for STP
 I'll guess,MAYBE more HOPE?, I'll be in Section 200's for Chicago shows.
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            Were just some side stage singles in the 120 section avail for Austin at face value. Must have popped up during the seat reassignments. Didn't last long.0
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