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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,762
    edited May 2023
    lahren said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    lahren said:
    ahydell said:
    lahren said:

    I'm confused. I don't think they have started reassignment yet. I'm guessing you may be in for yet another reassignment as I haven't heard of anyone getting one yet. That location with your member number doesn't make any sense at all if they are going to assign by seniority.
    supremely confused....and the new doesn't exist in Ticketstoday....so hopefully you're right, another seat assignment coming...
    I sure hope so. You have what I consider a pretty low member number! I can't imagine getting seats in the upper deck that far away even with my 365XXX number. Both my seat assignments were sec 104 and then 105, which I would have been fine with. It almost looks like they got that first assignment right in contrast to the other cities. Maybe we'll end up back where we started! lol.  I'm hoping they don't go yet further back but if they end up in the upper deck, I'm thinking I'll be leaving 10 club if that happens!
    I was in the 2nd wave of reserved confirmations last week... and while I could live with my seat selection being in the lower bowl, it still felt like it was further away than it should have been. I'm middle of the pack (425xxx), but i had way closer reserved seats in Denver '14 and Philly '16. 

    Granted there wasn't premium seating for those shows, and/or maybe there are more senior 10c members trying for STP N1... but still, it doesn't seem right that I'm that much further back from the stage in 2023 than I was in 2014. 

    This whole thing is a debacle. 
    I feel your pain. I ended up with sec 118 tix at Xcel in 2014. My assignments were a few sections back from that in the upper rows this time. Doesn't feel right. The demand for those tickets were very high. Every tour since the 90s has huge demand for their tix. That was 9 years ago! Shouldn't be going backwards at this point with membership since 2006.
    If I'm in the lower bowl, I'll be happy (although I REALLY don't want to be on the opposite end of the arena after all this time). If I get pushed up to the 200 because of premium seating, I'll be pretty bent. 

    There won't be anything i can do about it beyond not renewing my membership, but still & all... it will be a tough pill to swallow after all these years. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    kaw753 said:
    mattcoz said:
    kaw753 said:
    You can call me crazy, but I prefer to have good seats (at worst) before spending $1000+ on flights and hotels (plus maybe using vacation days). Being surprised with craptacular seats walking into an arena doesn't sound awesome.
    They were always good seats back then, just a matter of how good. Nobody ever got "craptacular" seats.
    I vote we go back to no craptacular seats!

    I signed up for 10C right after one of the LA shows in 2012. One of the members here scalped his other GA ticket to me for the obscene price of... $200. He shrugged his shoulders and said, "Gotta pay the bills." If anyone here wants to scalp me a GA ticket to any of the shows for $200, I promise not to report you.
    10C has been clear about this. It was a trade off. More seats for the fan club, but they also include some crap seats. 
    Having a fairly low number, I'm pretty confident my seats will never be horrible. So I appreciate the fact of almost a guarantee to win the lottery.
    Those with high numbers, I could see wanting a smaller chance of winning the lottery to begin with, but if you do they'd be good seats.

    Either way, they will probably have some unhappy customers unfortunately. 
  • RK50065
    RK50065 St. Louis, MO Posts: 897
    JojoRice said:
    I'm a 533xxx number and the best reserved seats that I've gotten for a show were for Greenville in 2016.  I was on the floor about 10 rows behind GA.  
    what was the demand for that show though? odd city but on a Saturday. hope you get good seats in St Paul!
  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    RK50065 said:
    JojoRice said:
    I'm a 533xxx number and the best reserved seats that I've gotten for a show were for Greenville in 2016.  I was on the floor about 10 rows behind GA.  
    what was the demand for that show though? odd city but on a Saturday. hope you get good seats in St Paul!
    I was a glorious 0 for 2 in the lottery for the South Carolina shows in 2016. I thought these had to be the easiest shows to get. Nope.
  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,899

  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    kaw753 said:
    mattcoz said:
    kaw753 said:
    You can call me crazy, but I prefer to have good seats (at worst) before spending $1000+ on flights and hotels (plus maybe using vacation days). Being surprised with craptacular seats walking into an arena doesn't sound awesome.
    They were always good seats back then, just a matter of how good. Nobody ever got "craptacular" seats.
    I vote we go back to no craptacular seats!

    I signed up for 10C right after one of the LA shows in 2012. One of the members here scalped his other GA ticket to me for the obscene price of... $200. He shrugged his shoulders and said, "Gotta pay the bills." If anyone here wants to scalp me a GA ticket to any of the shows for $200, I promise not to report you.
    I always wondered how often this would happen when I'd see friend groups flood the zone with GA requests then sell off extras privately on here
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    Not even counting all the ones that would get immediately locked that were like "I'll sell you my extra if you also cover my [ticket, poster, drinks, etc.]"
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    edited May 2023
    RK50065 said:
    JojoRice said:
    I'm a 533xxx number and the best reserved seats that I've gotten for a show were for Greenville in 2016.  I was on the floor about 10 rows behind GA.  
    what was the demand for that show though? odd city but on a Saturday. hope you get good seats in St Paul!
    It was 52% for reserved.  I actually still have a screenshot somewhere of the lottery odds from 2016 just before the submission window closed.  I'll post them for entertainment value....this picture was taken about 5 minutes before the submission window closed...

    Toronto GA was 11%.  Sorry pic got cutoff. 
    Post edited by JojoRice on
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  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,655
    edited May 2023
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Post edited by craigraether on
  • FC28207
    FC28207 Posts: 74
    ahydell said:
    CO278952 said:
    What day this week are we thinking seat reassignment emails will start rolling in?
    i got an awesome new seat assignment for STP2 yesterday...my only request for tix this tour was STP2...

    was awarded normal seats Sec 118, 8 rows off the floor and what I would expect for 108xxx number.
    credit card charged, all good.
    2 days later got an email saying my card wasn't charged and I needed to resubmit.
    then the note from 10C saying things were jacked up.
    patiently waited.
    got an email yesterday saying I'm now in Sec 216, yay me.
    and my new reservation I can't cancel...
    needless to say, worst ticket buying experience for any band in the history of my life, and it just happens to be my favorite band.
    I'm with whoever said let's go back to the 90's way....show up at the venue, get your tickets in an envelope and be surprised.
    too bad they can't figure this out in 2023...super super sour.
    You are 108xxx and got sec 200s. F-me im toast.  I don’t want 3 shows in 200s or worse.  I want my money back instead of that
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  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,367
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify. 
  • lahren
    lahren Posts: 111
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,655
    lahren said:
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    Its making up lost revenue from being shut down from March of 2020 until Sept of 2021... 
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    kaw753 said:
    You can call me crazy, but I prefer to have good seats (at worst) before spending $1000+ on flights and hotels (plus maybe using vacation days). Being surprised with craptacular seats walking into an arena doesn't sound awesome.
    Call me crazy but I have no idea what vacation days are 🤷
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Edved007
    Edved007 Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,065
    Hawk123 said:
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify. 
    Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset.  I think that's what stung me the most.  Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.
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  • lahren
    lahren Posts: 111
    edited May 2023
    craigraether said:
    lahren said:
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    Its making up lost revenue from being shut down from March of 2020 until Sept of 2021... 
    craigraether said:
    lahren said:
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    Its making up lost revenue from being shut down from March of 2020 until Sept of 2021... 
    That's one explanation. But I'm guessing prices are never coming down even years after the losses due to the pandemic. Another explanation is to look at the demographics of these shows. Back in the early 90s the average age of those attending was late teens early 20s. The bands were in their 20s themselves. Sad truth is that we are mostly middle aged fans with much higher incomes ready to spend whatever it takes to see our favorite bands. Supply and demand also is a big factor. If Pearl Jam sold tickets for premium prices in the Vitalogy or earlier years, the kids would not be alright with that. We probably would have turned on the band! We took it to heart that selling out was uncool!
    Post edited by lahren on
  • Kwieneke
    Kwieneke Indiana Posts: 2,103
    lahren said:
    craigraether said:
    lahren said:
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    Its making up lost revenue from being shut down from March of 2020 until Sept of 2021... 
    craigraether said:
    lahren said:
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    Its making up lost revenue from being shut down from March of 2020 until Sept of 2021... 
    That's one explanation. But I'm guessing prices are never coming down even years after the losses due to the pandemic. Another explanation is to look at the demographics of these shows. Back in the early 90s the average age of those attending was late teens early 20s. The bands were in their 20s themselves. Sad truth is that we are mostly middle aged fans with much higher incomes ready to spend whatever it takes to see our favorite bands. Supply and demand also is a big factor. If Pearl Jam sold tickets for premium prices in the Vitalogy or earlier years, the kids would not be alright with that. We probably would have turned on the band!
    I think this is a very true point. Most fans are well established at this point and willing to spend serious cash to see the band.
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  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    Edved007 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify. 
    Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset.  I think that's what stung me the most.  Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.
    That's not a bad idea.  Ed's solo and Earthling shows always have different prices depending on seat location.  PJ is one of the very few bands that has the same price throughout the entire venue.  The only other artist that comes to mind that does this is Garth Brooks. 
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  • BV84003
    BV84003 Holt, MI Posts: 477
    JojoRice said:
    Edved007 said:
    Hawk123 said:
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    Interesting to think about. If tickets were to creep up to $265 per seat, I’m probably sitting the show out unless they are really great seats. Pushing $600 for 2 people with parking is tough to justify. 
    Part of this is the way PJ keeps the price the same regardless of seat in the arena. Excluding premium, GA cost the same as 300's behind the stage. I'd be in favor of raising prices for the good seats and keeping the crappy one's the same or lowering to offset.  I think that's what stung me the most.  Paying $160+ for a seat in the very back corner is tough to swallow, but $160+ for a GA ticket is a smoking deal. I know it's luck of the draw for GA or not, and obviously the seating by seniority, but the prices could still reflect the seats. Enter for all you are comfortable with knowing if you get pulled for GA it's $250 a pop, lower res it's $175 and upper res it's $125 or something.
    That's not a bad idea.  Ed's solo and Earthling shows always have different prices depending on seat location.  PJ is one of the very few bands that has the same price throughout the entire venue.  The only other artist that comes to mind that does this is Garth Brooks. 
    Closer seats should always cost more IMO. GA is more of a crapshoot depending on how early you want to (or can) line up..  but certainly not all seats are equal, and shouldn't be priced equally. I guess by this logic, low TC #s would always be paying more for non-GA lottery wins than newer members. But there's really no reason why (hypothetically) section 110 right by the stage should cost the same as 336 in the whole opposite corner of the arena in the nosebleeds. None.
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  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,655
    edited May 2023
    Kwieneke said:
    lahren said:
    craigraether said:
    lahren said:
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    Its making up lost revenue from being shut down from March of 2020 until Sept of 2021... 
    craigraether said:
    lahren said:
    craigraether said:
    I was thinking about the premium thing.. and came up with this math..  15000 Capacity, 15% premium 12500 Standard, 2500 Premium. 
    If standard ticket $165 with Fees... total gate is $2,062,500 
    If Premium ticket is Average $800 with Fees .. that total is 2,000,000 ... 

    Average price per Seat is $265... 

    Would you pay $265 per seat, per show for No premium. 

    Puts things into perspective, when in 2020, the tickets were $122 ea with Fees, x 15000, total gate would be $1,830,000 (218% increase) 


    At what point is this inflation based versus pure gouging due to monopolized ticketing? I find it hard to believe that overhead has increased THAT much in just a few years. I'm looking at my old ticket stubs from the 80s and 90s and cannot comprehend how high the prices have become since. I paid $25 with fees in 1992 to see Metallica at the peak of their popularity, all general admission back then. It wasn't much different for Gun N Roses either in 1993. Guns N Roses AND Metallica in 1993 was $27.50. Lollapalooza in the early 90s was around $25 or so. Most ticket prices were under $50 until Madonna started charging those prices. I recently saw an old clip of Kurt Cobain's eyes going wide at the idea that Madonna was charging that much. Outrageous. I know times have changed, but come on. $1,000 plus tickets???!! Something's broken here.
    Its making up lost revenue from being shut down from March of 2020 until Sept of 2021... 
    That's one explanation. But I'm guessing prices are never coming down even years after the losses due to the pandemic. Another explanation is to look at the demographics of these shows. Back in the early 90s the average age of those attending was late teens early 20s. The bands were in their 20s themselves. Sad truth is that we are mostly middle aged fans with much higher incomes ready to spend whatever it takes to see our favorite bands. Supply and demand also is a big factor. If Pearl Jam sold tickets for premium prices in the Vitalogy or earlier years, the kids would not be alright with that. We probably would have turned on the band!
    I think this is a very true point. Most fans are well established at this point and willing to spend serious cash to see the band.

    This has been true for awhile now, but only now we see this increase in net price, I agree its part of the equation... why the big bump over 2020,... we have not all of sudden become better off in the past 3 years.. I would argue the opposite with inflation etc... This accomplishes two goals, keep pricing through the club reasonable for majority of fans, most of whom average 3-4 shows per tour.. and raising the net revenue per show..its a business after all.. Expect posters to be 50, and shirts too... If PJ can make the same or more money doing 9 shows vs doing 15-20 seems to be the answer.. 

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