So the scumbag 🤡 is ok with his supporters attacking the press he wants a civil war there’s no doubt in my mind that he’s going to instigate violence against ordinary citizens when he loses the election! I’m sorry but he needs to be put away or off this planet!
imagine going and getting yourself tazed and arrested on behalf of that guy.
about 1200 and counting have been there and done that already.....
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So the scumbag 🤡 is ok with his supporters attacking the press he wants a civil war there’s no doubt in my mind that he’s going to instigate violence against ordinary citizens when he loses the election! I’m sorry but he needs to be put away or off this planet!
If he's sent to Mars, that would ruin the plot of "Quick Escape."
So the scumbag 🤡 is ok with his supporters attacking the press he wants a civil war there’s no doubt in my mind that he’s going to instigate violence against ordinary citizens when he loses the election! I’m sorry but he needs to be put away or off this planet!
If he's sent to Mars, that would ruin the plot of "Quick Escape."
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So the scumbag 🤡 is ok with his supporters attacking the press he wants a civil war there’s no doubt in my mind that he’s going to instigate violence against ordinary citizens when he loses the election! I’m sorry but he needs to be put away or off this planet!
If he's sent to Mars, that would ruin the plot of "Quick Escape."
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The whole point of everything has been to make people angry. Abortion, bibles in schools, photo ops at national cemeteries. Make one side call foul, then the other side takes offense.
A divided populace is easier to control. Eddie said it best. Who wants to keep living under that sort of bullshit? I can think of at least one poster here.
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He thinks atheists and agnostics have no value system?
Was he not vetted at all??
I can't help but wonder if this is all the drip drip of oppo research that was stolen from the campaign. It will keep coming out over the next several weeks.
Been waiting for the vaunted gop attack machine. Harris team been doing pretty good so far.
This will turn out well. Talk about draining the swamp, eh? Would do wonders for the economy and the middle class, I’m sure. Rejuvenates the term “robber barons”, don’t you know? These fucking people.
Trump eyes plan that may give Elon Musk role in auditing U.S. agencies
The GOP presidential nominee has discussed asking executives to comb through federal books. For Musk, the task could bring conflicts of interest.
Behind closed doors, former president Donald Trump and his advisers have been talking for months about forming a commission led by prominent business executives to comb through the government books to identify thousands of programs to cut.
Lately, one particularly famous candidate has made clear he’d be up for it: Elon Musk. And he may have much to gain personally from the endeavor.
On several occasions, including on X, the social media platform he owns, the Tesla and SpaceX chief executive has expressed interest in being part of a “government efficiency commission” aimed at eliminating wasteful regulations and spending. Musk in August posted an apparently artificial intelligence-generated image of himself behind a lectern labeled “Department of Government Efficiency,” with the acronym DOGE — a meme-based cryptocurrency Musk has previously embraced.
Musk’s potential involvement in a government regulatory and spending commission has sparked concerns from ethics experts who point to conflicts of interest that could emerge between such a post and his business empire. But Trump advisers are eager to bring in prominent corporate leaders to compile a high-profile list of federal excess, reprising efforts similar to those led by President Ronald Reagan and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who once published an annual “Waste Book” on allegedly frivolous spending.
Trump last week downplayed the idea that Musk would join his Cabinet — but also said Musk might be a helpful consultant to the federal government.
“He wants to be involved, but look, he’s running big businesses and all that ... so he can’t really” be in the Cabinet, Trump said on the Shawn Ryan Show. “He can sort of, as the expression goes, consult with the country and give you some very good ideas.”
Musk did not respond to a request for comment.
Musk has increasingly used X as a megaphone to support Trump and bash his opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris. But as the two billionaires have moved into a closer political alliance, scrutiny is mounting over the potential financial benefits a potential second Trump administration could deliver to Musk.
After favoring Joe Biden in 2020, Musk has now fully embraced Trump. He helped create a SuperPAC, America PAC, in support of the Republican candidate, which has raised at least $8.7 million from wealthy donors — including former Tesla board member Antonio Gracias, Palantir co-founder and Austin-based tech investor Joe Lonsdale, and Sequoia Capital investor Shaun Maguire — as of June 30, the most recent date for which public filings are available.
Although Tesla has benefited from Biden’s electric vehicle subsidies, Musk’s companies have also faced greater regulatory scrutiny than they did under Trump’s administration, as the White House has embarked upon more pro-union policies and a crackdown on alleged corporate malfeasance.
Over the past few years, for example, the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission have advanced investigations into Tesla’s marketing of its driver-assistance technologies. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced a recall of almost every Tesla after a widespread investigation concluded that the company had done too little to ensure that drivers pay attention to the road while using its Autopilot driver-assistance system.
Meanwhile, the SEC has opened a separate investigation into X, formerly Twitter, which Musk purchased in 2022, and the National Labor Relations Board is investigating allegations of harassment at SpaceX. Both SpaceX and Starlink, Musk’s satellite business, would likely benefit from fresh federal contracts, as the GOP platform calls for increased satellite investment and accelerating space exploration toward Mars.
Musk has also praised Trump’s desire to do away with EV tax credits, even as he acknowledged such a policy could hurt his company in the short term. The billionaire, who has called for the removal of subsidies “from all industries,” said canceling those incentives would be “devastating for our competitors” and only “hurt Tesla slightly.”
Trump has previously railed against electric vehicles, but has been vocalabout how Musk’s support has influenced his view: “I’m for electric cars,” Trump said at a rally last month. “I have to be because Elon endorsed me very strongly.”
Some Trump advisers downplayed how much clout Musk would have in a second administration. Among the other names that could be considered for the commission are Fred Smith, the former CEO of FedEx, and Robert Nardelli, the former CEO of Home Depot, said two people familiar with the idea, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Musk’s businesses are closely intertwined with federal spending already.
Tesla has been paid $36 million in federal funds to install at least 328 EV charging plugs, according to policy and data research firm Atlas Public Policy. SpaceX won a NASA contract in 2021 worth up to $4.4 billion to build a human landing system for the Artemis moon missions. The company has already received $2.2 billion under the agreement in taxpayer money.
It raises questions that the commission’s focus is on saving taxpayer dollars, but you have someone potentially involved whose company is one of the biggest recipients of federal spending,” said Anna Massoglia, a money in politics expert at the nonprofit organization OpenSecrets. “Cracking down on government waste and abuse is important, but we also need to have accountability mechanisms so private sector actors involved in this kind of program can’t manipulate it for personal gain.”
Samuel Hammond, a policy expert at the center-right Foundation for American Innovation, pointed out that Democratic nominee Vice President Kamala Harris also has numerous large Silicon Valley boosters and other donors with extensive business in front of the federal government.
“Do Kamala Harris backers want to get subsidies for clean energy projects?” Hammond said. “In the case of Musk, I think his main demand is to be left alone.”
Trump’s interest in the commission is partly a response to a political and substantive problem facing his campaign — the GOP presidential nominee’s plans might inflate the national debt. He has pushed several trillions of dollars in additional tax cuts for his second term, and proposed nowhere near that amount in new revenue.
Trump has for months expressed interest in establishing a “blue ribbon” commission of top executives to eliminate wasteful federal spending, said Steve Moore, who pitched the former president on the idea. Moore said the plan was modeled after the Grace Commission, a Reagan-era panel that recommended billions of dollars in spending cuts. Most of its recommendations were never implemented, but they helped provide rhetorical fuel to anti-spending arguments by conservatives.
“It should be a high priority. We have a lot of spending and waste to cut if we’re going to extend the Trump tax cuts or do these other things he wants to do,” Moore said. “You’ll have to find redundancies and inefficiencies and obsolescence, but the good news is we haven’t done this in a couple decades.”
Former House speaker Newt Gingrich and Art Laffer — who have sometimes advised Trump on economic policy — strongly favor the plan, they said in interviews. Nonpartisan budget hawks also expressed support for the idea.
Moore said he was unsure if Musk would be interested in chairing the commission, but said he would be “absolutely perfect to run it.”
Some critics, however, say this effort could amount to a mostly symbolic attempt to arrest government spending. Increased costs for Social Security and Medicare are the primary drivers of the nation’s long-term fiscal imbalance, and many budget experts are skeptical that such a commission — which would still need approval in Congress — could translate into meaningful deficit reduction. Trump’s plans are projected to add an additional $2 trillion to the debt at least, although precise estimates are difficult because of the vagueness of his promises.
A commission that involves Musk to identify spending cuts could help distract from Trump’s plans to increase the deficit — but also seal their political alliance.
Toward the end of a meandering, two-hour plus conversation on X between Trump and Musk last month, the Republican candidate fawned over how many people tuned into the conversation and said Musk’s endorsement meant more than most.
“That endorsement meant a lot to me,” Trump said of Musk’s July endorsement. “Not all endorsements mean that much, to be honest. Your endorsement meant a lot.”
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Dubbed the “J6 Awards Gala,” the event was initially scheduled for Thursday, but its website now lists the event as postponed and its location as “undetermined.”
The event had been touted as a celebration of Jan. 6 defendants and a fundraiser for their legal fees. Tickets ranged from $1,500 per person for general admission to $50,000 for a “platinum table” for 12 at the VIP reception. Trump was listed as an “invited speaker” but was not expected to attend.
The event’s featured guests had included some of the most notorious names in the MAGA world. Among them were former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been indicted in Arizona and Georgia on charges of trying to help Trump steal the 2020 election (he has pleaded not guilty) and who is also dealing with the fallout from defaming two Georgia election workers; and Peter Navarro, who served a four-month sentence after being convicted of contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the Jan. 6 House select committee.
The event website did not provide a reason for the postponement. Organizer L.J. Fino told Fox Business that it was because of “scheduling conflicts of invited guest speakers” and that they expect the event to take place after the November election. However, The New York Times reported Sunday that it had obtained text messages in which event planners cited “multiple issues outside of our control, the main one being safety concerns of attendees and staff.” (MSNBC has not verified the Times’ reporting.)
Dubbed the “J6 Awards Gala,” the event was initially scheduled for Thursday, but its website now lists the event as postponed and its location as “undetermined.”
The event had been touted as a celebration of Jan. 6 defendants and a fundraiser for their legal fees. Tickets ranged from $1,500 per person for general admission to $50,000 for a “platinum table” for 12 at the VIP reception. Trump was listed as an “invited speaker” but was not expected to attend.
The event’s featured guests had included some of the most notorious names in the MAGA world. Among them were former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been indicted in Arizona and Georgia on charges of trying to help Trump steal the 2020 election (he has pleaded not guilty) and who is also dealing with the fallout from defaming two Georgia election workers; and Peter Navarro, who served a four-month sentence after being convicted of contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the Jan. 6 House select committee.
The event website did not provide a reason for the postponement. Organizer L.J. Fino told Fox Business that it was because of “scheduling conflicts of invited guest speakers” and that they expect the event to take place after the November election. However, The New York Times reported Sunday that it had obtained text messages in which event planners cited “multiple issues outside of our control, the main one being safety concerns of attendees and staff.” (MSNBC has not verified the Times’ reporting.)
this is kind of like having the domestic terrorism awards to honor mass shooters and people like timothy mcveigh and rittenhouse.
my guess is the postponement was due to people they planned to recognize are still in jail, on house arrest, no longer supporting trump, or too broke to fly there.
it is a bad look for trump, but everyone should know that it being a bad look would never discourage him from hosting it.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Dubbed the “J6 Awards Gala,” the event was initially scheduled for Thursday, but its website now lists the event as postponed and its location as “undetermined.”
The event had been touted as a celebration of Jan. 6 defendants and a fundraiser for their legal fees. Tickets ranged from $1,500 per person for general admission to $50,000 for a “platinum table” for 12 at the VIP reception. Trump was listed as an “invited speaker” but was not expected to attend.
The event’s featured guests had included some of the most notorious names in the MAGA world. Among them were former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been indicted in Arizona and Georgia on charges of trying to help Trump steal the 2020 election (he has pleaded not guilty) and who is also dealing with the fallout from defaming two Georgia election workers; and Peter Navarro, who served a four-month sentence after being convicted of contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the Jan. 6 House select committee.
The event website did not provide a reason for the postponement. Organizer L.J. Fino told Fox Business that it was because of “scheduling conflicts of invited guest speakers” and that they expect the event to take place after the November election. However, The New York Times reported Sunday that it had obtained text messages in which event planners cited “multiple issues outside of our control, the main one being safety concerns of attendees and staff.” (MSNBC has not verified the Times’ reporting.)
this is kind of like having the domestic terrorism awards to honor mass shooters and people like timothy mcveigh and rittenhouse.
my guess is the postponement was due to people they planned to recognize are still in jail, on house arrest, no longer supporting trump, or too broke to fly there.
it is a bad look for trump, but everyone should know that it being a bad look would never discourage him from hosting it.
These people are criminals and they deserve their sentences, but it's going too far to analogize them to mass shooters or Timothy McVeigh.
Dubbed the “J6 Awards Gala,” the event was initially scheduled for Thursday, but its website now lists the event as postponed and its location as “undetermined.”
The event had been touted as a celebration of Jan. 6 defendants and a fundraiser for their legal fees. Tickets ranged from $1,500 per person for general admission to $50,000 for a “platinum table” for 12 at the VIP reception. Trump was listed as an “invited speaker” but was not expected to attend.
The event’s featured guests had included some of the most notorious names in the MAGA world. Among them were former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been indicted in Arizona and Georgia on charges of trying to help Trump steal the 2020 election (he has pleaded not guilty) and who is also dealing with the fallout from defaming two Georgia election workers; and Peter Navarro, who served a four-month sentence after being convicted of contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the Jan. 6 House select committee.
The event website did not provide a reason for the postponement. Organizer L.J. Fino told Fox Business that it was because of “scheduling conflicts of invited guest speakers” and that they expect the event to take place after the November election. However, The New York Times reported Sunday that it had obtained text messages in which event planners cited “multiple issues outside of our control, the main one being safety concerns of attendees and staff.” (MSNBC has not verified the Times’ reporting.)
this is kind of like having the domestic terrorism awards to honor mass shooters and people like timothy mcveigh and rittenhouse.
my guess is the postponement was due to people they planned to recognize are still in jail, on house arrest, no longer supporting trump, or too broke to fly there.
it is a bad look for trump, but everyone should know that it being a bad look would never discourage him from hosting it.
These people are criminals and they deserve their sentences, but it's going too far to analogize them to mass shooters or Timothy McVeigh.
what would you say if they had actually hanged mike pence? or killed someone like pelosi, or any of the others on their hitlist?
i am generally in the camp to be lenient on first time offenders and am anti death penalty, unless they are involved with treason or insurrection. these people on 1/6 would have killed people in congress if they had been able to get to them. i believe they need to be made an example of, so i do not think i am that far off. especially with mcveigh, because it is the same sentiment that he held.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Dubbed the “J6 Awards Gala,” the event was initially scheduled for Thursday, but its website now lists the event as postponed and its location as “undetermined.”
The event had been touted as a celebration of Jan. 6 defendants and a fundraiser for their legal fees. Tickets ranged from $1,500 per person for general admission to $50,000 for a “platinum table” for 12 at the VIP reception. Trump was listed as an “invited speaker” but was not expected to attend.
The event’s featured guests had included some of the most notorious names in the MAGA world. Among them were former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been indicted in Arizona and Georgia on charges of trying to help Trump steal the 2020 election (he has pleaded not guilty) and who is also dealing with the fallout from defaming two Georgia election workers; and Peter Navarro, who served a four-month sentence after being convicted of contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the Jan. 6 House select committee.
The event website did not provide a reason for the postponement. Organizer L.J. Fino told Fox Business that it was because of “scheduling conflicts of invited guest speakers” and that they expect the event to take place after the November election. However, The New York Times reported Sunday that it had obtained text messages in which event planners cited “multiple issues outside of our control, the main one being safety concerns of attendees and staff.” (MSNBC has not verified the Times’ reporting.)
this is kind of like having the domestic terrorism awards to honor mass shooters and people like timothy mcveigh and rittenhouse.
my guess is the postponement was due to people they planned to recognize are still in jail, on house arrest, no longer supporting trump, or too broke to fly there.
it is a bad look for trump, but everyone should know that it being a bad look would never discourage him from hosting it.
These people are criminals and they deserve their sentences, but it's going too far to analogize them to mass shooters or Timothy McVeigh.
what would you say if they had actually hanged mike pence? or killed someone like pelosi, or any of the others on their hitlist?
i am generally in the camp to be lenient on first time offenders and am anti death penalty, unless they are involved with treason or insurrection. these people on 1/6 would have killed people in congress if they had been able to get to them. i believe they need to be made an example of, so i do not think i am that far off. especially with mcveigh, because it is the same sentiment that he held.
I might say something different, but they didn't hang Mike Pence or kill Nancy Pelosi and it's a big step from chanting "Hang Mike Pence" to actually hanging Mike Pence. McVeigh indiscriminately and wantonly killed 168 people. The insurrectionists deserved/deserve to have the book thrown at them, but they are not mass murderers.
Dubbed the “J6 Awards Gala,” the event was initially scheduled for Thursday, but its website now lists the event as postponed and its location as “undetermined.”
The event had been touted as a celebration of Jan. 6 defendants and a fundraiser for their legal fees. Tickets ranged from $1,500 per person for general admission to $50,000 for a “platinum table” for 12 at the VIP reception. Trump was listed as an “invited speaker” but was not expected to attend.
The event’s featured guests had included some of the most notorious names in the MAGA world. Among them were former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been indicted in Arizona and Georgia on charges of trying to help Trump steal the 2020 election (he has pleaded not guilty) and who is also dealing with the fallout from defaming two Georgia election workers; and Peter Navarro, who served a four-month sentence after being convicted of contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the Jan. 6 House select committee.
The event website did not provide a reason for the postponement. Organizer L.J. Fino told Fox Business that it was because of “scheduling conflicts of invited guest speakers” and that they expect the event to take place after the November election. However, The New York Times reported Sunday that it had obtained text messages in which event planners cited “multiple issues outside of our control, the main one being safety concerns of attendees and staff.” (MSNBC has not verified the Times’ reporting.)
this is kind of like having the domestic terrorism awards to honor mass shooters and people like timothy mcveigh and rittenhouse.
my guess is the postponement was due to people they planned to recognize are still in jail, on house arrest, no longer supporting trump, or too broke to fly there.
it is a bad look for trump, but everyone should know that it being a bad look would never discourage him from hosting it.
These people are criminals and they deserve their sentences, but it's going too far to analogize them to mass shooters or Timothy McVeigh.
what would you say if they had actually hanged mike pence? or killed someone like pelosi, or any of the others on their hitlist?
i am generally in the camp to be lenient on first time offenders and am anti death penalty, unless they are involved with treason or insurrection. these people on 1/6 would have killed people in congress if they had been able to get to them. i believe they need to be made an example of, so i do not think i am that far off. especially with mcveigh, because it is the same sentiment that he held.
I might say something different, but they didn't hang Mike Pence or kill Nancy Pelosi and it's a big step from chanting "Hang Mike Pence" to actually hanging Mike Pence. McVeigh indiscriminately and wantonly killed 168 people. The insurrectionists deserved/deserve to have the book thrown at them, but they are not mass murderers.
Dubbed the “J6 Awards Gala,” the event was initially scheduled for Thursday, but its website now lists the event as postponed and its location as “undetermined.”
The event had been touted as a celebration of Jan. 6 defendants and a fundraiser for their legal fees. Tickets ranged from $1,500 per person for general admission to $50,000 for a “platinum table” for 12 at the VIP reception. Trump was listed as an “invited speaker” but was not expected to attend.
The event’s featured guests had included some of the most notorious names in the MAGA world. Among them were former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been indicted in Arizona and Georgia on charges of trying to help Trump steal the 2020 election (he has pleaded not guilty) and who is also dealing with the fallout from defaming two Georgia election workers; and Peter Navarro, who served a four-month sentence after being convicted of contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the Jan. 6 House select committee.
The event website did not provide a reason for the postponement. Organizer L.J. Fino told Fox Business that it was because of “scheduling conflicts of invited guest speakers” and that they expect the event to take place after the November election. However, The New York Times reported Sunday that it had obtained text messages in which event planners cited “multiple issues outside of our control, the main one being safety concerns of attendees and staff.” (MSNBC has not verified the Times’ reporting.)
this is kind of like having the domestic terrorism awards to honor mass shooters and people like timothy mcveigh and rittenhouse.
my guess is the postponement was due to people they planned to recognize are still in jail, on house arrest, no longer supporting trump, or too broke to fly there.
it is a bad look for trump, but everyone should know that it being a bad look would never discourage him from hosting it.
These people are criminals and they deserve their sentences, but it's going too far to analogize them to mass shooters or Timothy McVeigh.
what would you say if they had actually hanged mike pence? or killed someone like pelosi, or any of the others on their hitlist?
i am generally in the camp to be lenient on first time offenders and am anti death penalty, unless they are involved with treason or insurrection. these people on 1/6 would have killed people in congress if they had been able to get to them. i believe they need to be made an example of, so i do not think i am that far off. especially with mcveigh, because it is the same sentiment that he held.
I might say something different, but they didn't hang Mike Pence or kill Nancy Pelosi and it's a big step from chanting "Hang Mike Pence" to actually hanging Mike Pence. McVeigh indiscriminately and wantonly killed 168 people. The insurrectionists deserved/deserve to have the book thrown at them, but they are not mass murderers.
Next time they will kill people he’s going to instigate violence against the liberals lefties!
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about 1200 and counting have been there and done that already.....
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A divided populace is easier to control. Eddie said it best. Who wants to keep living under that sort of bullshit? I can think of at least one poster here.
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Trump eyes plan that may give Elon Musk role in auditing U.S. agencies
The GOP presidential nominee has discussed asking executives to comb through federal books. For Musk, the task could bring conflicts of interest.
Behind closed doors, former president Donald Trump and his advisers have been talking for months about forming a commission led by prominent business executives to comb through the government books to identify thousands of programs to cut.
Lately, one particularly famous candidate has made clear he’d be up for it: Elon Musk. And he may have much to gain personally from the endeavor.
On several occasions, including on X, the social media platform he owns, the Tesla and SpaceX chief executive has expressed interest in being part of a “government efficiency commission” aimed at eliminating wasteful regulations and spending. Musk in August posted an apparently artificial intelligence-generated image of himself behind a lectern labeled “Department of Government Efficiency,” with the acronym DOGE — a meme-based cryptocurrency Musk has previously embraced.
Musk’s potential involvement in a government regulatory and spending commission has sparked concerns from ethics experts who point to conflicts of interest that could emerge between such a post and his business empire. But Trump advisers are eager to bring in prominent corporate leaders to compile a high-profile list of federal excess, reprising efforts similar to those led by President Ronald Reagan and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who once published an annual “Waste Book” on allegedly frivolous spending.
Trump last week downplayed the idea that Musk would join his Cabinet — but also said Musk might be a helpful consultant to the federal government.
“He wants to be involved, but look, he’s running big businesses and all that ... so he can’t really” be in the Cabinet, Trump said on the Shawn Ryan Show. “He can sort of, as the expression goes, consult with the country and give you some very good ideas.”
Musk did not respond to a request for comment.
Musk has increasingly used X as a megaphone to support Trump and bash his opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris. But as the two billionaires have moved into a closer political alliance, scrutiny is mounting over the potential financial benefits a potential second Trump administration could deliver to Musk.
After favoring Joe Biden in 2020, Musk has now fully embraced Trump. He helped create a SuperPAC, America PAC, in support of the Republican candidate, which has raised at least $8.7 million from wealthy donors — including former Tesla board member Antonio Gracias, Palantir co-founder and Austin-based tech investor Joe Lonsdale, and Sequoia Capital investor Shaun Maguire — as of June 30, the most recent date for which public filings are available.
Although Tesla has benefited from Biden’s electric vehicle subsidies, Musk’s companies have also faced greater regulatory scrutiny than they did under Trump’s administration, as the White House has embarked upon more pro-union policies and a crackdown on alleged corporate malfeasance.
Over the past few years, for example, the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission have advanced investigations into Tesla’s marketing of its driver-assistance technologies. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced a recall of almost every Tesla after a widespread investigation concluded that the company had done too little to ensure that drivers pay attention to the road while using its Autopilot driver-assistance system.
Meanwhile, the SEC has opened a separate investigation into X, formerly Twitter, which Musk purchased in 2022, and the National Labor Relations Board is investigating allegations of harassment at SpaceX. Both SpaceX and Starlink, Musk’s satellite business, would likely benefit from fresh federal contracts, as the GOP platform calls for increased satellite investment and accelerating space exploration toward Mars.
Musk has also praised Trump’s desire to do away with EV tax credits, even as he acknowledged such a policy could hurt his company in the short term. The billionaire, who has called for the removal of subsidies “from all industries,” said canceling those incentives would be “devastating for our competitors” and only “hurt Tesla slightly.”
Trump has previously railed against electric vehicles, but has been vocalabout how Musk’s support has influenced his view: “I’m for electric cars,” Trump said at a rally last month. “I have to be because Elon endorsed me very strongly.”
Some Trump advisers downplayed how much clout Musk would have in a second administration. Among the other names that could be considered for the commission are Fred Smith, the former CEO of FedEx, and Robert Nardelli, the former CEO of Home Depot, said two people familiar with the idea, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Musk’s businesses are closely intertwined with federal spending already.
Tesla has been paid $36 million in federal funds to install at least 328 EV charging plugs, according to policy and data research firm Atlas Public Policy. SpaceX won a NASA contract in 2021 worth up to $4.4 billion to build a human landing system for the Artemis moon missions. The company has already received $2.2 billion under the agreement in taxpayer money.
It raises questions that the commission’s focus is on saving taxpayer dollars, but you have someone potentially involved whose company is one of the biggest recipients of federal spending,” said Anna Massoglia, a money in politics expert at the nonprofit organization OpenSecrets. “Cracking down on government waste and abuse is important, but we also need to have accountability mechanisms so private sector actors involved in this kind of program can’t manipulate it for personal gain.”
Samuel Hammond, a policy expert at the center-right Foundation for American Innovation, pointed out that Democratic nominee Vice President Kamala Harris also has numerous large Silicon Valley boosters and other donors with extensive business in front of the federal government.
“Do Kamala Harris backers want to get subsidies for clean energy projects?” Hammond said. “In the case of Musk, I think his main demand is to be left alone.”
Trump’s interest in the commission is partly a response to a political and substantive problem facing his campaign — the GOP presidential nominee’s plans might inflate the national debt. He has pushed several trillions of dollars in additional tax cuts for his second term, and proposed nowhere near that amount in new revenue.
Trump has for months expressed interest in establishing a “blue ribbon” commission of top executives to eliminate wasteful federal spending, said Steve Moore, who pitched the former president on the idea. Moore said the plan was modeled after the Grace Commission, a Reagan-era panel that recommended billions of dollars in spending cuts. Most of its recommendations were never implemented, but they helped provide rhetorical fuel to anti-spending arguments by conservatives.
“It should be a high priority. We have a lot of spending and waste to cut if we’re going to extend the Trump tax cuts or do these other things he wants to do,” Moore said. “You’ll have to find redundancies and inefficiencies and obsolescence, but the good news is we haven’t done this in a couple decades.”
Former House speaker Newt Gingrich and Art Laffer — who have sometimes advised Trump on economic policy — strongly favor the plan, they said in interviews. Nonpartisan budget hawks also expressed support for the idea.
Moore said he was unsure if Musk would be interested in chairing the commission, but said he would be “absolutely perfect to run it.”
Some critics, however, say this effort could amount to a mostly symbolic attempt to arrest government spending. Increased costs for Social Security and Medicare are the primary drivers of the nation’s long-term fiscal imbalance, and many budget experts are skeptical that such a commission — which would still need approval in Congress — could translate into meaningful deficit reduction. Trump’s plans are projected to add an additional $2 trillion to the debt at least, although precise estimates are difficult because of the vagueness of his promises.
A commission that involves Musk to identify spending cuts could help distract from Trump’s plans to increase the deficit — but also seal their political alliance.
Toward the end of a meandering, two-hour plus conversation on X between Trump and Musk last month, the Republican candidate fawned over how many people tuned into the conversation and said Musk’s endorsement meant more than most.
“That endorsement meant a lot to me,” Trump said of Musk’s July endorsement. “Not all endorsements mean that much, to be honest. Your endorsement meant a lot.”
What a brown noser piece of shit he truly is.
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The Jan. 6 'Awards Gala' at Trump's golf course has been postponed indefinitely
The event’s featured guests had included some of the most notorious names in the MAGA world, including Rudy Giuliani and Peter Navarro.
Sep. 3, 2024, 1:03 PM EDT
A fundraising event for Jan. 6 defendants, which had been scheduled to take place this week at Donald Trump’s golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, has been postponed indefinitely.
Dubbed the “J6 Awards Gala,” the event was initially scheduled for Thursday, but its website now lists the event as postponed and its location as “undetermined.”
The event had been touted as a celebration of Jan. 6 defendants and a fundraiser for their legal fees. Tickets ranged from $1,500 per person for general admission to $50,000 for a “platinum table” for 12 at the VIP reception. Trump was listed as an “invited speaker” but was not expected to attend.
The event’s featured guests had included some of the most notorious names in the MAGA world. Among them were former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been indicted in Arizona and Georgia on charges of trying to help Trump steal the 2020 election (he has pleaded not guilty) and who is also dealing with the fallout from defaming two Georgia election workers; and Peter Navarro, who served a four-month sentence after being convicted of contempt of Congress for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the Jan. 6 House select committee.
The event website did not provide a reason for the postponement. Organizer L.J. Fino told Fox Business that it was because of “scheduling conflicts of invited guest speakers” and that they expect the event to take place after the November election. However, The New York Times reported Sunday that it had obtained text messages in which event planners cited “multiple issues outside of our control, the main one being safety concerns of attendees and staff.” (MSNBC has not verified the Times’ reporting.)
The decision to host an event at Trump’s golf club to honor and raise money for Jan. 6 defendants was audacious, but not entirely surprising. Trump himself is facing criminal charges over his role in the attacks (he has pleaded not guilty), and he has vowed to pardon Jan. 6 defendants if he returns to the White House, including those who assaulted police officers that day. This past Sunday, he told Fox News that he had “every right” to interfere in the 2020 election.
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my guess is the postponement was due to people they planned to recognize are still in jail, on house arrest, no longer supporting trump, or too broke to fly there.
it is a bad look for trump, but everyone should know that it being a bad look would never discourage him from hosting it.
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i am generally in the camp to be lenient on first time offenders and am anti death penalty, unless they are involved with treason or insurrection. these people on 1/6 would have killed people in congress if they had been able to get to them. i believe they need to be made an example of, so i do not think i am that far off. especially with mcveigh, because it is the same sentiment that he held.
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