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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,196
    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    pjl44 said:
    Lookin' good


    what is wrong with him? is he stiffing his makeup people now?

    look at all that sweat on his shirt around his tie.

    could trump be the first person since 1982 to actually experience the dreaded "ring around the collar"?
    That's an altered photo, right? I mean, yikes! That can't be real. 
    as far as i have seen it is real. it was in arizona where it is really hot. it's conceivable that he sweat off a lot of his bronzer around his eyes and mouth, which is typically where people wipe when they are sweaty.
    Did the heat cause that neck-vagina?
    That’s an insult to vaginas. You should apologize.
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  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,677
    BF25394 said:
    i just read that per rfk running mate, they are holding off on dropping out and endorsing trump until trump comes out and says operation warp speed was a failure.

    this is literally the only thing his administration did right. and rfk wants him to renounce it.

    as i think about it more, trump is probably going to do it because he has been running away from warp speed for a while now.
    Don't give him the dignity of referring to him as "RFK." Call him "RFK Jr." at best. RFK is spinning in his grave at the embarrassment his son has become.
    OMG it’s his son don’t think he is aware of what the dems have become, that is the whole point. Incredulous to think you know better.

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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,113
    Bobby already rolled over in his grave when Teddy dumped his car in the drink so good chance he's not tuned in to any of this
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,113
    I mean can you believe a KENNEDY of all people is erratic?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,633
    tbergs said:
    pjl44 said:
    Lookin' good


    what is wrong with him? is he stiffing his makeup people now?

    look at all that sweat on his shirt around his tie.

    could trump be the first person since 1982 to actually experience the dreaded "ring around the collar"?
    That's an altered photo, right? I mean, yikes! That can't be real. 

    Arizona border in August? Sweating his make up off
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,633
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,633
    cnn undecided's interview post convention...

    the lone fuckstick "now will vote for"

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,031
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    cnn undecided's interview post convention...

    the lone fuckstick "now will vote for"

    undecided my ass. funny that the maga undecided did not admit he was maga. fuck these duplicitous people.
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  • njhaley1njhaley1 Posts: 566
    edited August 23
    mickeyrat said:
    cnn undecided's interview post convention...

    the lone fuckstick "now will vote for"

    undecided my ass. funny that the maga undecided did not admit he was maga. fuck these duplicitous people.
    I thought this was funny:


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,633
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,633

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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,633
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,285
    edited August 24
    BF25394 said:
    i just read that per rfk running mate, they are holding off on dropping out and endorsing trump until trump comes out and says operation warp speed was a failure.

    this is literally the only thing his administration did right. and rfk wants him to renounce it.

    as i think about it more, trump is probably going to do it because he has been running away from warp speed for a while now.
    Don't give him the dignity of referring to him as "RFK." Call him "RFK Jr." at best. RFK is spinning in his grave at the embarrassment his son has become.
    OMG it’s his son don’t think he is aware of what the dems have become, that is the whole point. Incredulous to think you know better.
    What are you even saying here? "What the Dems have become"? Whatever you think that is, the rest of Junior's family is on board with it, and they've disavowed his political and "scientific" positions. Robert F. Kennedy Sr. was a flawed person who nonetheless worked very hard to improve the lives of people much less fortunate than he was, and he ultimately gave his life in that pursuit. His son is a crank who spouts dangerous nonsense that preys on people's ignorance and puts them and their children at risk. It's not hard to "know better" than him. The guy continues to cite a fraudulent, retracted paper that misled a lot of people into falsely believing that vaccines cause autism. He's a disgrace.

    EDIT: Statement by five of Kennedy's siblings today: "Our brother Bobby's decision to endorse Trump today is a betrayal of the values that our father and our family hold most dear. It is a sad ending to a sad story." I'm incredulous to think that they know better!
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,405
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,633
    edited August 24


    Well that may have been a fringe suggestion it's not about being on the ticket it's about being in the cabinet
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    2023

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,633
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,633
    if true. ...


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,633
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,113
    There are like a dozen batshit insane present day things about RFK Jr. Why would anyone care that he sold blow in college.
  • njhaley1njhaley1 Posts: 566
    pjl44 said:
    There are like a dozen batshit insane present day things about RFK Jr. Why would anyone care that he sold blow in college.
    One of the saddest things about the past 8yrs is that shit like this has been normalized. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,513
    pjl44 said:
    There are like a dozen batshit insane present day things about RFK Jr. Why would anyone care that he sold blow in college.

    Before 2016 that would have been a major issue for any major party potus candidate.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,196
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    “Hey asshole, get off the stage, I’m the big tough guy.” Or, “I’ll just take a wittle nap and rest my hands because they’re going to be busy in a minute or so.”


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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,113
    njhaley1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    There are like a dozen batshit insane present day things about RFK Jr. Why would anyone care that he sold blow in college.
    One of the saddest things about the past 8yrs is that shit like this has been normalized. 
    I don't know that it's been normalized but for me it's like how far down the list is it for HIM
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,113
    I think it would be a big story if Nikki Haley sold coke for example 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,196
    2023
    From WaPo comments section:

    Dear fellow citizens,

    I write to you as a concerned citizen. I am a retired person who had a 23 year law enforcement career in a large county in California. I am a person who deeply respects your commitment to our country and its people. The passion with which you support former President Trump is evident and it’s clear that your love for America drives your political choices. However, I want to ask you to reconsider your support for Donald Trump, not out of political opposition, but out of a shared concern for the principles that make America great—humanity, integrity, and the rule of law.

    Over the years, we have seen Trump engage in behavior that raises serious questions about his respect for the core values that bind us together. His rhetoric has often been divisive, racist, xenophobic, misogynistic and dangerous, targeting marginalized communities and undermining the dignity of individuals based on race, religion, lifestyle and nationality. This is not the humanity that America aspires to. Our country is built on the belief that all people are created equal and that everyone deserves respect, dignity and humanity regardless of their background or station in life. 

    Moreover, Trump’s legal troubles cannot be ignored. While everyone is innocent until proven guilty, the sheer number and gravity of the criminal allegations against him suggest a pattern of behavior that is far from presidential. The multiple indictments and ongoing investigations, including those related to efforts to overturn a legitimate election, speak to a disregard for the rule of law. As Americans, we must hold our leaders to the highest standards. When the leader of our country shows disdain for the laws that govern us all, it undermines the very foundation of our democracy....cont
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,196
    2023
    Also from WaPo comments section. Telling the truth is no longer a reason to vote for/against someone, eh?

    “He has no empathy, no morals and no fidelity to the truth. He used to tell me, ‘It doesn’t matter what you say, Stephanie. Say it enough and people will believe you.’”---Stephanie Grisham (Trump Administration Press Secretary)

    As President, Donald J Trump made 30,573 documented false or misleading claims, and his rate of lying only increased after the voters fired him. Trump forced fact-checkers to invent a new category of lies: the “Bottomless Pinocchio” for egregious falsehoods that were repeated at least 20 times after having been publicly and definitively debunked.

    After his secret campaign to re-impose political corruption in Ukraine came to light, the rate of false or misleading claims by Trump increased significantly, to 22 false claims per day, on average. It has only escalated since then.


    “Billy, look, look, you just tell them [anything] and they believe it. That’s it. You just tell them and they believe it. They just do.” —Donald J Trump


    "There's a word: disinformation. If you say it enough and keep saying it — just keep saying it — and they'll start to believe you," – Donald J Trump


    “The point of modern propaganda isn't only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” – Garry Kasparov

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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,285
    pjl44 said:
    njhaley1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    There are like a dozen batshit insane present day things about RFK Jr. Why would anyone care that he sold blow in college.
    One of the saddest things about the past 8yrs is that shit like this has been normalized. 
    I don't know that it's been normalized but for me it's like how far down the list is it for HIM
    Plus you have to remember that Junior came from a very hardscrabble background as one of eleven children of a single parent...
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
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