---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    2023
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    POOTWH’s ego won’t allow him to drop out. The only thing I can think of that might be palatable would be a plea bargain whereas he pleads guilty, agrees he drops out and doesn’t run in exchange for no jail time. And the plea agreement would be under seal so POOTWH could grift off the made up unfairness of it all, have a podcast or some other stupid media outlet that his deluded base could access. He’s the biggest carnival barker the world has ever seen, had the pleasure of knowing and proving PT Barnum was right.
    I don't see how the DOJ could or would make a deal that includes him dropping out.  That would be a mistake and feed the right wing narrative that the charges were only made to damage him and make him leave the race.  
    POOTWH is a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States. Similar to how Michael Milken was a clear and present danger to Wall Street and was denied securities training on Wall Street for life, I believe. But he also served jail time.
    How is he a clear and present danger to national security? 
    uh...have you not been aware that he stole classified documents? Some DoD related stuff included?
    Biden stole documents when he was a Senator and then VP. 

    Do you know what papers Biden had? I don't and no one wants to talk about it but Biden had more than Trump did. Does that concern you at all?
    He didn't actually.

    "Stole" refers to being asked to return documents that the archives knew that tRump had. He lied and said he didn't have them, told associates to hide them, then got them taken away by the FBI.

    Biden immediately (as well as Pence) returned the documents that were requested.

    No where near the same offense. I think you know this.
    Is it illegal to hold and retain classified documents? I don't know if Biden "stole" them or not. The fact of the matter is that he had them in his position. Trump had documents and they were locked away. The government knew he had them. Biden has held classified documents for years out in the open. Are you not concerned about the papers that Biden had because of a bias?
    Out in the open? Nothing Biden has is out in the open. All of his properties are under secret service monitoring.

    And again...tRump tried to hide what he had. Biden (and Pence) immediately surrendered the documents requested. No one would fault tRump for having a few classified documents in his possession. The fault becomes telling his employees to move them around his property to hide them. Let that sink in. HIS EMPLOYEES HAD ACCESS TO TOP SECRET DOCUMENTS.
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  • mickeyrat
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    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    POOTWH’s ego won’t allow him to drop out. The only thing I can think of that might be palatable would be a plea bargain whereas he pleads guilty, agrees he drops out and doesn’t run in exchange for no jail time. And the plea agreement would be under seal so POOTWH could grift off the made up unfairness of it all, have a podcast or some other stupid media outlet that his deluded base could access. He’s the biggest carnival barker the world has ever seen, had the pleasure of knowing and proving PT Barnum was right.
    I don't see how the DOJ could or would make a deal that includes him dropping out.  That would be a mistake and feed the right wing narrative that the charges were only made to damage him and make him leave the race.  
    POOTWH is a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States. Similar to how Michael Milken was a clear and present danger to Wall Street and was denied securities training on Wall Street for life, I believe. But he also served jail time.
    How is he a clear and present danger to national security? 
    uh...have you not been aware that he stole classified documents? Some DoD related stuff included?
    Biden stole documents when he was a Senator and then VP. 

    Do you know what papers Biden had? I don't and no one wants to talk about it but Biden had more than Trump did. Does that concern you at all?
    He didn't actually.

    "Stole" refers to being asked to return documents that the archives knew that tRump had. He lied and said he didn't have them, told associates to hide them, then got them taken away by the FBI.

    Biden immediately (as well as Pence) returned the documents that were requested.

    No where near the same offense. I think you know this.
    Is it illegal to hold and retain classified documents? I don't know if Biden "stole" them or not. The fact of the matter is that he had them in his position. Trump had documents and they were locked away. The government knew he had them. Biden has held classified documents for years out in the open. Are you not concerned about the papers that Biden had because of a bias?
    Out in the open? Nothing Biden has is out in the open. All of his properties are under secret service monitoring.

    And again...tRump tried to hide what he had. Biden (and Pence) immediately surrendered the documents requested. No one would fault tRump for having a few classified documents in his possession. The fault becomes telling his employees to move them around his property to hide them. Let that sink in. HIS EMPLOYEES HAD ACCESS TO TOP SECRET DOCUMENTS.

    docs weren't requested of biden and pence. once the warrant was served on fuckstick , they both made an offer to search or had their attorneys search, no warrant needed. it wasnt known what either had.

    I dont recall if biden had anything classified or not but both did have some documents that belonged with NARA.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,178
    2023
    He did...and I'm sure a lot of what tRump had was marked classified and likely not of use to anyone. But the top secret docs that tRump attempted to hide are the issue. Nothing compares to this.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    2024
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    POOTWH’s ego won’t allow him to drop out. The only thing I can think of that might be palatable would be a plea bargain whereas he pleads guilty, agrees he drops out and doesn’t run in exchange for no jail time. And the plea agreement would be under seal so POOTWH could grift off the made up unfairness of it all, have a podcast or some other stupid media outlet that his deluded base could access. He’s the biggest carnival barker the world has ever seen, had the pleasure of knowing and proving PT Barnum was right.
    I don't see how the DOJ could or would make a deal that includes him dropping out.  That would be a mistake and feed the right wing narrative that the charges were only made to damage him and make him leave the race.  
    POOTWH is a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States. Similar to how Michael Milken was a clear and present danger to Wall Street and was denied securities training on Wall Street for life, I believe. But he also served jail time.
    How is he a clear and present danger to national security? 
    uh...have you not been aware that he stole classified documents? Some DoD related stuff included?
    Biden stole documents when he was a Senator and then VP. 

    Do you know what papers Biden had? I don't and no one wants to talk about it but Biden had more than Trump did. Does that concern you at all?
    this is the trump thread. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    2024
    god I'm sick of conservatives being such snowflakes. *gets schooled*. "WAH, WAH, PERSONAL ATTACK!" get off the internet if you can't handle being wrong. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,160
    2023
    Only the best people, folks. Only the best.

    Rudy Giuliani has his own troubles in the news today, unrelated to the attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. His former assistant Noelle Dunphy is suing him for sexual harassment and abuse, and new transcripts filed in the New York Supreme Court of Giuliani’s own words reveal disturbing fantasies of sexual domination that are unlikely to help his reputation. (Historian Kevin Kruse retweeted part of the transcript with the words, “Goodbye, lunch.”) 
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    Only the best people, folks. Only the best.

    Rudy Giuliani has his own troubles in the news today, unrelated to the attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. His former assistant Noelle Dunphy is suing him for sexual harassment and abuse, and new transcripts filed in the New York Supreme Court of Giuliani’s own words reveal disturbing fantasies of sexual domination that are unlikely to help his reputation. (Historian Kevin Kruse retweeted part of the transcript with the words, “Goodbye, lunch.”) 
    These tits are mine these tits are mine! What a creepy old bastard I’d like to see him in jail too
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,160
    2023
    Only the best people, folks. Only the best.

    Rudy Giuliani has his own troubles in the news today, unrelated to the attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election. His former assistant Noelle Dunphy is suing him for sexual harassment and abuse, and new transcripts filed in the New York Supreme Court of Giuliani’s own words reveal disturbing fantasies of sexual domination that are unlikely to help his reputation. (Historian Kevin Kruse retweeted part of the transcript with the words, “Goodbye, lunch.”) 
    These tits are mine these tits are mine! What a creepy old bastard I’d like to see him in jail too
    Moving on Borat’s sister was real. Wonder if Ruddy had a SAG card?
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  • static111
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    Scio me nihil scire

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  • mrussel1
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    static111 said:
    The election act of 1876 was clarified to ensure that no one could claim that the VP had the authority to determine the proper electors.  
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,071
    2023
    static111 said:
    my guess it is a smokescreen, or an exaggeration, or distortion of the truth for his base to believe, like they always do.
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  • mickeyrat
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    static111 said:
    my guess it is a smokescreen, or an exaggeration, or distortion of the truth for his base to believe, like they always do.

    no. what was understood then, wasnt explicit. now it is.
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  • static111
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    2023
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    The election act of 1876 was clarified to ensure that no one could claim that the VP had the authority to determine the proper electors.  
    So they went back in time?

    edit: Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022 got it so they updated the old law with a new law that spells it out for would be election overthrows....gee wonder why they thought that was necessary Donny?
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  • mickeyrat
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,071
    2023
    he is in the courthouse now.

    wonder how emphatically he will please not guilty.

    "i plead 100% not guilty. I broke no laws, and everything was done perfectly, and everybody knows it."
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,071
    2023
    maga knows it is not welcome in dc.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,160
    2023
    Ruddy’s newsmax meltdown is worth the watch.

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