---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,072
    2023
    Is it legal to use political campaign donations to pay for personal legal bills?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    2023
    static111 said:
    Is it legal to use political campaign donations to pay for personal legal bills?
    i would not think so, but i do not know for sure. seems suspect to me. 

    i know trump well enough to know that trump is going to use any money that does not come out of his own pocket first.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    2023
    static111 said:
    Is it legal to use political campaign donations to pay for personal legal bills?
    Probably just as legal as it is to use it to pay hush money to porn stars.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    Poncier said:
    static111 said:
    Is it legal to use political campaign donations to pay for personal legal bills?
    Probably just as legal as it is to use it to pay hush money to porn stars.

    PAC money can be used for a variety of things. And I'd imagine at some point he included defense fund to the fine print....
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    2023
    yes, this is a real truth from trump. he made it about 24 hours before he started trying to intimidate attorneys, witnesses, judges, etc. likely a violation of his pre trial release.


    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    he is getting the best attorneys that having no money can buy.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    2023
    yes, this is a real truth from trump. he made it about 24 hours before he started trying to intimidate attorneys, witnesses, judges, etc. likely a violation of his pre trial release.


    i mean at this point he is triple dog daring somebody to: 

    1. act out on his behalf
    2. actually arrest him and take him in to custody, which nobody seems to want to do, and he knows that.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    The best attorneys your money can buy. Suckers.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    2023
    Sure, complain about Hunter while ignoring the elephant in the room.

    Opinion  Jared and Ivanka are slinking back to Gomorrah

    If only Ivanka Trump were as witty as Barbie. Instead, she and her Ken, Jared Kushner, somnambulate like renegades from the wax museum from one investment fund to the next. Preternaturally perfect and utterly lacking in affect, Javanka, as they’re called, make real dolls seem animated.

    Do you suppose the naked pursuit of power and money makes people unhappy? Or, in their case, is it the killer company they keep?

    Both spawns of excessive wealth and privilege, Ivanka and Jared are reason enough to cast Donald Trump into the outer darkness. Their presence in the White House from 2017 to 2021 was a frequent embarrassment, as they convinced themselves that their value amounted to more than the family name. For a while after the 2020 election, they distanced themselvesfrom Trump, which meant we were all spared their spectral visages.

    But those days are nigh gone, as the pair appears to be back in search of the family ring. (Run, Gollum, run.)

    Their timing is undoubtedly connected to recent polling showing Trump leading his GOP competitorsby nearly 40 points. Family loyalty apparently is a lot like reality TV; it’s all about the ratings. However, reports of the couple dropping in on meetings and attending family gatherings came before a federal grand jury issued a four-count criminal indictment charging Trump with co-conspiring to overturn the 2020 election results, defrauding the American people and aiding the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

    Trump could be doomed. Or not. With him, one never knows. It’s hard to gauge whether these latest charges will budge his supporters. I doubt it, since to be a Trump fan is to distrust everyone other than He Who Must Be Obeyed. Nor do supporters probably care that Jared and Ivanka took advantage of their White House status to enrich themselves.

    Ivanka might be forgiven for her conflicted relationship with Trump. He’s Daddy, after all. But familial attachments do not — and did not — qualify her or Kushner to serve as senior advisers to the president of the United States. When Kushner was denied security clearance by career intelligence officers because of concerns about foreign influence, outside business interests and personal conduct, Trump overrode them.

    As for Kushner’s credulity-straining role as impromptu diplomat to the Middle East, we can only wonder what other conversations took place as he persuaded leaders in Israel, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Sudan and Morocco to recognize Israel’s sovereignty and normalize relations among them. The Abraham Accords are widely viewed as a landmark development toward building relationships and mitigating tensions in the Persian Gulf region. But it is also increasingly clear that Kushner was simultaneously securing his own financial future via massive investments in his pop-up private equity firm, Affinity Partners, by many of the very same countries that signed the accords. Quellecoincidence.

    Kushner’s biggest financial backer, however, was Saudi Arabia, which declined to sign the accords. This was of no consequence to Kushner, who was already pals with Mohammed bin Salman, commonly known as MBS, before joining the Trump White House. The two “princes,” both then in their 30s and eager to establish themselves on the international stage, reportedly bonded as only the born elite can.

    Less than six months after leaving the White House, Kushner secured a $2 billion commitment from the Saudi sovereign wealth fund, which MBS controls, despite opposition from the fund’s board of directors because of Kushner’s lack of experience in private equity. Other countries followed suit, including signatories to the accords — the UAE, Qatar, Sudan and Morocco. Today, Affinity’s investment commitments have reached at least $3 billion, which is not a bad haul for a young adviser to a twice-impeached president who, recently arrested for the third time, faces several fresh indictments.

    Lest I be accused of marinating in my own self-righteous disdain, as former National Review editor Rich Lowry has characterized Kushner critics, let’s be clear. Federal law prohibits using one’s public position for personal gain. I can’t prove Kushner used his position to procure funding for Affinity Partners, but to believe otherwise would be ingenuous.

    Even if he didn’t break any laws, Kushner crossed every conceivable ethical line in his relationship with MBS by defending him inside the White House when he was under international fire for the murder of Saudi dissident and Post contributing columnist Jamal Khashoggi — even after the CIA concluded that MBS had ordered the killing. As Donald Trump bragged to Bob Woodward, “I saved his a--.”

    At the same time, Trump sold $8 billion in weapons to Saudi Arabia after vetoing congressional resolutions to block the sale. If the $2 billion wasn’t payback, what was it? Perhaps a down payment on future favors from a second-term President Trump.

    No one’s naive here. The United States is forced at times to negotiate with bad actors. But shouldn’t there be limits to what we ignore and, thus, condone to achieve our goals? To essentially dismiss Khashoggi’s ghastly murder seems to me a dismembered body too far.

    You can hear the Trumpets already. Oh, yeah? What about Hunter Biden? Good question. You don’t hear me saying nothing to see here. Investigations are ongoing into Biden’s financial dealings with Ukraine and China, and there seems to be plenty to see. The truth is all three of these entitled darlings are skunks — Hunter, Ivanka and Jared. But don’t blame the little furry fellah. That smell is the stench of corruption.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/04/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-corruption-return/

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,852
    edited August 2023
    yes, this is a real truth from trump. he made it about 24 hours before he started trying to intimidate attorneys, witnesses, judges, etc. likely a violation of his pre trial release.


    i mean at this point he is triple dog daring somebody to: 

    1. act out on his behalf
    2. actually arrest him and take him in to custody, which nobody seems to want to do, and he knows that.


    This statement appears to be against the law. The judge needs to summon him back to court asap and ask for immediate explanation of this comment. Let him clarify, and if it’s a threat against the prosecutors or judge, put him in jail.

    If they’re not putting him in jail, stop wasting everyone’s time , just drop all the charges and let him assume control.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
    Seems to be a weird standard asking the one making the threats if they are threats.

     Whereas in a case of sexual harassment its the  one being harassed who actually determines if it's harassment or not. 

    So it seems to me the same standard should apply those who might or do feel threatened are the ones who say it's a threat.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,852
    mickeyrat said:
    Seems to be a weird standard asking the one making the threats if they are threats.

     Whereas in a case of sexual harassment its the  one being harassed who actually determines if it's harassment or not. 

    So it seems to me the same standard should apply those who might or do feel threatened are the ones who say it's a threat.

    Give him the opportunity to clarify the exact meaning of his words. Any other defendant would be in jail right now. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,852
    edited August 2023
    mickeyrat said:


    This is weak. He will just get his lawyers, Bannon et Al to disseminate his words. He should have been hauled back to DC by now. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    2025
    Lock him up already! He doesn’t deserve the benefit of doubt 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,370
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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