I believe true moderates saw this coming. I noticed that there were way less signs out than there usually are around here(Northern New England). I told my wife there is a lot more support for Trump this time around. Typically most people around the towns surrounding mine have some sort of sign up supporting or criticism a candidate.
I believe a lot of moderates didn't want to admit who they were voting for due to Trump being a horrible (in my opinion) person. Hopefully the Democratic party pulls away from the far left and makes a comeback next time around.
Hopefully the Republicans will resist the temptation to enact far right policies while they control, the House, Senate and presidency.
As an independent, I don't understand this point of view. The Republican party consists almost entirely of radicals. Most of the moderates have left the party since Trump. Most of the elected moderates have been primaried by more radical MAGA types. The Democrats are not beholden to the far left to the extent that the Republicans are beholden to the far right. Two of the key factions in the Biden coalition that won the 2020 election were socially conservative black church ladies and moderate suburban women. Look at it this way. Far-right voters voted for Trump enthusiastically. Nothing he does can dissuade them from supporting him. Far-left voters (the pro-Hamas people, the defund-the-police people) either held their nose while voting for Harris or didn't vote at all, because she's not actually as radical as they are.
One of the comical thing about our politics is how the Republicans successfully paint Democrats as radicals when their party is the one that wants to fire the civil servants, overturn the long-enshrined right to abortion, abandon NATO, destroy the administrative state, and overturn elections. The Republicans get an amazing amount of mileage out of fringe issues like transgender rights. (I don't mean to sound dismissive of transgender rights, but the fact is that a very small number of voters are making voting decisions based on where the parties stand on that issue. Many Democrats are ambivalent about trans rights, and even among the majority of Democrats who support trans rights, it is not high on their list of top issues. But Republicans manage to convince people that an overwhelming majority of Democrats want to turn your little boy into a little girl. It says a lot about the influence of Republican media that hammers home these wedge issues all day every day.)
While the second sentence is true, I'm not sure the first is...at least in terms of how people vote. If the moderates were not voting MAGA, MAGA would be toast.
The first sentence of the second paragraph is spot-on, though I don't know that it's the candidates...more podcasters, AM radio, and all the other echo-chambers and fringe-mainstream sources that spend 23.5 hours per day spewing fear, shock, and outrage.
The point you're making in your last sentence is what I was getting at in my last sentence.
I thought the peaceful transfer of power was a bedrock of our constitutional republic.
I guess for the majority of voters it is not.
It’s not it started with fuck face refusing to accept the 2020 outcome not even showing up at inauguration but it’s always the democrats that have to show good faith!
Hypothetically what would happen if Trump is involved of tampering with the election results? I wouldn't put it past him if that happens.
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Hypothetically what would happen if Trump is involved of tampering with the election results? I wouldn't put it past him if that happens.
At this point zero nada zilch! He def could shoot someone or grab a woman by her privates in front of cameras and he would get applause from his deplorable supporters
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“It’s not hard to understand why voters reject the premise,” Pennsylvania GOP consultant Brock McCleary said. “The fair-minded voter looks at Trump’s first term and concludes that he’s either really bad at instituting fascism, or it’s just another empty moniker from Trump’s powerful enemies.”
In Scranton on Wednesday, Matt Wolfson, a 45-year-old former construction worker, looked around at poverty in the Rust Belt city and thought the nation needed a change in leadership.
Wolfson said he didn’t love the dictatorial aspect of Trump’s personality, but thought it could help keep the country out of wars and maybe bring peace to some other conflicts, including in Ukraine.
“He’s good and bad. People say he’s a dictator. I believe that. I consider him like Hitler,” Wolfson said. “But I voted for the man.”
I need to thank you because I haven’t cranked FI in awhile and wifey just left to drive kiddo somewhere, so it’s a good time for me to CRANK some Tool, but why are we posting Tempest here?
I need to thank you because I haven’t cranked FI in awhile and wifey just left to drive kiddo somewhere, so it’s a good time for me to CRANK some Tool, but why are we posting Tempest here?
I need to thank you because I haven’t cranked FI in awhile and wifey just left to drive kiddo somewhere, so it’s a good time for me to CRANK some Tool, but why are we posting Tempest here?
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Donald Trump and his allies have characterized the 2024 election as an overwhelming victory—and a mandate for shock politics, mass deportations, and the transformation of the country’s foreign and domestic policy. There’s just one problem: They didn’t actually win by much.
CNN’s Harry Enten reports that Trump is now under 50 percent for the popular vote, and his margin is the forty-fourth worst out of 51 presidential elections since 1824. Four Democrats won Senate seats in states that Trump won (Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada), compared to zero in the 2016 and 2020 elections. And while Republicans held on to their House majority, if results hold, their 221–214 margin will be the smallest majority in the 50-state era.
Trump’s appointments are not going to help with the House’s Republican majority, with many of Trump’s choices being elected GOP members. These include Representatives Elise Stefanik as his U.N. ambassador, Mike Waltz as his national security adviser, and Matt Gaetz (who has already resigned) as his attorney general, among others.
Republicans will point out that Trump in 2024 became the first GOP presidential candidate to win the popular vote since 2004 and the second since 1988, but he will arrive in office with a narrow majority in the Senate as well—just a three-seat majority if Democratic Senator Bob Casey loses his seat, which he looks likely to.
Donald Trump and his allies have characterized the 2024 election as an overwhelming victory—and a mandate for shock politics, mass deportations, and the transformation of the country’s foreign and domestic policy. There’s just one problem: They didn’t actually win by much.
CNN’s Harry Enten reports that Trump is now under 50 percent for the popular vote, and his margin is the forty-fourth worst out of 51 presidential elections since 1824. Four Democrats won Senate seats in states that Trump won (Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada), compared to zero in the 2016 and 2020 elections. And while Republicans held on to their House majority, if results hold, their 221–214 margin will be the smallest majority in the 50-state era.
Trump’s appointments are not going to help with the House’s Republican majority, with many of Trump’s choices being elected GOP members. These include Representatives Elise Stefanik as his U.N. ambassador, Mike Waltz as his national security adviser, and Matt Gaetz (who has already resigned) as his attorney general, among others.
Republicans will point out that Trump in 2024 became the first GOP presidential candidate to win the popular vote since 2004 and the second since 1988, but he will arrive in office with a narrow majority in the Senate as well—just a three-seat majority if Democratic Senator Bob Casey loses his seat, which he looks likely to.
Donald Trump and his allies have characterized the 2024 election as an overwhelming victory—and a mandate for shock politics, mass deportations, and the transformation of the country’s foreign and domestic policy. There’s just one problem: They didn’t actually win by much.
CNN’s Harry Enten reports that Trump is now under 50 percent for the popular vote, and his margin is the forty-fourth worst out of 51 presidential elections since 1824. Four Democrats won Senate seats in states that Trump won (Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada), compared to zero in the 2016 and 2020 elections. And while Republicans held on to their House majority, if results hold, their 221–214 margin will be the smallest majority in the 50-state era.
Trump’s appointments are not going to help with the House’s Republican majority, with many of Trump’s choices being elected GOP members. These include Representatives Elise Stefanik as his U.N. ambassador, Mike Waltz as his national security adviser, and Matt Gaetz (who has already resigned) as his attorney general, among others.
Republicans will point out that Trump in 2024 became the first GOP presidential candidate to win the popular vote since 2004 and the second since 1988, but he will arrive in office with a narrow majority in the Senate as well—just a three-seat majority if Democratic Senator Bob Casey loses his seat, which he looks likely to.
Donald Trump and his allies have characterized the 2024 election as an overwhelming victory—and a mandate for shock politics, mass deportations, and the transformation of the country’s foreign and domestic policy. There’s just one problem: They didn’t actually win by much.
CNN’s Harry Enten reports that Trump is now under 50 percent for the popular vote, and his margin is the forty-fourth worst out of 51 presidential elections since 1824. Four Democrats won Senate seats in states that Trump won (Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada), compared to zero in the 2016 and 2020 elections. And while Republicans held on to their House majority, if results hold, their 221–214 margin will be the smallest majority in the 50-state era.
Trump’s appointments are not going to help with the House’s Republican majority, with many of Trump’s choices being elected GOP members. These include Representatives Elise Stefanik as his U.N. ambassador, Mike Waltz as his national security adviser, and Matt Gaetz (who has already resigned) as his attorney general, among others.
Republicans will point out that Trump in 2024 became the first GOP presidential candidate to win the popular vote since 2004 and the second since 1988, but he will arrive in office with a narrow majority in the Senate as well—just a three-seat majority if Democratic Senator Bob Casey loses his seat, which he looks likely to.
Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president President Trump Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
Donald Trump and his allies have characterized the 2024 election as an overwhelming victory—and a mandate for shock politics, mass deportations, and the transformation of the country’s foreign and domestic policy. There’s just one problem: They didn’t actually win by much.
CNN’s Harry Enten reports that Trump is now under 50 percent for the popular vote, and his margin is the forty-fourth worst out of 51 presidential elections since 1824. Four Democrats won Senate seats in states that Trump won (Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada), compared to zero in the 2016 and 2020 elections. And while Republicans held on to their House majority, if results hold, their 221–214 margin will be the smallest majority in the 50-state era.
Trump’s appointments are not going to help with the House’s Republican majority, with many of Trump’s choices being elected GOP members. These include Representatives Elise Stefanik as his U.N. ambassador, Mike Waltz as his national security adviser, and Matt Gaetz (who has already resigned) as his attorney general, among others.
Republicans will point out that Trump in 2024 became the first GOP presidential candidate to win the popular vote since 2004 and the second since 1988, but he will arrive in office with a narrow majority in the Senate as well—just a three-seat majority if Democratic Senator Bob Casey loses his seat, which he looks likely to.
Common sense Americans know this.
IT could never happen here... right?
That movie was not supposed to be a "how to" guide for society.
Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president President Trump Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.
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I need to thank you because I haven’t cranked FI in awhile and wifey just left to drive kiddo somewhere, so it’s a good time for me to CRANK some Tool, but why are we posting Tempest here?
You mean "7empest"?
lyrically seems written to fuckstick.
Interesting. I've always pictured Tool as a down the middle band. Perhaps Maynard leans left, Jones to the right (interests like wrestling, MMA, etc), Justin not American and Danny seemingly the type to not give a F. Probably wrong.
I need to thank you because I haven’t cranked FI in awhile and wifey just left to drive kiddo somewhere, so it’s a good time for me to CRANK some Tool, but why are we posting Tempest here?
You mean "7empest"?
lyrically seems written to fuckstick.
Interesting. I've always pictured Tool as a down the middle band. Perhaps Maynard leans left, Jones to the right (interests like wrestling, MMA, etc), Justin not American and Danny seemingly the type to not give a F. Probably wrong.
lyrics seem observational and objective to me. rather than taking a stand one way or another.
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Haha! Perfect analogy of where we are today. And even weirder, half the country is good with our new moronic image. But only half- mustn't forget that!
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president President Trump Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.
It doesn’t change the fact that the title fits! You can take a sharpie and erase it but it doesn’t make it untrue or disappear! Enjoy your Golden Age or years what that is
Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president President Trump Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.
It doesn’t change the fact that the title fits! You can take a sharpie and erase it but it doesn’t make it untrue or disappear! Enjoy your Golden Age or years what that is
At least your fantasy can continue for several more years. You can still wake up hoping every day that Trump will be arrested and sentenced to prison! It’s a wonderful and fulfilling life I bet.
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This place is a fucking cesspool. Jesus Christ...
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Convicted Felon title will always be attached to him till he goes bye bye same with president President Trump Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
Yep, just like all the rape fantasies, Russian collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.
He was found civilly liable for rape. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that this did not happen, or that the two dozen women who've accused him of sexual assault are all lying, or that he was literally caught on tape bragging about groping women without their consent, but you should really be better than that.
He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.
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https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/donald-trump-voters-pennsylvania-economy-fascism-20241111.html
“It’s not hard to understand why voters reject the premise,” Pennsylvania GOP consultant Brock McCleary said. “The fair-minded voter looks at Trump’s first term and concludes that he’s either really bad at instituting fascism, or it’s just another empty moniker from Trump’s powerful enemies.”
In Scranton on Wednesday, Matt Wolfson, a 45-year-old former construction worker, looked around at poverty in the Rust Belt city and thought the nation needed a change in leadership.
Wolfson said he didn’t love the dictatorial aspect of Trump’s personality, but thought it could help keep the country out of wars and maybe bring peace to some other conflicts, including in Ukraine.
“He’s good and bad. People say he’s a dictator. I believe that. I consider him like Hitler,” Wolfson said. “But I voted for the man.”
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-mandate-myth-175155368.html
Donald Trump’s Mandate Is a Myth
Donald Trump and his allies have characterized the 2024 election as an overwhelming victory—and a mandate for shock politics, mass deportations, and the transformation of the country’s foreign and domestic policy. There’s just one problem: They didn’t actually win by much.
CNN’s Harry Enten reports that Trump is now under 50 percent for the popular vote, and his margin is the forty-fourth worst out of 51 presidential elections since 1824. Four Democrats won Senate seats in states that Trump won (Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada), compared to zero in the 2016 and 2020 elections. And while Republicans held on to their House majority, if results hold, their 221–214 margin will be the smallest majority in the 50-state era.
Trump’s appointments are not going to help with the House’s Republican majority, with many of Trump’s choices being elected GOP members. These include Representatives Elise Stefanik as his U.N. ambassador, Mike Waltz as his national security adviser, and Matt Gaetz (who has already resigned) as his attorney general, among others.
Republicans will point out that Trump in 2024 became the first GOP presidential candidate to win the popular vote since 2004 and the second since 1988, but he will arrive in office with a narrow majority in the Senate as well—just a three-seat majority if Democratic Senator Bob Casey loses his seat, which he looks likely to.
President Trump
Convicted Felon of the United States of America?
collusions, impeachments, insurrections and election interference.The TDS runs as wild as Hulkamania. Be amazing if one day he is sentenced to anything.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Interesting. I've always pictured Tool as a down the middle band. Perhaps Maynard leans left, Jones to the right (interests like wrestling, MMA, etc), Justin not American and Danny seemingly the type to not give a F. Probably wrong.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Haha! Perfect analogy of where we are today. And even weirder, half the country is good with our new moronic image. But only half- mustn't forget that!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
He was convicted in the one criminal case that went to trial. The documents case is as cut-and-dried as it gets. He, again, is on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to "find" the precise number of votes he needed to win a state to enable him to steal an election that he lost. All of these things happened. They are not fantasies. Pretending that they didn't is truly deranged.