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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Anyone get Lindsey Flimsey Flip Flop Faloozy’s comments about POOTWH saying Liz should be shot in the face? Anyone? Yea, the choice is so very difficult.

    Trump says ‘war hawk’ Liz Cheney should be fired upon in escalation of violent rhetoric against his opponents



    Don't see what the big problem is other can "create outrage", if you read the full quote:

    “She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”


    Didn't she support and defend the illegal war and the slaughter of innocent civilians in iraq? 

    She may well have and did but she’s also a former elected member of Congress living in a democracy being threatened by a former POS former POTUS who’s a crybaby loser. Did I wake up in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq? But let’s just dismiss it and normalize it, eh?
    he is not from here. he is applying a european thought process to an inferior american problem.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,567
    edited November 1
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Anyone get Lindsey Flimsey Flip Flop Faloozy’s comments about POOTWH saying Liz should be shot in the face? Anyone? Yea, the choice is so very difficult.

    Trump says ‘war hawk’ Liz Cheney should be fired upon in escalation of violent rhetoric against his opponents



    Don't see what the big problem is other can "create outrage", if you read the full quote:

    “She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”


    Didn't she support and defend the illegal war and the slaughter of innocent civilians in iraq? 

    She may well have and did but she’s also a former elected member of Congress living in a democracy being threatened by a former POS former POTUS who’s a crybaby loser. Did I wake up in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq? But let’s just dismiss it and normalize it, eh?
    He doesn't threaten her? He's saying in a trumpain way "How would she feel like it, to be on the other end of what she herself support?" Are you really unable to you see that?

    Or are you just helping signal boosting created outrage? Maybe out of ignorance, if you are unable to read a quote.

    Or if something else but what you linked was said, and I don't have the full context.

    And her being a part of congress and having political power makes her even a worse person of supporting illegal wars and warcrimes. It doesn't matter when saying "...and see how she'll like it"

    Not defending Trumps way of speaking. But come on.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,350
    2023
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Anyone get Lindsey Flimsey Flip Flop Faloozy’s comments about POOTWH saying Liz should be shot in the face? Anyone? Yea, the choice is so very difficult.

    Trump says ‘war hawk’ Liz Cheney should be fired upon in escalation of violent rhetoric against his opponents



    Don't see what the big problem is other can "create outrage", if you read the full quote:

    “She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”


    Didn't she support and defend the illegal war and the slaughter of innocent civilians in iraq? 

    She may well have and did but she’s also a former elected member of Congress living in a democracy being threatened by a former POS former POTUS who’s a crybaby loser. Did I wake up in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq? But let’s just dismiss it and normalize it, eh?
    he is not from here. he is applying a european thought process to an inferior american problem.
    Oh I know he’s from Sweden but regardless, violent rhetoric against your opponents has a way of motivating and inspiring your supporters AND your opponents’ supporters. No one should be shocked or faux raged if it boomerangs. 
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,716
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    There’s absolutely zero evidence that Trump opposed the Iraq invasion. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,586
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    There’s absolutely zero evidence that Trump opposed the Iraq invasion. 
    Was it Howard Stern who asked him at the time, and he begrudgingly approved? Something to the effect of "yeah, I guess". 

    Sure, he wasn't leading the charge, but he sure as shit didn't oppose it. 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    There’s absolutely zero evidence that Trump opposed the Iraq invasion. 
    the only evidence we have is that he began saying he opposed it in 2015. my bet is he had stock in those defense companies that made him money, so he didn't really oppose it.

    it is super easy to come out against something 12 years after the fact.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,567
    edited November 1
    I don't know what his opinion of the war in 2003 has to do with this discussion.

    But anyways, eye on price -- TIM WALZ ON THEO VON, ROGAN, MARC MARON AND PLAYING MORE DREAMCAST WITH AOC
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,350
    2023
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't know what his opinion of the war in 2003 has to do with this discussion.

    But anyways, eye on price -- TIM WALZ ON THEO VON, ROGAN, MARC MARON AND PLAYING MORE DREAMCAST WITH AOC
    2001 was Afghanistan. The US invaded Iraq in 2003. Obama pulled troops out in 2011 after the Shrub administration signed a treaty committing the US to withdrawing their forces. Barry called his bluff with an election year looming, POOTWH praised Obama for his actions, correct, and POOTWH pulled the same stunt with Brandon and Brandon called POOTWH’s bluff.

    Moral of the story? Don’t make treaties you have no intention of keeping, don’t play fucking games with US military personnel and certainly don’t start unnecessary fucking wars under false pretences. Something Sweden probably doesn’t have a lot of experience in, eh?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I don't know what his opinion of the war in 2003 has to do with this discussion.

    But anyways, eye on price -- TIM WALZ ON THEO VON, ROGAN, MARC MARON AND PLAYING MORE DREAMCAST WITH AOC
    Because they’re trying to pretend there’s some sort of empathy in their platform by  disengenuinely referencing what the military experiences. 
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,630
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Anyone get Lindsey Flimsey Flip Flop Faloozy’s comments about POOTWH saying Liz should be shot in the face? Anyone? Yea, the choice is so very difficult.

    Trump says ‘war hawk’ Liz Cheney should be fired upon in escalation of violent rhetoric against his opponents



    Don't see what the big problem is other can "create outrage", if you read the full quote:

    “She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”


    Didn't she support and defend the illegal war and the slaughter of innocent civilians in iraq? 

    She may well have and did but she’s also a former elected member of Congress living in a democracy being threatened by a former POS former POTUS who’s a crybaby loser. Did I wake up in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq? But let’s just dismiss it and normalize it, eh?
    He doesn't threaten her? He's saying in a trumpain way "How would she feel like it, to be on the other end of what she herself support?" Are you really unable to you see that?

    Or are you just helping signal boosting created outrage? Maybe out of ignorance, if you are unable to read a quote.

    Or if something else but what you linked was said, and I don't have the full context.

    And her being a part of congress and having political power makes her even a worse person of supporting illegal wars and warcrimes. It doesn't matter when saying "...and see how she'll like it"

    Not defending Trumps way of speaking. But come on.
    Donald Trump ordered the killing of people who were designated as terrorists by the United States government. His statements about Liz Cheney are hypocritical even if there is plenty of room to criticize her for her support for the "war on terror."
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,630
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    There’s absolutely zero evidence that Trump opposed the Iraq invasion. 
    Zero credible evidence. The fact that he says he opposed it is evidence. It's just not credible.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,171
    Merkin Baller said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    There’s absolutely zero evidence that Trump opposed the Iraq invasion. 
    Was it Howard Stern who asked him at the time, and he begrudgingly approved? Something to the effect of "yeah, I guess". 

    Sure, he wasn't leading the charge, but he sure as shit didn't oppose it. 
    Being Pearl Jam fans, we all know the level of pushback on the war from famous people was very minimal. This is just revisionist history on the subject from the right. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    BF25394 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    There’s absolutely zero evidence that Trump opposed the Iraq invasion. 
    Zero credible evidence. The fact that he says he opposed it is evidence. It's just not credible.
    All the evidence you need is that if the lips are moving nothing but lies are coming out.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    2023
    what do you call someone that actually suggests using firing squads on their political opponents?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,567
    edited November 1
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what do you call someone that actually suggests using firing squads on their political opponents?
    Wait. Maybe I misunderstood. Is the "nine barrels" referencing a firing squad shooting Liz?

    I tread it as him painting the picture of her having to go to war like other american kids have had to.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • KatKat Posts: 4,878
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what do you call someone that actually suggests using firing squads on their political opponents?
    Insane.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,283
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what do you call someone that actually suggests using firing squads on their political opponents?
    Wait. Maybe I misunderstood. Is the "nine barrels" referencing a firing squad shooting Liz?

    I tread it as him painting the picture of her having to go to war like other american kids have had to.

    fwiw, my take as well after reading the transcript of that particular exchange.
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,630
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what do you call someone that actually suggests using firing squads on their political opponents?
    Wait. Maybe I misunderstood. Is the "nine barrels" referencing a firing squad shooting Liz?

    I tread it as him painting the picture of her having to go to war like other american kids have had to.

    fwiw, my take as well after reading the transcript of that particular exchange.
    Yes, that's what I understood it to mean, too. It's ironic, because Trump used his family connections to avoid going to war, and it's hypocritical, because Trump himself made life-and-death war decisions from the safety of the White House.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what do you call someone that actually suggests using firing squads on their political opponents?
    What do you call someone who supports that person?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,918
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    BF25394 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what do you call someone that actually suggests using firing squads on their political opponents?
    Wait. Maybe I misunderstood. Is the "nine barrels" referencing a firing squad shooting Liz?

    I tread it as him painting the picture of her having to go to war like other american kids have had to.

    fwiw, my take as well after reading the transcript of that particular exchange.
    Yes, that's what I understood it to mean, too. It's ironic, because Trump used his family connections to avoid going to war, and it's hypocritical, because Trump himself made life-and-death war decisions from the safety of the White House.
    No way I read it as her facing a firing squad! 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,918
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    https://www.threads.net/@beingliberal/post/DB3J6pBA_jY?xmt=AQGzJ8L35Kz3_u6uvXKMweWEdJ0Pk-blIj-Mif1p3PI-Gg
    Here is your Republican candidate giving lessons on hummers! What an ugly human 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    2023
    Oh yeah....THIS is how you end a campaign


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,350
    2023
    The Juggler said:
    Oh yeah....THIS is how you end a campaign


    No wonder his walk out music is YMCA. NTTIAWWT. Starting to think he’s closeted. Would explain the macho approach to women and the over compensating. Again, NTTIAWWT.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,821
    The Juggler said:
    Oh yeah....THIS is how you end a campaign


    There's something seriously personal between Trump and Drudge.  I would love to know what it is, but these headlines are brutal, even for Drudge. 
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,220
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    The Greek
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    we know. we already know.....



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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,773
    A real test of how much of an empty vessel can win a Presidential election so long as they're running against Donald Trump 

    https://x.com/KFILE/status/1852438503331934365


  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,630
    josevolution said:
    BF25394 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    what do you call someone that actually suggests using firing squads on their political opponents?
    Wait. Maybe I misunderstood. Is the "nine barrels" referencing a firing squad shooting Liz?

    I tread it as him painting the picture of her having to go to war like other american kids have had to.

    fwiw, my take as well after reading the transcript of that particular exchange.
    Yes, that's what I understood it to mean, too. It's ironic, because Trump used his family connections to avoid going to war, and it's hypocritical, because Trump himself made life-and-death war decisions from the safety of the White House.
    No way I read it as her facing a firing squad! 
    Did you actually mean to say: "No way! I read it as her facing a firing squad!"?


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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,630
    mickeyrat said:



    My takeaway from this is that Trump is our most criminally inclined president and Grover Cleveland is our least criminally inclined president. Two separate administrations and no indictments! Way to go, Steve Cleveland!
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