Just some data for those of us still holding out for a Spring leg. If we're sticking with April/May as a time-frame (Krist's blog, Apollo line rumor, etc.), here's where the boys stand with Josh K. as the factor.
If Josh is touring with Iggy & the Losers, then the open dates for PJ would be the following:
Sat. April 1st - Tue. April 18th
Mon. May 1st - early June
This is because The Losers have dates from April 20th to April 29th. If Josh is playing with both bands (and giving him a day to relax between them lol), then this is what you're left with.
If Josh was just a one-off for the Kimmel performance last week, then he & the boys are available all through April & May. BUT...
If Josh, Andrew Watt & Chad are plotting with Ed for some Earthlings dates, then all of a sudden this looks like 2008 again. A bunch of Ed solo dates, some PJ in the summer, and more Ed in the fall. I think it's going to be a mix of 2008, 2016, and last year. A little Ed here, a little PJ there. Rinse & repeat. So, here are the open dates for Pearl Jam AND the Earthlings, if that's the route they go with.
PJ: Sat. April 1st - Tue. April 18th is possible (give, or take Mar. 30th & 31st)
Iggy & The Losers: Thu. April 20th - Sat. April 29th (confirmed)
PJ: Mon. May 1st - Thu. May 25th is possible
Earthlings: Sat. May 27th - Thu. June 15th is possible
PJ: most likely on break unless they book a festival, or a ballpark
Earthlings: Tue. July 25th - Sun. Aug. 6th is possible (Glen & Markéta's tour starts on 08/08/23 at the Ryman)
PJ: Tue. Aug. 8th - rest of the year is possible
Swell Season (Glen & Markéta): Tue. Aug. 8th - Sun. Aug. 27th (confirmed)
Earthlings: Tue. Aug 29th - rest of the year is possible (including Ohana in September)
Data!
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PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
May-June would make more sense with most of the playoffs being done in the arenas. I like the sound of that
I'd be down with that. That would be more of a 2008 vibe, with a mix of outdoor & indoor venues. I just want another Hartford date, lol. Don't care when.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
I was listening to the 2021 bootlegs the first one of 4 and they said they wanted to Gigaton "inside joke " clearly on The bootleg cd you can hear the little story, so I think that's what's going to happen very soon there going to tour or a Gigaton of shows
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I was listening to the 2021 bootlegs the first one of 4 and they said they wanted to Gigaton "inside joke " clearly on The bootleg cd you can hear thd little story, so I think that's what's going to happen very soon there going to tour or a Gigaton of shows
And that brings us back to 2016. I had tickets for Tampa & MSG. Despite being out for 2 1/2 years, Lightning Bolt was still "new" to me lol. So, that's why I keep going back to that tour as a template.
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PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
I was listening to the 2021 bootlegs the first one of 4 and they said they wanted to Gigaton "inside joke " clearly on The bootleg cd you can hear thd little story, so I think that's what's going to happen very soon there going to tour or a Gigaton of shows
And that brings us back to 2016. I had tickets for Tampa & MSG. Despite being out for 2 1/2 years, Lightning Bolt was still "new" to me lol. So, that's why I keep going back to that tour as a template.
Just some data for those of us still holding out for a
Spring leg. If we're sticking with April/May as a time-frame (Krist's
blog, Apollo line rumor, etc.), here's where the boys stand with Josh K.
as the factor.
If Josh is touring with Iggy & the Losers, then the open dates for PJ would be the following:
Sat. April 1st - Tue. April 18th
Mon. May 1st - early June
This
is because The Losers have dates from April 20th to April 29th. If Josh
is playing with both bands (and giving him a day to relax between them
lol), then this is what you're left with.
If Josh was just a one-off for the Kimmel performance last week, then he & the boys are available all through April & May. BUT...
If
Josh, Andrew Watt & Chad are plotting with Ed for some Earthlings
dates, then all of a sudden this looks like 2008 again. A bunch of Ed
solo dates, some PJ in the summer, and more Ed in the fall. I think it's
going to be a mix of 2008, 2016, and last year. A little Ed here, a
little PJ there. Rinse & repeat. So, here are the open dates for
Pearl Jam AND the Earthlings, if that's the route they go with.
PJ: Sat. April 1st - Tue. April 18th is possible (give, or take Mar. 30th & 31st)
Iggy & The Losers: Thu. April 20th - Sat. April 29th (confirmed)
PJ: Mon. May 1st - Thu. May 25th is possible
Earthlings: Sat. May 27th - Thu. June 15th is possible
PJ: most likely on break unless they book a festival, or a ballpark
Earthlings: Tue. July 25th - Sun. Aug. 6th is possible (Glen & Markéta's tour starts on 08/08/23 at the Ryman)
PJ: Tue. Aug. 8th - rest of the year is possible
Swell Season (Glen & Markéta): Tue. Aug. 8th - Sun. Aug. 27th (confirmed)
Earthlings: Tue. Aug 29th - rest of the year is possible (including Ohana in September)
Data!
More data!
With Ohana conformed for Sept. 29th - Oct. 1st, I'm
focusing my Leg 2/September research around it. I'm thinking Ohana,
then if the ACL thing comes true, then we'll have that as a possible end
date.
October/November isn't out of the realm of
possibility, but the last time they played that late in the year was
2014 in the US, and 2015 in South America.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Josh will be unavailable for PJ during all current and future Jane's Addiction shows
Thanks for the heads up, @Weston128! (from the rumor thread)
With this in mind, if Josh is still in the mix with all parties, here's his schedule:
03/07 - Rialto Theatre - Tuscon, AZ (Jane's)
03/09 - Hollywood Palladium - Hollywood, CA (Jane's)
03/11 - Grand Sierra - Reno, NV (Jane's)
03/12 - The Cosmopolitan - Las Vegas, NV (Jane's)
03/18 - Lollapalooza Argentina (Jane's)
03/19 - Lollapalooza Chile (Jane's)
03/25 - Lollapalooza Brazil (Jane's)
I think this is notable, because I think it finally confirms that Josh won't be touring with Iggy & the Losers. And like @PJNB pointed out, depending on when these international dates are, I don't think PJ will be affected. They'll work it out.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Josh will be unavailable for PJ during all current and future Jane's Addiction shows
Thanks for the heads up, @Weston128! (from the rumor thread)
With this in mind, if Josh is still in the mix with all parties, here's his schedule:
03/07 - Rialto Theatre - Tuscon, AZ (Jane's)
03/09 - Hollywood Palladium - Hollywood, CA (Jane's)
03/11 - Grand Sierra - Reno, NV (Jane's)
03/12 - The Cosmopolitan - Las Vegas, NV (Jane's)
03/18 - Lollapalooza Argentina (Jane's)
03/19 - Lollapalooza Chile (Jane's)
03/25 - Lollapalooza Brazil (Jane's)
I think this is notable, because I think it finally confirms that Josh won't be touring with Iggy & the Losers. And like @PJNB pointed out, depending on when these international dates are, I don't think PJ will be affected. They'll work it out.
Hopefully "some additional international shows to be announced soon" doesn't fall under spring / summer dates.
Long thread that I didnt read all of, so apologies if this has been addressed. But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
Long thread that I didnt read all of, so apologies if this has been addressed. But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
Because if you had to choose which band to play in. Pearl Jam or Janes Addiction, which one would you choose? If PJ was planning on touring, I have to image he'd make the same choice I would
Long thread that I didnt read all of, so apologies if this has been addressed. But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
It is assumed because it is the name logic that is used when some fans state that EV won't do any touring during the Fall months due to the CUBS playing in the MLB postseason. It is nonsensical.
Long thread that I didnt read all of, so apologies if this has been addressed. But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
Because if you had to choose which band to play in. Pearl Jam or Janes Addiction, which one would you choose? If PJ was planning on touring, I have to image he'd make the same choice I would
Do not go see Jane’s Addiction. Buddy spent $300 on two tickets in Tempe a few years back and they played 58 mins. That’s it. Gtfoh
Chicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/16
Long thread that I didnt read all of, so apologies if this has been addressed. But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
Because if you had to choose which band to play in. Pearl Jam or Janes Addiction, which one would you choose? If PJ was planning on touring, I have to image he'd make the same choice I would
Do not go see Jane’s Addiction. Buddy spent $300 on two tickets in Tempe a few years back and they played 58 mins. That’s it. Gtfoh
I saw them open for the Smashing Pumpkins a few months ago in Vancouver. They worked as an opener, because your supposed to play a shorter set, it means less filler, and you leaving the bigger set the headliner. They were ok, which is pretty much as they've been every time I saw them.
At Lolla 2003 in Auburn, WA, Audioslave played before Janes' Addiction closed. Not a great idea to have a high energy band play before a lower energy band... the whole crowd kind of deflated
Long thread that I didnt read all of, so apologies if this has been addressed. But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
Because if you had to choose which band to play in. Pearl Jam or Janes Addiction, which one would you choose? If PJ was planning on touring, I have to image he'd make the same choice I would
Do not go see Jane’s Addiction. Buddy spent $300 on two tickets in Tempe a few years back and they played 58 mins. That’s it. Gtfoh
I saw them open for the Smashing Pumpkins a few months ago in Vancouver. They worked as an opener, because your supposed to play a shorter set, it means less filler, and you leaving the bigger set the headliner. They were ok, which is pretty much as they've been every time I saw them.
At Lolla 2003 in Auburn, WA, Audioslave played before Janes' Addiction closed. Not a great idea to have a high energy band play before a lower energy band... the whole crowd kind of deflated
This show, they were the headliner. 58 mins. Ive heard of better shows at the county fair
Chicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/16
Long thread that I didnt read all of, so apologies if this has been addressed. But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
It is assumed because it is the name logic that is used when some fans state that EV won't do any touring during the Fall months due to the CUBS playing in the MLB postseason. It is nonsensical.
Yeah, I didn't see adding Josh as a permanent thing. Maybe it turns out to be, but they are very capable of playing without him. I don't think his availability will weigh heavily on any decisions. I sort of assume that with Boom as well. They tell him what dates they are playing, and he clears his calendar. If he can't, they'll play without him. They're not going to check his grandson's little league schedule and work around that.
Long thread that I didnt read all of, so apologies if this has been addressed. But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
It is assumed because it is the name logic that is used when some fans state that EV won't do any touring during the Fall months due to the CUBS playing in the MLB postseason. It is nonsensical.
Yeah, I didn't see adding Josh as a permanent thing. Maybe it turns out to be, but they are very capable of playing without him. I don't think his availability will weigh heavily on any decisions. I sort of assume that with Boom as well. They tell him what dates they are playing, and he clears his calendar. If he can't, they'll play without him. They're not going to check his grandson's little league schedule and work around that.
No one is saying they are moving things around for Josh. People are saying Josh is able to do other things because Pearl Jam is not touring.
Long thread that I didnt read all of, so apologies if this has been addressed. But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
It is assumed because it is the name logic that is used when some fans state that EV won't do any touring during the Fall months due to the CUBS playing in the MLB postseason. It is nonsensical.
Yeah, I didn't see adding Josh as a permanent thing. Maybe it turns out to be, but they are very capable of playing without him. I don't think his availability will weigh heavily on any decisions. I sort of assume that with Boom as well. They tell him what dates they are playing, and he clears his calendar. If he can't, they'll play without him. They're not going to check his grandson's little league schedule and work around that.
No one is saying they are moving things around for Josh. People are saying Josh is able to do other things because Pearl Jam is not touring.
I thought I saw some also implying PJ wont do certain dates because Josh is not available.
Long thread that I didnt read all of, so apologies if this has been addressed. But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
It is assumed because it is the name logic that is used when some fans state that EV won't do any touring during the Fall months due to the CUBS playing in the MLB postseason. It is nonsensical.
Yeah, I didn't see adding Josh as a permanent thing. Maybe it turns out to be, but they are very capable of playing without him. I don't think his availability will weigh heavily on any decisions. I sort of assume that with Boom as well. They tell him what dates they are playing, and he clears his calendar. If he can't, they'll play without him. They're not going to check his grandson's little league schedule and work around that.
No one is saying they are moving things around for Josh. People are saying Josh is able to do other things because Pearl Jam is not touring.
This. Josh can do what he wants because there are no PJ dates planned. ACL would not surprise me because of the payday and that would be great because it usually means a few dates around the festival. They just played in September. That usually means years before more dates. Hope I am wrong.
I know everyone speculates and loves to hope but the odds of them touring in 2023 don’t look good to me based on their history. 2022 they played their most shows in a year since 2009 but that was 13 years prior (and younger). Since then
might play some randoms and hope they tour but they might be off for another year (at least)
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Chicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/16
I know everyone speculates and loves to hope but the odds of them touring in 2023 don’t look good to me based on their history. 2022 they played their most shows in a year since 2009 but that was 13 years prior (and younger). Since then
might play some randoms and hope they tour but they might be off for another year (at least)
That is correct except you are missing the 2021 shows. Hopefully they are working on a record because a record means more shows. There is still hope for 2023 as the festival paydays are huge and ACL in October would be a year after the last shows. I am not expecting 2023 shows, but it would be nice if there were!
I know everyone speculates and loves to hope but the odds of them touring in 2023 don’t look good to me based on their history. 2022 they played their most shows in a year since 2009 but that was 13 years prior (and younger). Since then
might play some randoms and hope they tour but they might be off for another year (at least)
That is correct except you are missing the 2021 shows. Hopefully they are working on a record because a record means more shows. There is still hope for 2023 as the festival paydays are huge and ACL in October would be a year after the last shows. I am not expecting 2023 shows, but it would be nice if there were!
I mixed up 2019 and 2021 which proves my point more. I’ll adjust
Chicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/16
They went on a span of over 3 years with no shows recently. Looking at what has been a normal touring pattern the last handful of years is probably not going to be helpful guessing if they are going to play this year. On top of that they also released an album and have yet to hit a lot of major markets since then. 2 of those cities have been mentioned in the rumour thread. Seattle has to be in that mix as well if they are playing this year.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27& 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
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I hope there will be shows in 2023.
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
PJ Cuyahoga Flalls OH 8/26/1998
PJ Noblesviile IN 8/18/2000
PJ Cincinnatti OH 8/20/2000
PJ Columbus OH 8/21/2000
PJ Columbus OH 6/24/2003
PJ Hamilton Ontario 9/13/2005
PJ Phiadelphia PA 10/3/2005
PJ Cleveland OH 5/20/2006
PJ Columbia SC 6/16/2008.....
e.V Chicago IL 8/21/2008
e.V Philly PA 6/11/2009
e.V Bailtimore MD 6/14/2009...
PJ Chicago IL 8/23/2009
.PJ...Philly PA 10/27/2009 PJ.Philadephia PA 10/28/2009.
PJ Columbus OH 5/6/2010
PJ Cleveland OH 5/9/2010.
BRAD Columbus OH 10/5/2010
e.V St.Louis MO 7/1/2011
.PJ.. East Troy WI 9/3/2011..PJ..East Troy WI 9/4/2011
Neil Young & Crazy Horse Cleveland OH 10/8/2012
RNDM Chicago IL11/13/2012
Alice In Chains/SoundGarden Columbus OH 5/19/2013
AIC Fort Wayne IN 5/21/2013
PJ Pittsburgh PA 10/11/2013
AIC Cincinnati OH 5/17/2014
AIC Cleveland OH 5/19/2014
AIC Indianapolis IN 8/19/2014
PJ Cincinnati OH 10/1/2014
AIC Cincinnati OH 8/06/2015
RNDM Chicago IL 3/15/2016
PJ Columbia SC 4\21\2016
PJ Lexington KY 4/26/2016
PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2016
Soundgarden Columbus OH 5/20/2017 Canceled RIP Chris
AIC Columbus OH 5/18/2018
PJ Chicago IL 8/18/2018 PJ Chicago IL 8/20/2018
PJ St Louis Missouri 9/18/2022
AIC Cuyohoga falls Oh. 8/16/2019
SHAWNSMITH Rip 2019Mark Lanegan Band 5/18/19
And that brings us back to 2016. I had tickets for Tampa & MSG. Despite being out for 2 1/2 years, Lightning Bolt was still "new" to me lol. So, that's why I keep going back to that tour as a template.
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Good template man.
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
- 03/07 - Rialto Theatre - Tuscon, AZ (Jane's)
- 03/09 - Hollywood Palladium - Hollywood, CA (Jane's)
- 03/11 - Grand Sierra - Reno, NV (Jane's)
- 03/12 - The Cosmopolitan - Las Vegas, NV (Jane's)
- 03/18 - Lollapalooza Argentina (Jane's)
- 03/19 - Lollapalooza Chile (Jane's)
- 03/25 - Lollapalooza Brazil (Jane's)
I think this is notable, because I think it finally confirms that Josh won't be touring with Iggy & the Losers. And like @PJNB pointed out, depending on when these international dates are, I don't think PJ will be affected. They'll work it out.Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
2016: Ottawa
2018: Wrigley 1 & 2
2022: Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023: Innings Fest (EV), Ft Worth 1 & 2, Austin 1 & 2
2024: Seattle 1 & 2
But why are we assuming PJ dates where Josh is busy wont happen? They played 30 years without him and a few shows with him. It didn't even cross my mind they he would be a shoe-in for the next tour.
At Lolla 2003 in Auburn, WA, Audioslave played before Janes' Addiction closed. Not a great idea to have a high energy band play before a lower energy band... the whole crowd kind of deflated
This. Josh can do what he wants because there are no PJ dates planned. ACL would not surprise me because of the payday and that would be great because it usually means a few dates around the festival. They just played in September. That usually means years before more dates. Hope I am wrong.
2015: 11
2016: 25 shows
2017: 1
2018: 26 shows
2019: 0
2022: 33 shows
2023: ?
might play some randoms and hope they tour but they might be off for another year (at least)
I think they hit some missed markets this year and either take next year off touring North America or hit it big with a new album.
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Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control (BAM!), Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), Whale Song (DOUBLE BAM!), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.