I think something's going on with the band they used to start the shows pretty much right at 8:30 they're taking almost an hour after the opening band which seems odd I first got the sense that something was off at Ohana when they took almost an hour to come out and then only played for 2 hours because of the curfew same thing in Europe right now not much variety on the set list so much material not getting played and then throw in Sacramento in Vegas being cancelled as opposed to being rescheduled after Denver just seems like something's not quite right
Maybe just a thought, but perhaps they wanted to cut down the amount of rehearsal time?
Travel and PJ are like my two favorite hobbies, and I absolutely love to combine them. I've been blessed to see them all over the world and will continue to do so, but if this does become the new normal, I will be much much more picky on where I go and the amount of shows will certainly go down. I'll want to be sure I'm only going to places I really want to go or have never been to before and PJ being there will be the added bonus vs. the reason to go.
I've been patiently waiting for years to plan a once in a lifetime type trip to Australia hoping to see the country and see a few shows while I go. I admit I'm not currently as excited for that as I was a few years ago, but I still want to see Australia so I'll make it happen, but my days of planning my trips completely around PJ might be coming to an end.
I pretty much only travel to cities I haven't been to before, so I'll continue to use concerts as that excuse. I'll probably travel more for MMJ and Ween in the future though.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
What is kind of funny is that some of us used to avoid festivals because of the shorter setlist. Now the regular shows are the same length, so I am checking who else is on the bill to maybe make it worthwhile.
Living in Alabama, I have always had to travel somewhat far to see them. I’ve been to 14 shows and would always make a list of some rarities that I wanted to hear at the shows I picked to attend. Not sure if that list will get any marked off this time around and that’s okay-been a great run. On the flip side, my 13 year old will know a bunch of songs when he sees his first show in Nashville. I can handle that trade-off. I will go to at least one show a US tour until they decide to hang it up.
Between the much higher probability of cancellation and having the same 15 same staple songs I will probably do less traveling for PJ shows. I don’t need drive more than a couple hours to hear Betterman, Jeremy, etc 4 shows per tour. Especially, with little chance of ever hearing the songs I love such as: Blood, Grievance, Save You, STBC, Rearviewmirror, Habit, Of the Earth and so on.
Travelling to see PJ shows has resulted in my wife and I exploring places/countries we may have never visited. Slovenia (Ljubljana and Lake Bled) after the Trieste show for instance. In fact, we probably never even visit Trieste without PJ (another amazing place). Or stopping in Mendoza, Argentina and staying at a winery in between the Santiago and Buenos Aires shows in 2015.
The key for us isn’t travelling only to see PJ. It’s wrapping and planning the vacation around three (usually) PJ shows. Its relaxed and always a blast. Some of my favourite memories are those vacations.
Hell, I’m off to London in a couple weeks!
You hit it on the head as far as the way my wife and i look at it. Now we have only been to USA and of course Canada so far. We were going to do some West coast shows this year. But unfortunately the wife had started a new job and only been there a month. So don't think she was going to get time off. We are now in current talks to make our next adventure to europe somewhere next time they go back. We hoping they go back next year, fingers crossed. But it is fun exploring new places.
2005 - London
2009 - Toronto
2010 - Buffalo
2011 - Toronto 1&2
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014 - Cincinnati, St. Louis, Detroit
2016 - Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Ottawa, Toronto 1 2018 - Fenway 1&2 2022 - Hamilton, Toronto 2023 - Chicago 1&2 2024 - Las Vegas 1&2
Travel and PJ are like my two favorite hobbies, and I absolutely love to combine them. I've been blessed to see them all over the world and will continue to do so, but if this does become the new normal, I will be much much more picky on where I go and the amount of shows will certainly go down. I'll want to be sure I'm only going to places I really want to go or have never been to before and PJ being there will be the added bonus vs. the reason to go.
I've been patiently waiting for years to plan a once in a lifetime type trip to Australia hoping to see the country and see a few shows while I go. I admit I'm not currently as excited for that as I was a few years ago, but I still want to see Australia so I'll make it happen, but my days of planning my trips completely around PJ might be coming to an end.
If not for a U2 tour in 2010 I probably would still be waiting to see Australia.. but then came Springsteen tours in 2013,14, and 17.... so seeing live music there is a Great reason to go! And now waiting for PJ so I can return!
Great point. I can’t help feeling disappointed with the lack of variety in the sets. I did always love that more acoustic part of the first encore. But you never know when your last show might be so live in the moment and enjoy it as much as you can whatever they play.
It will be 13 YEARS since the band came to Cleveland. Getting very expen$ive & time consuming (we do have real jobs) to travel to see the band. In the past we have traveled 8 times since 1991 and seen 7 performances here. You need to take out a loan to travel to see P.J. With the setlist, time onstage cuts, weak new studio material, they are becoming "just another touring band".
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10-26-91 Cleveland
4-2-92
7-29-92
5-4-95 Hovercraft / Cleveland
8-26-98
4-25-03
5-20-06
8-21-08 E.V. Chicago
10-31-09 Philadelphia
5-09-10 Cleveland
5-10-10 Buffalo
6-26-11 E.V. Detroit
10-11-13 Pittsburgh
10-12-13 Buffalo
10-29-13 Charlottesville
4-18-16 Hampton
8-22-16 Chicago
I'll be hitting Minnesota when they play there next. @vant0037
Yessss looking forward to it!
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2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2 2018-06-18 London 1 2018-08-18 Wrigley 1 2018-08-20 Wrigley 2 2022-09-16 Nashville 2023-08-31 St. Paul 2023-09-02 St. Paul 2023-09-05 Chicago 1 2024-08-31 Wrigley 2 2024-09-15 Fenway 1 2024-09-27 Ohana 1 2024-09-29 Ohana 2
I read this and thought “crap” because we are flying Lufthansa from Chicago to London on July 6th. I read the link and it clarified that the flights affected would be on the weekends, we are flying on a Wednesday. Phew, I can exhale again.
I will to a stadium show if that ever happens again. Only because we would get more songs, I would think. But I'm out for arenas if this is the new norm. I went to my home town show in San Diego and both LA shows. They were awesome. But those three shows covered their current catalogue, so I'm good. I actual have Nashville all lined up and paid for. Hotel, flights, tickets. Told the wife the other day unless there is a change I'm cancelling the trip. No need to drop a few thousand to see a repeat set list and a shortend show. I could easily predict 75% of the set list, thats not good enough for me to justify the $ spent.
I would add a third option “Yes, but much less than I used to”
If I can drive there in a few hours, I will always go.
There are also some situations, like Nashville on a Friday, that give me a reason to travel for more than just PJ. In these instances, I’ll likely go.
Taking multiple days off of work, flying to cities mid week on the opposite coast and spending thousands of dollars on hotels and flights, is what’s going to be cut out for me.
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2023 definitely no trips to SA or Australia for me.
When they return to NA I would travel to Seattle or Chicago and then the closest show to where I live.
I've been patiently waiting for years to plan a once in a lifetime type trip to Australia hoping to see the country and see a few shows while I go. I admit I'm not currently as excited for that as I was a few years ago, but I still want to see Australia so I'll make it happen, but my days of planning my trips completely around PJ might be coming to an end.
98' - 6/26, 6/27, 6/29, 8/26, 9/22
03' - 4/25
06' - 6/29, 6/30
07' - 8/05
09' - 8/23
11' - 9/03, 9/04
12' - 9/30
13' - 7/16, 7/19, 10/21, 10/22, 11/15, 11/16, 12/06
14' - 06/28, 06/29, 10/1, 10/03, 10/16, 10/17, 10/20, 10/22
15' - 11/20, 11/22
16' - 4/21, 4/26, 4/28, 4/29, 5/1, 5/2, 7/9, 8/5, 8/7, 8/20, 8/22
17' - 4/7
18' - 7/1, 7/3, 7/5, 8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20, 9/4
21' - 10/1, 10/2
22' - 7/12, 7/14, 9/6, 9/8
Got a friend that lives in Oslo so i can always make an excuse to go see her and add PJ to the list
"I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine"
2009 - Toronto
2010 - Buffalo
2011 - Toronto 1&2
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014 - Cincinnati, St. Louis, Detroit
2016 - Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Ottawa, Toronto 1
2018 - Fenway 1&2
2022 - Hamilton, Toronto
2023 - Chicago 1&2
2024 - Las Vegas 1&2
astoria 06
albany 06
hartford 06
reading 06
barcelona 06
paris 06
wembley 07
dusseldorf 07
nijmegen 07
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
Getting very expen$ive & time consuming (we do have real jobs) to travel to see the band.
In the past we have traveled 8 times since 1991 and seen 7 performances here.
You need to take out a loan to travel to see P.J.
With the setlist, time onstage cuts, weak new studio material, they are becoming "just another touring band".
4-2-92
7-29-92
5-4-95 Hovercraft / Cleveland
8-26-98
4-25-03
5-20-06
8-21-08 E.V. Chicago
10-31-09 Philadelphia
5-09-10 Cleveland
5-10-10 Buffalo
6-26-11 E.V. Detroit
10-11-13 Pittsburgh
10-12-13 Buffalo
10-29-13 Charlottesville
4-18-16 Hampton
8-22-16 Chicago
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
2018-06-18 London 1
2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
2022-09-16 Nashville
2023-08-31 St. Paul
2023-09-02 St. Paul
2023-09-05 Chicago 1
2024-08-31 Wrigley 2
2024-09-15 Fenway 1
2024-09-27 Ohana 1
2024-09-29 Ohana 2
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