*** Pearl Jam Berlin, Germany Fanviews 6/21/22 ***

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  • lowbudgetlush
    lowbudgetlush Posts: 612
    I wasn’t there so I can’t complain. The set lengths are clearly what they are gonna be at this point. It is what it is. However, if I was there and Ledbetter got cut halfway through to go into alive I would have been pissed. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Untiltled-->MFC is probably my white whale at this point.

    Sounds like a strange end to the show.
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  • TheMookster
    TheMookster Posts: 101
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    The impression I got was that they were getting ready to do Alive but there was a delay with Stone getting his guitar ready and Ed was clearly anxious they were running out of time (I'm sure I heard him say at one point that they'd been told to finish by the time it got dark) so he asked Mike to start Ledbetter, then it seemed Ed wanted to make sure they got Alive in, so he prompted the band to wind up Ledbetter and start Alive. That bit definitely felt rushed but I guess the combination of having a support act and early finish time imposed on them had an effect. I thought they dealt with it pretty well under the circumstances and they didn't shortchange us on a great jam in Porch.
    Thought they were really great tonight though - Ed's voice was great and Mike's solos amazing and fantastic to have Matt back. Retrograde was brilliant - glad we got the Gigaton stuff, hope they do more.

    Edit: setlist photo on Instagram seems to confirm the original.plan was Alive then Ledbetter so I think Ed was just buying time for Stone to get his guitar ready. They scratched Better Man before Alive and they didn't take that long an encore break so they were obviously just up against it curfew-wise
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  • THEBIBLEISTEN
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  • DEGBTI
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  • stmccart
    stmccart Posts: 16
    edited June 2022
    I was flying solo for this show and I met some amazing people that hooked me up with a spot to sit / stand with their group of 3 as it was GA throughout.  My new friends, some German and some Austrian (ten club members) said it was a bummer to them to have traveled that far for a "short" show.  I was in heaven but agreed it did seem short.  How could it not after the crazy 35+ song shows of the past?  But I live in San Francisco and have seen them lots and lots over the last 25 years so I can understand the disappointment. The crowd was somewhat perplexed as a whole, I must say, at the length of the show.  Disbelief was pervasive for a few minutes.  Call the complainants  spoiled  - but that was the common conclusion from those that knew their PJ history.   A new day dawns, is all I can say.  My smile could not be wiped off my face no matter the disappointment of change being expressed around me; just a crowd wanting more.  Regardless, what a venue and what a crowd!  That you could hang out for a bit after the show and get a beer and food at the venue after the show was unlike anything I have ever experienced in the US.  Wow wow wow.  Such a different and better experience post show.  Time to talk to new friends and have them assist on how to get back to the hotel on the train.  Delayed 50th birthday trip, 2020...glad to finally meet you!  I had tears of joy and amazement running down my face under my sunglasses for the first half of the show.  I can't explain.  Just overwhelmed with good feelings - PJ got me again.  I needed that.  On to Zurich!
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  • TheMookster
    TheMookster Posts: 101
    stmccart said:
    I was flying solo for this show and I met some amazing people that hooked me up with a spot to sit with their group of 3 as it was GA throughout.  My new friends, some German and some Austrian (ten club members) said it was a bummer to them to have traveled that far for a "short" show.  I was in heaven, but I live in SF and have seen them lots and lots over the last 25 years.  The crowd was somewhat perplexed as a whole, I must say, at the length of the show.  Disbelief was pervasive for a few minutes.  Call them primadonnas - but that was the common conclusion from those that knew their history.   A new day dawns, is all I can say.  My smile could not be wiped off my face no matter how hard anyone tried, and they did not.  What a venue and what a crowd!  That you could hang out after the show and get a beer and food at the venue after the show was unlike anything I have every experienced in the US.  Wow wow wow.  Such a different and better experience post show.  Time to talk to new friends and figure out have them assist on how to get back to the hotel on the train.  50th birthday trip, 2020...you are doing just fine.  I had tears running down my face under my sunglasses for the first half of the show.  I can't explain. On to Zurich!
    this is great, and I know how you feel, just seeing them play, especially after the last couple of years, and with the whole band well and enjoying it, will never be lost on me, no matter how long they play for. cloud nine the moment Why go kicked in! 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,221
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Stop fucking complaining about 2 hour set lists. Enjoy what you have. 
    Stop constantly complaining about other people complaining 
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,126
    Only 2 hours. Yes we are spoiled.  The bar is high.  We prop them up to be so much more.  But yet they deliver. Every time.
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    JimmyV said:
    Untiltled-->MFC is probably my white whale at this point.

    Me too. 
  • Haijay
    Haijay Posts: 439
    Were these not both curfew shows so far? Hyde Park will be as well, so those will only be two hours, as the other festivals will be. Maybe the arena shows will be closer to the 2 1/2 mark. But if they aren’t, well, we’ll prob be alive in the morning
  • THEBIBLEISTEN
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  • JR86440
    JR86440 Posts: 753
    Band has earned right to do whatever they want. They are older. They sounded fucking amazing in Oakland. With that being said, it’s an end of an era and it kinda sucks because what set PJ apart from everybody was the 3 hour shows with varying set lists. 22 songs a night? I doubt I will be the only one that will cut down travel. I will still travel to see them but won’t be as much and will be much more selective. However, try to find a better show out there? Please don’t say Paul McCartney either. What Ed has to sing is MUCH harder than HeyJude..They are still the kings. They spoiled us, but if 33% reduction means they can play for another 10 years, I’m stoked for that 
  • cloudsnmars
    cloudsnmars Switzerland (for now) But from Aotearoa Posts: 113
    Fully understand them wanting to do shorter shows... I mean, 2hrs is pretty solid for a gig. But, if this is the norm.. would be great if they drop the covers and play all PJ tunes...doesn't make sense to do a Stones tune when the show is shorter than what we are used to..( and fans wanting to hear Black, Jeremy et al)
  • JR86440
    JR86440 Posts: 753
    cloudsnmars said:
    Fully understand them wanting to do shorter shows... I mean, 2hrs is pretty solid for a gig. But, if this is the norm.. would be great if they drop the covers and play all PJ tunes...doesn't make sense to do a Stones tune when the show is shorter than what we are used to..( and fans wanting to hear Black, Jeremy et al)
    Agreed. Never mind songs like Off He Goes. LBC. In Hiding. Go. Heck, I think RVM has only been played once. They have way too many great songs. No need for covers..
  • LizJ
    LizJ Posts: 361
    Fantastic show! Yesterday felt special. Such good energy. Band was in a good mood. Ed said that he was looking forward to playing this venue again, when he was at home and the shows were postponed. And you could tell that they really enjoyed it. Amazing crowd as well. We are going to sound great on the bootleg 😉. I was so happy for Roland and it was moving to see him and his family on stage. 
    The end felt a bit abrupt and you could sense the disbelief.
    On to Zurich  :). 


  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 3,131
    Thank you everyone for sharing your fanviews. :heart:

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  • Chrisilein
    Chrisilein Vienna/Austria Posts: 3,910
    I understand that there are mixed feelings about the new 2 hours sets but now that I'm 50 I have to accept that I can't do things that I did in my mid 30s! A stupid example but after drinking too much when I was 35 led to a half day hangover. Now it would take me 2 days to get on my feet again...
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  • SoenkeE
    SoenkeE Posts: 6
    Chrisilein said:
    I understand that there are mixed feelings about the new 2 hours sets but now that I'm 50 I have to accept that I can't do things that I did in my mid 30s! A stupid example but after drinking too much when I was 35 led to a half day hangover. Now it would take me 2 days to get on my feet again...
    Couldn't have said it better ! Of course I would love to see them do 2,5-3 hour gigs, but from my point of view this is not realistic. Once again they left  yesterdy everything they had on the stage during their gig. Cannot ask for more .... great show !
  • dannyfletcher
    dannyfletcher Posts: 122
    Possible shorter on these first two shows as they were outdoor and may have strict curfews?

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