*** BERLIN 2022 SETLIST THREAD ***

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  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,431
    Not a single 2021 or 2022 show rivals the worst show from 2003 to 2018 yet. I hope to see more shake ups in the sets like many others. Would love to see 24 to 27 songs but 20 and 22 with 15 staple song songs and 5 to 7 random songs just isn't worth the 15k dumped in to following the tour. Oh well
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,352
    Not a single 2021 or 2022 show rivals the worst show from 2003 to 2018 yet. I hope to see more shake ups in the sets like many others. Would love to see 24 to 27 songs but 20 and 22 with 15 staple song songs and 5 to 7 random songs just isn't worth the 15k dumped in to following the tour. Oh well
    It just seems like work now....show up and do what is required but no more than that. I hope we are overreacting. 
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    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,035
    Keep in mind at least 3 of them had Covid this year.  Months after the infection a lot of people are still fatigued from it.  And these guys are in their fifties which is on the cusp of the age when it takes longer to recover.  Jeff and Matt are only a few weeks out.  That they can play a two hour show already is pretty impressive.  It’s possible the shows will get longer as their recovery continues.  After years of no shows I’m certainly not going to complain that the shows are too short.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,352
    Keep in mind at least 3 of them had Covid this year.  Months after the infection a lot of people are still fatigued from it.  And these guys are in their fifties which is on the cusp of the age when it takes longer to recover.  Jeff and Matt are only a few weeks out.  That they can play a two hour show already is pretty impressive.  It’s possible the shows will get longer as their recovery continues.  After years of no shows I’m certainly not going to complain that the shows are too short.  
    Yeah but the 3 ohana shows were the same length... No covid 
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,035
    Keep in mind at least 3 of them had Covid this year.  Months after the infection a lot of people are still fatigued from it.  And these guys are in their fifties which is on the cusp of the age when it takes longer to recover.  Jeff and Matt are only a few weeks out.  That they can play a two hour show already is pretty impressive.  It’s possible the shows will get longer as their recovery continues.  After years of no shows I’m certainly not going to complain that the shows are too short.  
    Yeah but the 3 ohana shows were the same length... No covid 
    They were festivals though.  And they were great.  Especially the Encore Friday.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,024
    In reality, this is only affecting a very small percentage of their fans. The majority are walking away extremely satisfied.  So while I'm sure the band is aware of how their shows are changing, they are probably not overly concerned about it. 
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,459
    In reality, this is only affecting a very small percentage of their fans. The majority are walking away extremely satisfied.  So while I'm sure the band is aware of how their shows are changing, they are probably not overly concerned about it. 
    I guess we’ll see in time. In my experience, most of their live audience aren’t casual fans.  Sets like these will definitely result in less shows attended. 
  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,024
    edited June 2022
    Would be very interesting to see that breakdown. I still don't think they'll have any trouble selling out shows. I just think you'll have a lot less people attending multiple shows. With covid, I'm not sure how much, if any, press/media they are doing. But will be interesting to see if they are asked about it at some point. And how they would respond. It would be a legitimate question

    I'm holding out hope that they are easing into and and building up stamina. But it's looking more and more like this is how it's going to moving forward.
  • ConorKavanaghConorKavanagh Ireland Posts: 1,148
    Most people who I have talked to at their shows haven't seen more than 3 performances by them. We're in a bit of an echo chamber on this forum.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,459
    Most people who I have talked to at their shows haven't seen more than 3 performances by them. We're in a bit of an echo chamber on this forum.
    Not in my experience but then again I’m on the east coast and have the misfortune of these shows being destination shows for fans. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,352
    They haven't been to Indy in 12 years. I'm guessing they would have a greatest hits setlist on their next visit.

    Fucking Dave Matthews is here Fri/Sat this week.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,354
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,352
    CO278952 said:
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
    Right....the surprise has been that the non festival setlists are the same length and songs
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,459
    CO278952 said:
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
    Right....the surprise has been that the non festival setlists are the same length and songs
    And even more surprising is the lack of variety. Yes they switch it up, but they’re not digging deep at all and are ignoring multiple albums. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,950
    I get ignoring multiple albums because at some point you have too many albums to hit them all when playing a typical 22 song setlist.  If they followed the same setlist every night there would be no chance of hitting all the albums.  
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,352
    edited June 2022
    nicknyr15 said:
    CO278952 said:
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
    Right....the surprise has been that the non festival setlists are the same length and songs
    And even more surprising is the lack of variety. Yes they switch it up, but they’re not digging deep at all and are ignoring multiple albums. 
    Ignoring Binaural and RA has been the case for several years....but yeah the lack of variety is disappointing. And again....I'm ok with shorter setlists but dump the covers and give us variety. If the idea of the standard setlist is to appease the non die hard fans then a good compromise would be to play Rival and Cropduster over Throw your Hatred Down and I Believe in Miracles.  The NDH fans don't want to hear the covers either.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,459
    nicknyr15 said:
    CO278952 said:
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
    Right....the surprise has been that the non festival setlists are the same length and songs
    And even more surprising is the lack of variety. Yes they switch it up, but they’re not digging deep at all and are ignoring multiple albums. 
    Ignoring Binaural and RA has been the case for several years....but yeah the lack of variety is disappointing. And again....I'm ok with shorter setlists but dump the covers and give us variety. If the idea of the standard setlist is to appease the non die hard fans then a good compromise would be to play Rival and Cropduster over Throw your Hatred Down and I Believe in Miracles.  The NDH fans don't want to hear the covers either.
    100%
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,950
    nicknyr15 said:
    CO278952 said:
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
    Right....the surprise has been that the non festival setlists are the same length and songs
    And even more surprising is the lack of variety. Yes they switch it up, but they’re not digging deep at all and are ignoring multiple albums. 
    Ignoring Binaural and RA has been the case for several years....but yeah the lack of variety is disappointing. And again....I'm ok with shorter setlists but dump the covers and give us variety. If the idea of the standard setlist is to appease the non die hard fans then a good compromise would be to play Rival and Cropduster over Throw your Hatred Down and I Believe in Miracles.  The NDH fans don't want to hear the covers either.
    Makes a lot of sense.
  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,431
    edited June 2022
    Did Ed also talk for 20 minutes at this show? US shows were getting near 30 minutes of the set wasted with pointless banter about someone who passed away or some actor friend. 

    Because that means it's more like 1.5 hours of music. Which is just a tough pill to swallow

    I like stories about songs or his rants on war/politics but it's moved to just small talk. Might as well talk about the weather.
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,864
    edited June 2022
    nicknyr15 said:
    CO278952 said:
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
    Right....the surprise has been that the non festival setlists are the same length and songs
    And even more surprising is the lack of variety. Yes they switch it up, but they’re not digging deep at all and are ignoring multiple albums. 
    Ignoring Binaural and RA has been the case for several years....but yeah the lack of variety is disappointing. And again....I'm ok with shorter setlists but dump the covers and give us variety. If the idea of the standard setlist is to appease the non die hard fans then a good compromise would be to play Rival and Cropduster over Throw your Hatred Down and I Believe in Miracles.  The NDH fans don't want to hear the covers either.
    I'm not even talking about Deep cuts when I talk about variety.  There are songs that were previous singles/radio releases that have completely disappeared. 

    How many combined appearances have we seen of Hail Hail, WWS, Life Wasted, Breakerfall, Grievance, The Fixer, In Hiding, I Am Mine, I could go on and on.....

    The deep cuts thing doesn't bother me a whole lot, but there are just so many classic but also popular PJ songs that have seemingly disappeared, and that's what I think many of us also mean when we discuss a lack of variety.  
    Post edited by Weston1283 on
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,528
    nicknyr15 said:
    CO278952 said:
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
    Right....the surprise has been that the non festival setlists are the same length and songs
    And even more surprising is the lack of variety. Yes they switch it up, but they’re not digging deep at all and are ignoring multiple albums. 
    Ignoring Binaural and RA has been the case for several years....but yeah the lack of variety is disappointing. And again....I'm ok with shorter setlists but dump the covers and give us variety. If the idea of the standard setlist is to appease the non die hard fans then a good compromise would be to play Rival and Cropduster over Throw your Hatred Down and I Believe in Miracles.  The NDH fans don't want to hear the covers either.
    100% agree.  Well said.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,352
    nicknyr15 said:
    CO278952 said:
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
    Right....the surprise has been that the non festival setlists are the same length and songs
    And even more surprising is the lack of variety. Yes they switch it up, but they’re not digging deep at all and are ignoring multiple albums. 
    Ignoring Binaural and RA has been the case for several years....but yeah the lack of variety is disappointing. And again....I'm ok with shorter setlists but dump the covers and give us variety. If the idea of the standard setlist is to appease the non die hard fans then a good compromise would be to play Rival and Cropduster over Throw your Hatred Down and I Believe in Miracles.  The NDH fans don't want to hear the covers either.
    I'm not even talking about Deep cuts when I talk about variety.  There are songs that were previous singles/radio releases that have completely disappeared. 

    How many combined appearances have we seen of Hail Hail, WWS, Life Wasted, Breakerfall, Grievance, The Fixer, In Hiding, I Am Mine, I could go on and on.....

    The deep cuts thing doesn't bother me a whole lot, but there are just so many classic but also popular PJ songs that have seemingly disappeared, and that's what I think many of us also mean when we discuss a lack of variety.  
    holy shit I forgot about In Hiding....great fucking song that they haven't played for FOUR YEARS
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,459
    nicknyr15 said:
    CO278952 said:
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
    Right....the surprise has been that the non festival setlists are the same length and songs
    And even more surprising is the lack of variety. Yes they switch it up, but they’re not digging deep at all and are ignoring multiple albums. 
    Ignoring Binaural and RA has been the case for several years....but yeah the lack of variety is disappointing. And again....I'm ok with shorter setlists but dump the covers and give us variety. If the idea of the standard setlist is to appease the non die hard fans then a good compromise would be to play Rival and Cropduster over Throw your Hatred Down and I Believe in Miracles.  The NDH fans don't want to hear the covers either.
    I'm not even talking about Deep cuts when I talk about variety.  There are songs that were previous singles/radio releases that have completely disappeared. 

    How many combined appearances have we seen of Hail Hail, WWS, Life Wasted, Breakerfall, Grievance, The Fixer, In Hiding, I Am Mine, I could go on and on.....

    The deep cuts thing doesn't bother me a whole lot, but there are just so many classic but also popular PJ songs that have seemingly disappeared, and that's what I think many of us also mean when we discuss a lack of variety.  
    holy shit I forgot about In Hiding....great fucking song that they haven't played for FOUR YEARS
    Inexcusable 
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,950
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    CO278952 said:
    Their festival sets have traditionally been shorter so no surprise there. 
    Right....the surprise has been that the non festival setlists are the same length and songs
    And even more surprising is the lack of variety. Yes they switch it up, but they’re not digging deep at all and are ignoring multiple albums. 
    Ignoring Binaural and RA has been the case for several years....but yeah the lack of variety is disappointing. And again....I'm ok with shorter setlists but dump the covers and give us variety. If the idea of the standard setlist is to appease the non die hard fans then a good compromise would be to play Rival and Cropduster over Throw your Hatred Down and I Believe in Miracles.  The NDH fans don't want to hear the covers either.
    I'm not even talking about Deep cuts when I talk about variety.  There are songs that were previous singles/radio releases that have completely disappeared. 

    How many combined appearances have we seen of Hail Hail, WWS, Life Wasted, Breakerfall, Grievance, The Fixer, In Hiding, I Am Mine, I could go on and on.....

    The deep cuts thing doesn't bother me a whole lot, but there are just so many classic but also popular PJ songs that have seemingly disappeared, and that's what I think many of us also mean when we discuss a lack of variety.  
    holy shit I forgot about In Hiding....great fucking song that they haven't played for FOUR YEARS
    Inexcusable 
    Scratched in Phoenix this year for Black...

  • DiscopijDiscopij Posts: 479
    For all the people in the past complaining about having too many stadium shows vs. smaller venues, this is a consequence ... Ed always talked about how stadium shows with no opener put more pressure on them to do bigger/crazier sets.  Maybe this could still happen if they go back to stadiums next year.
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,459
    Discopij said:
    For all the people in the past complaining about having too many stadium shows vs. smaller venues, this is a consequence ... Ed always talked about how stadium shows with no opener put more pressure on them to do bigger/crazier sets.  Maybe this could still happen if they go back to stadiums next year.
    Makes no sense. 2013? 2014? 2016? Stadiums vs arenas has nothing to do with these sets. 
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,438
    nicknyr15 said:
    Discopij said:
    For all the people in the past complaining about having too many stadium shows vs. smaller venues, this is a consequence ... Ed always talked about how stadium shows with no opener put more pressure on them to do bigger/crazier sets.  Maybe this could still happen if they go back to stadiums next year.
    Makes no sense. 2013? 2014? 2016? Stadiums vs arenas has nothing to do with these sets. 
    The amount of reasons I have heard for the reasoning of these shorter sets is amazing to me. 

  • RyanRyan Posts: 1,120
    I’d guess there are a few things at play regarding the shorter sets.  Ed seemed to struggle the first few shows in 2018, London 2 had to get postponed, and I thought he was pretty rough the remainder of the tour.  3.5 years off, and older likely has something to do with it, along with a relatively busy itinerary.
    It should be noted as well that the 2018 shows were shorter as a whole than the 2016 shows, and many of the 2016 shows were shorter than the 2013/2014 shows.  
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,528
    PJNB said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Discopij said:
    For all the people in the past complaining about having too many stadium shows vs. smaller venues, this is a consequence ... Ed always talked about how stadium shows with no opener put more pressure on them to do bigger/crazier sets.  Maybe this could still happen if they go back to stadiums next year.
    Makes no sense. 2013? 2014? 2016? Stadiums vs arenas has nothing to do with these sets. 
    The amount of reasons I have heard for the reasoning of these shorter sets is amazing to me. 

    I heard it's because the stage lights are too bright for ed and they are affecting his vision.  ed is pretty stubborn and he refuses to wear glasses like bono has.  again just what I heard.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • ddeschlerddeschler Posts: 659
    Did Ed also talk for 20 minutes at this show? US shows were getting near 30 minutes of the set wasted with pointless banter about someone who passed away or some actor friend. 
    You don't want to hear 5 minutes on what a great guy Bill Murray is (and how those allegations can't be true)?
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
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