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  • I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
  • HaijayHaijay Posts: 384
    Couldn’t agree more…….
  • I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    I would imagine that’s because it’s an easier ticket to get. Takes the stress out of hoping you score high-demand MSG or Philly tickets in the lottery.

  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 Posts: 1,428
    edited November 2022
    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    In other news, we could only dream of something like what metallica just put out there. No repeat songs with Fri/Sun gigs only at stadiums in some of the bigger cities. Could actually hit the whole tour!
    Post edited by jimjam1982 on
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,572
    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    I prefer Arena shows.  I've grown a little weary of stadium shows.  That being said, I also remember the clusterfuck of trying to get tickets to Seattle shows  when they play the Arena.  2013 sold out in a second (albeit for some reason they didn't do a 2nd show).  I know it's their home market, but it's 1 of the two big cities that are in reasonable travel distance to me (Vancouver and Seattle).  It's either play a stadium, or play the Arena and hope to god you get lucky and score tickets.

    I would think Chicago and New York would have similar issues.  Play MSG or United Centre in cities of 10 million, with even more big cities in travel distance.   It's going to be insanely hard to get tickets.

    I guess they could do what Foo Fighters did when I saw them in 2018.  They played the baseball park in Seattle, but played the Arena in Vancouver.  Sort of played to the size of the market kind of thing.

  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848
    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    In other news, we could only dream of something like what metallica just put out there. No repeat songs with Fri/Sun gigs only at stadiums in some of the bigger cities. Could actually hit the whole tour!
    Taylor Swift did a similar thing, large stadiums only Friday - Sunday’s with 1-2 thursdays mixed in.  One city a week.  Wonder if this will become
    a new trend for the larger acts, and i’m here for it.
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    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,267
    I'd be fine with a mixture of stadiums & arenas depending on each market. 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,429
    The only ballpark I’d like to happen is Camden yards! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,952
    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    In other news, we could only dream of something like what metallica just put out there. No repeat songs with Fri/Sun gigs only at stadiums in some of the bigger cities. Could actually hit the whole tour!
    Metallica is offering an 'I Disappear' ticket option that gains GA access to every show sans festivals. Cool idea for fans that have the time, energy and resources to chase them across a continent! Btw, just me or is that Kirk Hammett's little brother in the picture, haha?




  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848
    jjflash said:
    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    In other news, we could only dream of something like what metallica just put out there. No repeat songs with Fri/Sun gigs only at stadiums in some of the bigger cities. Could actually hit the whole tour!
    Metallica is offering an 'I Disappear' ticket option that gains GA access to every show sans festivals. Cool idea for fans that have the time, energy and resources to chase them across a continent! Btw, just me or is that Kirk Hammett's little brother in the picture, haha?




    Great deal.  $998 for 10 shows is an amazing deal in todays climate.  I think it’s awesome they’re offering this.
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,267
    I'm curious as to how many of those "I Disappear" tickets they will sell. 
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  • yosiyosi Posts: 3,019
    jjflash said:
    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    In other news, we could only dream of something like what metallica just put out there. No repeat songs with Fri/Sun gigs only at stadiums in some of the bigger cities. Could actually hit the whole tour!
    Metallica is offering an 'I Disappear' ticket option that gains GA access to every show sans festivals. Cool idea for fans that have the time, energy and resources to chase them across a continent! Btw, just me or is that Kirk Hammett's little brother in the picture, haha?




    Great deal.  $998 for 10 shows is an amazing deal in todays climate.  I think it’s awesome they’re offering this.
    Had the same thought. It might be worth the money even if you can only hit 5-6 shows. 
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane

  • I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    Pretty big assumption that they will continue 3 hour shows in stadiums, no? I'd bet good money that 2:15 is the new normal regardless of venue, with the occasional blow-out for a special occasion

  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited November 2022
    PJ can play where they want. I’ll decide if I want to go or not. Besides, I’ve seen some legendary shows in stadiums and city/state park venues
  • My MSG source says he doesn’t see anything “definitive” for 2023. Brooklyn????
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,267
    I doubt they hit any venues that they played during this past year. 
    "I got memories, I got shit"

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  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 Posts: 1,428
    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    Pretty big assumption that they will continue 3 hour shows in stadiums, no? I'd bet good money that 2:15 is the new normal regardless of venue, with the occasional blow-out for a special occasion

    Yes, it is quite an assumption.  Obviously if stadiums were the same 2 hour 15min then sure, preference nod goes to arenas and sheds.
  • It would be a bummer if they hit the same venues as 2022 and continued to ignore a bunch of markets that haven't had shows in many years.
  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 523
    My MSG source says he doesn’t see anything “definitive” for 2023. Brooklyn????
    Citi Field/Yankee Stadium?

    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    Pretty big assumption that they will continue 3 hour shows in stadiums, no? I'd bet good money that 2:15 is the new normal regardless of venue, with the occasional blow-out for a special occasion

    The thing is we probably won’t know until they happen. If they announce a mix of arenas/stadiums would they clearly state the stadium shows will be longer? 
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848
    uglybabo said:
    My MSG source says he doesn’t see anything “definitive” for 2023. Brooklyn????
    Citi Field/Yankee Stadium?

    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    Pretty big assumption that they will continue 3 hour shows in stadiums, no? I'd bet good money that 2:15 is the new normal regardless of venue, with the occasional blow-out for a special occasion

    The thing is we probably won’t know until they happen. If they announce a mix of arenas/stadiums would they clearly state the stadium shows will be longer? 
    Have to think Citi field is in the mix..... maybe even MetLife if they get a good opener
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • It would be a bummer if they hit the same venues as 2022 and continued to ignore a bunch of markets that haven't had shows in many years.
    I’m sure there will be some variety if there’s anything at all, but it would be perfectly fine with me if they played the same venues.  Play anywhere.  Just play somewhere.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,929
    The only ballpark I’d like to happen is Camden yards! 
    ^^^.
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  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,267
    My MSG source says he doesn’t see anything “definitive” for 2023. Brooklyn????
    MSG is Harry's House now. 
    "I got memories, I got shit"

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  • MSG is Harry's House now. 
    Nah msg is Phish turf. We take it over like no other. 🤪
  • Douglas12373Douglas12373 Posts: 266
    edited December 2022

    MSG is Harry's House now. 
    Nah msg is Phish turf. We take it over like no other. 🤪

    See you in three weeks!
  • treestrees Posts: 1,868
    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    In other news, we could only dream of something like what metallica just put out there. No repeat songs with Fri/Sun gigs only at stadiums in some of the bigger cities. Could actually hit the whole tour!
    Metallica knows how to put a tour together  so does PJ but this new Metallica tour with 2nights no repeat is so neat 


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  • When I go to Stub Hub and search "Pearl Jam" it brings me to ACL in October.  Weird.
  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,887
    edited December 2022
    trees said:
    I'll never understand why some folks WISH for stadium shows when PJ can comfortably play arenas in every market
    An evening with and a 3 hour set > the 2h 15m new age arena sets with openers.  I have seen their faces before. Halfway up first base or third base side is adequate!

    In other news, we could only dream of something like what metallica just put out there. No repeat songs with Fri/Sun gigs only at stadiums in some of the bigger cities. Could actually hit the whole tour!
    Metallica knows how to put a tour together  so does PJ but this new Metallica tour with 2nights no repeat is so neat 

    Watch the joke be on the fans. The first night is gonna include I Disappear and St. Anger. The second night will be the 80s stuff.

    Now that I think about it, "two nights no repeat" and they didn't say anything about repeating setlists in different cities. We assume it'll be a Grateful Dead or PJ type thing where the band thinks up the setlist 4-5 hours before the show, but that's an assumption...as is the below:

    Example:
    They have 4-6 setlists.

    City 1 gets Shows A and B.
    City 2 gets Shows C and D.
    City 3 gets Shows E and F.
    City 4 gets Shows A and B, repeating the cycle or maybe they decide to get random and go C and E.
    City 5 could then get Show B and C.

    Each year gets different setlists. Example: 2023 Show A could be entirely different from 2024 Show A.

    IMO, multiple carbon-copy setlists falls within the "no repeat weekend" commitment.
    Post edited by Lost In Ohio on
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  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 905
    When I go to Stub Hub and search "Pearl Jam" it brings me to ACL in October.  Weird.
    Yup ;)
  • When I go to Stub Hub and search "Pearl Jam" it brings me to ACL in October.  Weird.
    Stub Hub had the same thing earlier this year for this year’s ACL.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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