These are all for face value. No one is making any money here.
We don't know that. The law dictates what is required at the time of sale. The determination of of what money was "made" is done when taxes are filed. These rules were passed by Congress last year.
Soooo. Do we believe TM will do the math and realize i had ZERO capital gains? I bought and sold a bunch of tix....But made nothing...So it would be great if i dont receive a 1099 for that NON- income!
Does anyone think that what is happening on Ticketmaster with ticket prices dropping 48-72 hours ahead of the show will happen with MSG on Stubhub? Cheapest GA tix are already down almost $1000 from 2 weeks ago. Tons of GA posted. Is anyone really gonna pay $7500?
These are all for face value. No one is making any money here.
We don't know that. The law dictates what is required at the time of sale. The determination of of what money was "made" is done when taxes are filed. These rules were passed by Congress last year.
Soooo. Do we believe TM will do the math and realize i had ZERO capital gains? I bought and sold like 10 tix.... If i get a 1099 for like 1.5k it would just kind of suck... since clearly, its not income...
Bingo. A 1099 has no cost basis. Only proceeds. TM will not be doing any math. None of the 3rd parties will.
I listed and sold PJam tickets for May earlier this year with no issues. I am trying to list a single for Hamilton and a pair for Toronto and am extremely frustrated. I have tried on my cell phone (the TM app) and on a desktop (the TM website) without success. I even put in my tax info. Still no luck. Should I try the TM website on my cell phone? It claims that the bank account info I entered is incorrect even though I know it is correct because I have my checkbook right here and entered the numbers from there.
Any advice would be most appreciated. If I can't list these tickets I will be forced to eat them as I am not going to Canada this time.
I tried the TM website on my cell phone and that didn't work either. I have full bars so that is not the problem.
Don’t use the app, depending on where u are use the website Ticketmaster.com or Ticketmaster.ca
"This melody, inside of me, still searches for a solution."
I am curious - if you are trying to upgrade your tickets and you already have tickets through the fan club, can you purchase these new tickets while still having the original 10C tickets? I hope my question makes sense.
I am curious - if you are trying to upgrade your tickets and you already have tickets through the fan club, can you purchase these new tickets while still having the original 10C tickets? I hope my question makes sense.
Yes you can. As long as you never had more than 4 tickets to a single show at the same time, you're fine. I have 10C seats for Toronto and Hamilton. I just bought a better pair for each, and then listed my original 10C tickets right after. Easy peasy.
1998: Barrie 2000: Toronto 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Toronto 2006: Toronto 1&2, Paris, Milan, Torino, Pistoia 2009: Calgary, Vancouver 2011: Canada 2013: London, Wrigley, Philly 1&2 2014: St. Louis, ACL 1, Detroit 2016: Lexington, Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto 1&2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 1&2 2017: EV - Louisville 2018: London1&2, Milan, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 1&2, Fenway 1&2 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Hamilton2021: London 1&22022: Hamilton, Toronto 2023: Chicago 1&2, Noblesville2024: Seattle 1&2, Noblesville, Wrigley 1&2
I am curious - if you are trying to upgrade your tickets and you already have tickets through the fan club, can you purchase these new tickets while still having the original 10C tickets? I hope my question makes sense.
Yes you can. As long as you never had more than 4 tickets to a single show at the same time, you're fine. I have 10C seats for Toronto and Hamilton. I just bought a better pair for each, and then listed my original 10C tickets right after. Easy peasy.
You can have had more than 4 tickets to a show at one time too. I believe the limit for active tickets are 2 10C and 4 F2F
I am curious - if you are trying to upgrade your tickets and you already have tickets through the fan club, can you purchase these new tickets while still having the original 10C tickets? I hope my question makes sense.
Yes you can. As long as you never had more than 4 tickets to a single show at the same time, you're fine. I have 10C seats for Toronto and Hamilton. I just bought a better pair for each, and then listed my original 10C tickets right after. Easy peasy.
You can have had more than 4 tickets to a show at one time too. I believe the limit for active tickets are 2 10C and 4 F2F
Now that is good to know!! Thank you
1998: Barrie 2000: Toronto 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Toronto 2006: Toronto 1&2, Paris, Milan, Torino, Pistoia 2009: Calgary, Vancouver 2011: Canada 2013: London, Wrigley, Philly 1&2 2014: St. Louis, ACL 1, Detroit 2016: Lexington, Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto 1&2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 1&2 2017: EV - Louisville 2018: London1&2, Milan, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 1&2, Fenway 1&2 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Hamilton2021: London 1&22022: Hamilton, Toronto 2023: Chicago 1&2, Noblesville2024: Seattle 1&2, Noblesville, Wrigley 1&2
So I have two active tickets for 10C. If I stumble across GA for the same show, I can purchase these with the 2 10C in my wallet because this would be a F2F purchase? (I am seriously the people in the Progressive commercials.)
So I have two active tickets for 10C. If I stumble across GA for the same show, I can purchase these with the 2 10C in my wallet because this would be a F2F purchase? (I am seriously the people in the Progressive commercials.)
For sure, and then you can just list your 10c pair on F2F
So I have two active tickets for 10C. If I stumble across GA for the same show, I can purchase these with the 2 10C in my wallet because this would be a F2F purchase? (I am seriously the people in the Progressive commercials.)
For sure, and then you can just list your 10c pair on F2F
Got it! Thank you! I need things explained like I am a 5-year-old.
So I have two active tickets for 10C. If I stumble across GA for the same show, I can purchase these with the 2 10C in my wallet because this would be a F2F purchase? (I am seriously the people in the Progressive commercials.)
For sure, and then you can just list your 10c pair on F2F
Got it! Thank you! I need things explained like I am a 5-year-old.
You're definitely smart for asking. There'd be nothing worse than getting stuck with more tickets than you want and not being able to re-sell. Good luck with upgrading or getting that extra pair!
1998: Barrie 2000: Toronto 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Toronto 2006: Toronto 1&2, Paris, Milan, Torino, Pistoia 2009: Calgary, Vancouver 2011: Canada 2013: London, Wrigley, Philly 1&2 2014: St. Louis, ACL 1, Detroit 2016: Lexington, Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto 1&2, Fenway 1&2, Wrigley 1&2 2017: EV - Louisville 2018: London1&2, Milan, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 1&2, Fenway 1&2 2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Hamilton2021: London 1&22022: Hamilton, Toronto 2023: Chicago 1&2, Noblesville2024: Seattle 1&2, Noblesville, Wrigley 1&2
PSA: if a pair of Nash GA's open up for face, and you're going solo & youve got them dead to rights, lemme know & I'll split it with ya. Please & thank ya
If I end up getting a pair somehow you got the other single.
Hell yeah. Thank ye😎
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Does anyone think that what is happening on Ticketmaster with ticket prices dropping 48-72 hours ahead of the show will happen with MSG on Stubhub? Cheapest GA tix are already down almost $1000 from 2 weeks ago. Tons of GA posted. Is anyone really gonna pay $7500?
A guy can dream can't he...
So, the premium drops that happen on ticketmaster are only for tickets that were "Pearl Jam Premium" ever since they went on sale, and were not bought.
What usually happens is they drop down to standard on the day of show.
Since the tickets on StubHub are for Madison Square Garden and Denver we're already bought & are being resold, what will happen on the day of, is that people will start to panic, and then unload the tickets at a lower price. Sometimes, possibly, even for face. Just so they don't eat the cost.
So the key is patience, and a lot of luck.
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Does anyone think that what is happening on Ticketmaster with ticket prices dropping 48-72 hours ahead of the show will happen with MSG on Stubhub? Cheapest GA tix are already down almost $1000 from 2 weeks ago. Tons of GA posted. Is anyone really gonna pay $7500?
A guy can dream can't he...
So, the premium drops that happen on ticketmaster are only for tickets that were "Pearl Jam Premium" ever since they went on sale, and were not bought.
What usually happens is they drop down to standard on the day of show.
Since the tickets on StubHub are for Madison Square Garden and Denver we're already bought & are being resold, what will happen on the day of, is that people will start to panic, and then unload the tickets at a lower price. Sometimes, possibly, even for face. Just so they don't eat the cost.
So the key is patience, and a lot of luck.
Pearl Jam/TM's fan to fan was set up so that you could only re-sale the tickets for what you bought them for, which is great if you got them for face value. But if you bought them at premium prices, you can only sell them for the premium price, which I believe is an inherent flaw.
@SHZA made a good point, and said that if we have tickets that we just can't move (let's say, if we upgrade) we should be able to sell them at a lower price, and take the hit (rather than eating the whole cost). The current system on fan to fan doesn't allow for that, which is unfortunate.
Yet, I have seen some of these overpriced tickets move. I saw it for Ottawa, and now we're seeing it for Hamilton & others, so : shrug :
PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 &05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01& 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18& 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16& 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29& 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03& 09/04/24: MSG I & II
EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08 ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
Does anyone think that what is happening on Ticketmaster with ticket prices dropping 48-72 hours ahead of the show will happen with MSG on Stubhub? Cheapest GA tix are already down almost $1000 from 2 weeks ago. Tons of GA posted. Is anyone really gonna pay $7500?
A guy can dream can't he...
So, the premium drops that happen on ticketmaster are only for tickets that were "Pearl Jam Premium" ever since they went on sale, and were not bought.
What usually happens is they drop down to standard on the day of show.
Since the tickets on StubHub are for Madison Square Garden and Denver we're already bought & are being resold, what will happen on the day of, is that people will start to panic, and then unload the tickets at a lower price. Sometimes, possibly, even for face. Just so they don't eat the cost.
So the key is patience, and a lot of luck.
For MSG and Denver I’d say it depends if the sellers are private people whose plans changed or professional scalpers. I believe the pros will eat the cost rather than sell for a fair price, so that for future events the public doesn’t see a benefit to waiting it out. The scalpers are better scalpers than TM is in this regard.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
These are all for face value. No one is making any money here.
We don't know that. The law dictates what is required at the time of sale. The determination of of what money was "made" is done when taxes are filed. These rules were passed by Congress last year.
Soooo. Do we believe TM will do the math and realize i had ZERO capital gains? I bought and sold like 10 tix.... If i get a 1099 for like 1.5k it would just kind of suck... since clearly, its not income...
Bingo. A 1099 has no cost basis. Only proceeds. TM will not be doing any math. None of the 3rd parties will.
These are all for face value. No one is making any money here.
We don't know that. The law dictates what is required at the time of sale. The determination of of what money was "made" is done when taxes are filed. These rules were passed by Congress last year.
Soooo. Do we believe TM will do the math and realize i had ZERO capital gains? I bought and sold like 10 tix.... If i get a 1099 for like 1.5k it would just kind of suck... since clearly, its not income...
Bingo. A 1099 has no cost basis. Only proceeds. TM will not be doing any math. None of the 3rd parties will.
OMG!!! THANKS FOR THAT INFO!!!!!!
Yes, but you need to have proof of the cost basis. So save your receipt for the initial purchase on your hard drive, cloud etc.
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A guy can dream can't he...
Bingo. A 1099 has no cost basis. Only proceeds. TM will not be doing any math. None of the 3rd parties will.
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
What usually happens is they drop down to standard on the day of show.
Since the tickets on StubHub are for Madison Square Garden and Denver we're already bought & are being resold, what will happen on the day of, is that people will start to panic, and then unload the tickets at a lower price. Sometimes, possibly, even for face. Just so they don't eat the cost.
So the key is patience, and a lot of luck.
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
@SHZA made a good point, and said that if we have tickets that we just can't move (let's say, if we upgrade) we should be able to sell them at a lower price, and take the hit (rather than eating the whole cost). The current system on fan to fan doesn't allow for that, which is unfortunate.
Yet, I have seen some of these overpriced tickets move. I saw it for Ottawa, and now we're seeing it for Hamilton & others, so : shrug :
Song Wishlist: Oceans, Brother, Alone, Let Me Sleep, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Gremmie Out Of Control, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Amongst the Waves, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, Got to Give, and the Mamasan Trilogy.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Yes, but you need to have proof of the cost basis. So save your receipt for the initial purchase on your hard drive, cloud etc.