For the first time since 1998...Tickets Unfulfilled?

I have been sitting on this since last Thursday when the confirmation emails went out. Not complaining here but want to get some perspective from other longtime members.

I have been in the Ten Club since 1996 and have been getting tickets to shows through the fan club since the 1998 tour. To not get tickets was very unexpected after 25 years of paying premium membership fees after they decided to offer two price brackets, religiously supporting them by purchasing as many tickets to shows that I could afford, and I have also stuck with them through the changes that have not been the greatest in comparison to fan club benefits offered in the past.

I understand that getting tickets to shows is not guaranteed but after being a member for over two decades I am very displeased that even after providing 3 show date options with two ticket options for each show I would be happy purchasing, to not get tickets to one of the 3 shows just feels like a disservice. That essentially means my seniority meant nothing in a situation where there was 3 chances to get a pair of tickets and two chances per show which should have even more increased the size of the pool I was grouped into. If I only put in for one show I would understand that I was entering into a lottery with very limited options.

I sent a note through the "Contact Us" option on the website to get some kind of answer on the expectations longtime fans should have as this club progresses more and more to being ran like a corporate entity, by making partnerships for online fan club ticket allocation through the machine that is TM. If seniority in the club no longer increases our chances of getting picked to just have the opportunity to purchase tickets I would like to know. If that is the case and with them also removing the Analog member benefit of receiving an annual 45 fan club single, to me there isn't much of a benefit in continuing to be a member.

I'm just disappointed, understand it happens, but also want to know who all is in this same group. Again getting perspective so I can make a decision on how to carry on as a fan of this band. Stay in the club, keep buying every release they put out even if a bit subpar, or just close this chapter of my life? I've got a fucking tattoo of the band, soo...part of my body is invested for life LOL!
1998 - St. Louis
2000 - St. Louis
2003 - West Palm Beach, St. Louis, Champaign, Bonner Springs, and East Troy
2004 - St. Louis, Asheville, and Kissimmee
2005 - Kitchener and London, Ontario
2006 - Chicago Night 1, Cincinnati, and St. Paul Night 1
2007 - Lollapalooza
2010 - St. Louis and Noblesville
2011 - East Troy PJ20 Night 1 and Night 2
2013 - Wrigley and Oklahoma City
2014 - St. Louis and Memphis
2016 - Lexington
2018 - Wrigley Night 1 

"I know I was born and I know that I'll die...the in between is mine"
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,541
    I have been sitting on this since last Thursday when the confirmation emails went out. Not complaining here but want to get some perspective from other longtime members.

    I have been in the Ten Club since 1996 and have been getting tickets to shows through the fan club since the 1998 tour. To not get tickets was very unexpected after 25 years of paying premium membership fees after they decided to offer two price brackets, religiously supporting them by purchasing as many tickets to shows that I could afford, and I have also stuck with them through the changes that have not been the greatest in comparison to fan club benefits offered in the past.

    I understand that getting tickets to shows is not guaranteed but after being a member for over two decades I am very displeased that even after providing 3 show date options with two ticket options for each show I would be happy purchasing, to not get tickets to one of the 3 shows just feels like a disservice. That essentially means my seniority meant nothing in a situation where there was 3 chances to get a pair of tickets and two chances per show which should have even more increased the size of the pool I was grouped into. If I only put in for one show I would understand that I was entering into a lottery with very limited options.

    I sent a note through the "Contact Us" option on the website to get some kind of answer on the expectations longtime fans should have as this club progresses more and more to being ran like a corporate entity, by making partnerships for online fan club ticket allocation through the machine that is TM. If seniority in the club no longer increases our chances of getting picked to just have the opportunity to purchase tickets I would like to know. If that is the case and with them also removing the Analog member benefit of receiving an annual 45 fan club single, to me there isn't much of a benefit in continuing to be a member.

    I'm just disappointed, understand it happens, but also want to know who all is in this same group. Again getting perspective so I can make a decision on how to carry on as a fan of this band. Stay in the club, keep buying every release they put out even if a bit subpar, or just close this chapter of my life? I've got a fucking tattoo of the band, soo...part of my body is invested for life LOL!
    Since they went to the lottery the seniority has in no way impacted whether you get tickets or not. Only seat location for reserved seating
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,410
    edited March 2022
    What shows did you put in for? Remember the rescheduled dates were already sold in 2020 and a number of folks held on to tickets - supplies were limited.

    Seniority does not increase chances of being selected for tickets. And analog doesn’t either - analog gets you annual merch like a t-shirt and maybe a bootleg. If you’re here for the tickets switch to digital.
    Post edited by OceansJenny on
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    edited March 2022
    Seniority can only get you so much. It never helped with your chance of getting picked. Only helps where you are located for reserved seating. This is a very fair process as it stands. 
    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • fall by the wayside
    fall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 759
    Seniority. Has. Never. Mattered. For. Access. To. Tickets.
    9/13/98, 10/4/00, 4/29/03, 6/29/03, 7/2/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 9/15/05, 9/16/05, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 9/11/11, 9/12/11, 10/19/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 10/25/13, 10/27/13, 9/26/15, 4/28/16, 4/29/16, 8/5/16, 8/7/16, 8/13/18, 9/2/18, 9/4/18, 9/26/21, 9/1/22, 9/2/22, 9/14/22, 9/18/23, 9/19/23, 9/7/24, 9/9/24, 9/12/24, 9/15/24, 9/17/24, 5/16/25, 5/18/25
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    I've been a member since 1995 and this is the best I have done ever in getting tickets to shows via the club other than 2003 and 2005.

    I think that you are likely in the grouping that either A. did not read the email and accidentally only signed up for Verfied Fan or B. submitted for lottery shows that were already sold out with minimal tickets back in circulation.

    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    edited March 2022
    PB11041 said:
    I've been a member since 1995 and this is the best I have done ever in getting tickets to shows via the club other than 2003 and 2005.

    I think that you are likely in the grouping that either A. did not read the email and accidentally only signed up for Verfied Fan or B. submitted for lottery shows that were already sold out with minimal tickets back in circulation.


    C. Only selected GA for rescheduled shows with minimal tickets.

    EDIT: re-read the post, and saw that he selected 2 options, so I guess not.
    Post edited by mpedone on
    "I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."

    Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24

    "He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
    He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
  • mattcoz
    mattcoz Chicago Posts: 2,243
    They have made it clear that seniority does not factor into your chances of being selected. They have never hidden this fact. This was not a normal lottery, the tickets were extremely limited.
    1998: East Troy 2000: East Troy, Rosemont 2003: Champaign 2006: Chicago (UC), Milwaukee 2007: Chicago (Lolla) 2009: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2010: Noblesville 2011: East Troy (PJ20), East Troy (PJ20) 2013: Chicago (WF), Seattle 2014: St. Louis 2016: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2018: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2022: St. Louis 2023: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2024: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF)
    2025: Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,547
    I hope you included the fact you have the tattoo in your email, that would really improve you chances for next time.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    There are so many members that don't have streaks stretching back to 1998. 
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • rberko1
    rberko1 Posts: 95
    FWIW, I've been in the Ten Club since 1996 (158xxx), and have only ONCE been shut out on fan club/lottery tickets--and that was for the Temple of the Dog tour. I'm typically only looking for one show per tour, and I'm not picky about GA versus seats. I'm aware that I've been extraordinarily lucky, but I've never felt that membership wasn't worth it.
    09.24.96 - Columbia, MD / 09.18.98 - Columbia, MD / 09.04.00 - Columbia, MD / 07.01.03 - Bristow, VA / 05.30.06 - Washington, DC / 06.15.09 - Baltimore, MD (Ed solo) / 10.27.09 - Philadelphia, PA / 10.28.09 - Philadelphia, PA / 10.09.10 - Baltimore, MD (Brad) / 10.27.13 - Baltimore, MD / 04.29.16 - Philadelphia, PA / 08.07.16 - Boston, MA / 11.04.16 - Upper Darby, PA (Temple of the Dog) / 04.07.17 - Brooklyn, NY (Hall of Fame) / 09.04.18 - Boston, MA / 03.28.20 - Baltimore, MD / 09.18.21 - Asbury Park, NJ / 05.09.22 - Glendale, AZ / 09.14.22 - Camden, NJ / 09.04.24 - New York, NY / 09.07.24 - Philadelphia, PA / 09.09.24 - Philadelphia, PA / 09.12.24 - Baltimore, MD / 05.11.25 - Raleigh, NC / 05.13.25 - Raleigh, NC / Next tour in Seattle??
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    rberko1 said:
    FWIW, I've been in the Ten Club since 1996 (158xxx), and have only ONCE been shut out on fan club/lottery tickets--and that was for the Temple of the Dog tour. I'm typically only looking for one show per tour, and I'm not picky about GA versus seats. I'm aware that I've been extraordinarily lucky, but I've never felt that membership wasn't worth it.
    I mean $20 or $40 per year is nothing for the chance. Shit, I paid $100 for the year for the Thrice Alliance (fan club) and they don’t give you anything that much better than here. 
    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    Seniority. Has. Never. Mattered. For. Access. To. Tickets.

  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,623
    They should pin that ^ to the top of the forum and website. 
    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • Thanks for all the positive answers, always can count on this "community" for support and understanding. Pretty much what I felt the common response of what you guys call the "Faithful" would be. Peace

    1998 - St. Louis
    2000 - St. Louis
    2003 - West Palm Beach, St. Louis, Champaign, Bonner Springs, and East Troy
    2004 - St. Louis, Asheville, and Kissimmee
    2005 - Kitchener and London, Ontario
    2006 - Chicago Night 1, Cincinnati, and St. Paul Night 1
    2007 - Lollapalooza
    2010 - St. Louis and Noblesville
    2011 - East Troy PJ20 Night 1 and Night 2
    2013 - Wrigley and Oklahoma City
    2014 - St. Louis and Memphis
    2016 - Lexington
    2018 - Wrigley Night 1 

    "I know I was born and I know that I'll die...the in between is mine"
  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,900
    Seeing I had no issues with the mail-in orders and the F5 days, the lottery format pre-2020 was the first time I was denied 10c tickets. And for years I had to settle for 50% success and buying on resale sites or finding ticket buddies. But now, the larger reserved allotment since 2020 has me back to winning for all dates.

    The process has gotten more complicated, and you need to do your homework on the different presale options, but I'm happier with this format than the older lottery structure.
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,961
    It is amazing how many people say they’ve been a member for 20+ years and not understand that their seniority has nothing to do with being drawn for tickets. 
  • mrk2
    mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,093
    I guess you can still enjoy your original 2020 tickets.
    225xxx - 6/28/00, 10/20/01, 10/22/01, 9/11/06, 9/22/06, 9/23/06, 6/18/07, 6/26/07, 8/15/09, 6/25/10, 6/30/10, 7/4/12, 7/5/12, 7/7/12, 7/10/12, 6/26/14, 6/28/14, 7/3/18, 7/5/18
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    Thanks for all the positive answers, always can count on this "community" for support and understanding. Pretty much what I felt the common response of what you guys call the "Faithful" would be. Peace

    What shows did you put in for?
    "I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."

    Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24

    "He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
    He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,235
    to be fair id be pretty grateful for the bloody good run you've had up to now 

    anyone who wants to be at a show will be at that show....even when at MSG in 2016 - i saw countless people with spares available before the show.......like tons available. 

  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,332
    pdalowsky said:
    to be fair id be pretty grateful for the bloody good run you've had up to now 

    anyone who wants to be at a show will be at that show....even when at MSG in 2016 - i saw countless people with spares available before the show.......like tons available. 

    ^^^this.

    We’re part of an extremely generous fan community who look out for and take care of one another. You can easily attend any show you’d like on tour simply by searching here and reaching out.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2