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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    Global: MilitaryInfo (@Global_Mil_Info) Tweeted:
    According to U.S. officials to CNN:
     - Russia is suffering heavier losses in armor, aircraft & personnel than expected.
     - Ukrainian AD exceeding expectations.
     - Russia has not established air supremacy yet.
     - Russia has been unable to maintain sufficient supply lines.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,952
    edited February 2022
    Also, with Russia finally getting nixed within SWIFT (at least most banks) they're going to get desperate. That's a big fucking deal. Russia is going to ramp up the bombings. Just gotta hope the resupplies to the Ukees get there faster than the bombs.

    Keep coming back to the fact that this moron Putin will see this sanction as the equivalent as an act of war. I don't think there's no end to his escalation. He's been humiliated, so he'll keep digging the hole deeper.

  • Kramer was right. The Ukraine is weak and feeble. How the hell is it even possible that their capital city may "fall" by tonight? I understand Russia's army is twice as big....but still. 
    I take it back. 
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,952

    Kramer was right. The Ukraine is weak and feeble. How the hell is it even possible that their capital city may "fall" by tonight? I understand Russia's army is twice as big....but still. 
    I take it back. 
    Ukraine is game to you?!?! 
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,668
    Looks like putin could be ingesting some of those magic death beans soon.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,834
    edited February 2022

    Kramer was right. The Ukraine is weak and feeble. How the hell is it even possible that their capital city may "fall" by tonight? I understand Russia's army is twice as big....but still. 
    I take it back. 
    Ukraine is game to you?!?! 
    Edit:  I misunderstood. 

    Post edited by bootlegger10 on

  • Kramer was right. The Ukraine is weak and feeble. How the hell is it even possible that their capital city may "fall" by tonight? I understand Russia's army is twice as big....but still. 
    I take it back. 
    Ukraine is game to you?!?! 
    A game is throwing a ball into a hoop, kicking a ball into a net, getting the best five card hand, etc...

    I don't think admitting that your assumption based on an article was wrong is a game.  
    He’s doing a line from Seinfeld. 

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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,834

    Kramer was right. The Ukraine is weak and feeble. How the hell is it even possible that their capital city may "fall" by tonight? I understand Russia's army is twice as big....but still. 
    I take it back. 
    Ukraine is game to you?!?! 
    A game is throwing a ball into a hoop, kicking a ball into a net, getting the best five card hand, etc...

    I don't think admitting that your assumption based on an article was wrong is a game.  
    He’s doing a line from Seinfeld. 

    I see now.  
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,613
    edited February 2022
    I'm having to keep my thoughts and hopes in check today.  One thing to factor in is that this war is in its early stages.  Right now, with the huge international support for Ukraine, it feels like things are going badly for Putin, and in some ways they are and that gives me hope.  But I heard an interview with a retired U.S. general (and damn it, can't find the link) that we have only seen the first assault from Russia and that there will be more.  He said that there is a bit of a lull and this is the time to send in more arms for defense- anti tank, etc., and that doing this is very necessary to keep the momentum going. 
    If you saw this interview and can find it, please post it.  The world needs to keep up the support.  This thing is not nearly over.
    Sorry, I don't mean to be a downer, just want to be informed and honest.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,739

    Ukraine rejects Belarus as location for talks with Russia
    By YURAS KARMANAU, JIM HEINTZ, VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV and ZEKE MILLER
    12 mins ago

    KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukraine’s president says his country is ready for peace talks with Russia but not in Belarus, which was a staging ground for Moscow’s 3-day-old invasion.

    Speaking in a video message Sunday, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy named Warsaw, Bratislava, Istanbul, Budapest or Baku as alternative venues. He said other locations are also possible but made clear that Ukraine doesn’t accept Russia’s selection of Belarus.

    The Kremlin said Sunday that a Russian delegation had arrived in the Belarusian city of Homel for talks with Ukrainian officials. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the delegation includes military officials and diplomats.

    “The Russian delegation is ready for talks, and we are now waiting for the Ukrainians,” Peskov said.

    Russia invaded Ukraine on Thursday, with troops moving from Moscow’s ally Belarus in the north, and also from the east and south.

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.

    KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Street fighting broke out early Sunday in Kharkiv as Russian troops pushed into Ukraine’s second-largest city, according to a regional official, following a wave of attacks elsewhere targeting airfields and fuel facilities that appeared to mark a new phase of an invasion that has been slowed by fierce resistance.

    The U.S. and EU responded with weapons and ammunition for the outnumbered Ukrainians and powerful sanctions intended to further isolate Moscow.

    A family of 15 were forced out of their home on the outskirts of the Ukrainian city of Mariupol after it was badly damaged by shelling. (Feb. 26)

    Russian troops approached Kharkiv, about 20 kilometers (12.4 miles) south of the border with Russia, shortly after Moscow launched its invasion of Ukraine on Thursday. But until Sunday, they remained on the outskirts of the city of 1.4 million without trying to enter while other forces rolled past, pressing their offensive deeper into Ukraine.

    Early Sunday, Russian troops moved in and were engaged by Ukrainian forces, said Oleh Sinehubov, the head of the Kharkiv regional administration, who told civilians not to leave their homes. He gave no further details.

    Videos posted on Ukrainian media and social networks showed Russian vehicles moving across Kharkiv and a light vehicle burning on the street.

    Elsewhere, huge explosions lit up the sky early Sunday south of the capital, Kyiv, where people hunkered down in homes, underground garages and subway stations in anticipation of a full-scale assault by Russian forces.

    Flames billowed into the sky before dawn from an oil depot near an air base in Vasylkiv, where there has been intense fighting, according to the town’s mayor. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s office said another explosion was at the civilian Zhuliany airport.

    Zelenskyy’s office also said Russian forces blew up a gas pipeline in Kharkiv, prompting the government to warn people to protect themselves from the smoke by covering their windows with damp cloth or gauze.

    “We will fight for as long as needed to liberate our country,” Zelenskyy vowed.

    Terrified men, women and children sought safety inside and underground, and the government maintained a 39-hour curfew to keep people off the streets. More than 150,000 Ukrainians fled for Poland, Moldova and other neighboring countries, and the United Nations warned the number could grow to 4 million if fighting escalates.

    President Vladimir Putin hasn’t disclosed his ultimate plans, but Western officials believe he is determined to overthrow Ukraine’s government and replace it with a regime of his own, redrawing the map of Europe and reviving Moscow’s Cold War-era influence.

    To aid Ukraine’s ability to hold out, the U.S. pledged an additional $350 million in military assistance to Ukraine, including anti-tank weapons, body armor and small arms. Germany said it would send missiles and anti-tank weapons to the besieged country and that it would close its airspace to Russian planes.

    The U.S., European Union and United Kingdom agreed to block “selected” Russian banks from the SWIFT global financial messaging system, which moves money around more than 11,000 banks and other financial institutions worldwide, part of a new round of sanctions aiming to impose a severe cost on Moscow for the invasion. They also agreed to impose ”restrictive measures” on Russia’s central bank.

    Responding to a request from Ukraine’s minister of digital transformation, tech billionaire Elon Musk said on Twitter his satellite-based internet system Starlink was now active in Ukraine and that there were “more terminals en route.”

    It was unclear how much territory Russian forces had seized or to what extent their advance had been stalled. Britain’s Ministry of Defense said “the speed of the Russian advance has temporarily slowed likely as a result of acute logistical difficulties and strong Ukrainian resistance.”

    A senior U.S. defense official said more than half the Russian combat power that was massed along Ukraine’s borders had entered the country and Moscow has had to commit more fuel supply and other support units inside Ukraine than originally anticipated. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal U.S. assessments.

    The curfew forcing everyone in Kyiv inside was set to last through Monday morning. The relative quiet of the capital was sporadically broken by gunfire.

    Fighting on the city’s outskirts suggested that small Russian units were trying to clear a path for the main forces. Small groups of Russian troops were reported inside Kyiv, but Britain and the U.S. said the bulk of the forces were 19 miles (30 kilometers) from the city’s center as of Saturday afternoon.

    Russia claims its assault on Ukraine from the north, east and south is aimed only at military targets, but bridges, schools and residential neighborhoods have been hit.

    Ukraine’s health minister reported Saturday that 198 people, including three children, had been killed and more than 1,000 others wounded during Europe’s largest land war since World War II. It was unclear whether those figures included both military and civilian casualties.

    A missile struck a high-rise apartment building in Kyiv’s southwestern outskirts near one of the city’s two passenger airports, leaving a jagged hole of ravaged apartments over several floors. A rescue worker said six civilians were injured.

    Ukraine’s ambassador to the U.S., Oksana Markarova, said troops in Kyiv were fighting Russian “sabotage groups.” Ukraine says some 200 Russian soldiers have been captured and thousands killed.

    Markarova said Ukraine was gathering evidence of shelling of residential areas, kindergartens and hospitals to submit to The Hague as possible crimes against humanity.

    Zelenskyy reiterated his openness to talks with Russia in a video message, saying he welcomed an offer from Turkey and Azerbaijan to organize diplomatic efforts, which so far have faltered.

    The Kremlin confirmed a phone call between Putin and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev but gave no hint of restarting talks. A day earlier, Zelenskyy offered to negotiate a key Russian demand: abandoning ambitions of joining NATO.

    Putin sent troops into Ukraine after denying for weeks that he intended to do so, all the while building up a force of almost 200,000 troops along the countries’ borders. He claims the West has failed to take seriously Russia’s security concerns about NATO, the Western military alliance that Ukraine aspires to join. But he has also expressed scorn about Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state.

    In addition to Kyiv, the Russian assault appeared to focus on Ukraine’s economically vital coastal areas, from near the Black Sea port of Odesa in the west to beyond the Azov Sea port of Mariupol in the east.

    Ukrainian soldiers in Mariupol guarded bridges and blocked people from the shoreline amid concerns the Russian navy could launch an assault from the sea.

    “I don’t care anymore who wins and who doesn’t,” said Ruzanna Zubenko, whose large family was forced from their home outside Mariupol after it was badly damaged by shelling. “The only important thing is for our children to be able to grow up smiling and not crying.”

    Fighting also raged in two eastern territories controlled by pro-Russia separatists. Authorities in Donetsk said hot water supplies to the city of about 900,000 were suspended because of damage to the system by Ukrainian shelling.

    The U.S. and its allies have beefed up forces on NATO’s eastern flank but so far have ruled out deploying troops to fight Russia. Instead, the U.S., the European Union and other countries have slapped wide-ranging sanctions on Russia, freezing the assets of businesses and individuals including Putin and his foreign minister.

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    Isachenkov reported from Moscow, and Miller from Washington. Francesca Ebel, Josef Federman and Andrew Drake in Kyiv; Mstyslav Chernov and Nic Dumitrache in Mariupol, Ukraine; and other AP journalists from around the world contributed to this report.

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    Follow the AP’s coverage of the Ukraine crisis at https://apnews.com/hub/russia-ukraine



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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,739
    edited February 2022
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,089


    ''We thank all these many Greek friends who send messages of support and wishes to the Embassy for a quick victory against the neo-Nazi Ukrainians and the liberation of the country from the criminal regime.''


    we also thank you for your ''orthodox'' bombs, 10 Greeks dead..
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    23scidoo said:


    ''We thank all these many Greek friends who send messages of support and wishes to the Embassy for a quick victory against the neo-Nazi Ukrainians and the liberation of the country from the criminal regime.''


    we also thank you for your ''orthodox'' bombs, 10 Greeks dead..
    Yeah, Ukrainians are so tired of their neo nazi president (who happens to be Jewish), that citizens are fighting against the foreign liberators in the streets.  Makes perfect sense.  I remember all the footage of Parisian citizens fighting the Americans in 1945. This is like the same thing. 
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,952
    edited February 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:


    ''We thank all these many Greek friends who send messages of support and wishes to the Embassy for a quick victory against the neo-Nazi Ukrainians and the liberation of the country from the criminal regime.''


    we also thank you for your ''orthodox'' bombs, 10 Greeks dead..
    Yeah, Ukrainians are so tired of their neo nazi president (who happens to be Jewish), that citizens are fighting against the foreign liberators in the streets.  Makes perfect sense.  I remember all the footage of Parisian citizens fighting the Americans in 1945. This is like the same thing. 
    It's just amazing how similar the self projecting type of psychology is at play that is the same as the Trump/GOP approach. Did you catch his CPAC speech? Fucking shameful.

    Ukraine - like every other eastern European country - has to contend with it's neonazi history but this ain't it lol, especially when the president is Jewish. Russia is losing the public relations game and this is the best they can come up with haha

    This guy, again, is the best. We can only hope to have more public servants like him:



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    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,173
    https://twitter.com/christopherjm/status/1497937667144704002?s=21
    I hope he tells them to go fuck off! Don’t give Putin an inch..
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,952
    Exactly. You don't give a fucking millimeter when the aggressor has decided to invade you.

    Unfortunately, that's also why this dipshit's escalation will not stop. Can only hope that hitting them in the pocket book will be enough. Otherwise, standby for the two keys on WMDs.
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,097
    https://twitter.com/christopherjm/status/1497937667144704002?s=21
    I hope he tells them to go fuck off! Don’t give Putin an inch..
    To be honest, I hope Putin doesn't poison him again.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,952
    benjs said:
    https://twitter.com/christopherjm/status/1497937667144704002?s=21
    I hope he tells them to go fuck off! Don’t give Putin an inch..
    To be honest, I hope Putin doesn't poison him again.
    That wasn't Zelensky.
  • I cant see how this can  not end in some nuclear  weapon use
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,257
    Exactly. You don't give a fucking millimeter when the aggressor has decided to invade you.

    Unfortunately, that's also why this dipshit's escalation will not stop. Can only hope that hitting them in the pocket book will be enough. Otherwise, standby for the two keys on WMDs.
    Easy for us to say on the other side of the world. But when he’s facing an army 10 times his size, nuclear weapons, and almost no one really willing to help because he’s not part of NATO, I’m sure he’s willing to negotiate. 
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,097
    benjs said:
    https://twitter.com/christopherjm/status/1497937667144704002?s=21
    I hope he tells them to go fuck off! Don’t give Putin an inch..
    To be honest, I hope Putin doesn't poison him again.
    That wasn't Zelensky.
    Thanks for the correction :) My bad. In that case, I hope Putin doesn't poison him (for a first time)
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,257
    edited February 2022
    I cant see how this can  not end in some nuclear  weapon use
    I actually don’t think nuclear attacks are likely. If they were the only ones with nukes I’d say it’s almost for sure he’d use them. But he has to know he can’t use them without dire consequences, and he’s not the only one with them. Letting Russia go in and invade a non-NATO country while pretending we cant help because of some paperwork is one thing, allowing a dictator to nuke another country out of aggression is another.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Nuclear weapons are not going to be launched into Ukraine…


    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mace1229 said:
    I cant see how this can  not end in some nuclear  weapon use
    I actually don’t think nuclear attacks are likely. If they were the only ones with nukes I’d say it’s almost for sure he’d use them. But he has to know he can’t use them without dire consequences, and he’s not the only one with them. Letting Russia go in and invade a non-NATO country while pretending we cant help because of some paperwork is one thing, allowing a dictator to nuke another country out of aggression is another.
    Allowing? Too late once its done.
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  • Nuclear weapons are not going to be launched into Ukraine…


    Nobody said into Ukraine  more  likely  nearer to me.
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  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • This guy  is clearly  unhinged  and much like  old donny boy 
     Allowed in charge  of many bad weapons. And when these small men with small dicks  get angry you can all go down with them. How do you see this ending?
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